Advice: setting up the A6400 EVF

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Long-time OVF user here, experimenting with a new A6400 to sample the Brave New World. I've having a tough time getting the EVF set up to present the most natural image possible to my eye given the inherent limitations of the screen. The EVF is set to auto image brightness but tends to block up in bright light, which reduces the image from the "window on the world" presentation I'm used to with my OVF cameras to something cartoonish. Screen brightness settings are very limited. I've noticed that I can reduce some of the blocking-up with DR compression using the Gamma Assist settings (which are defaulted to off), but am unsure what would be best.

Any guidance? The Help Guide is of no use at all.

Thanks.
 
Long-time OVF user here, experimenting with a new A6400 to sample the Brave New World. I've having a tough time getting the EVF set up to present the most natural image possible to my eye given the inherent limitations of the screen. The EVF is set to auto image brightness but tends to block up in bright light, which reduces the image from the "window on the world" presentation I'm used to with my OVF cameras to something cartoonish. Screen brightness settings are very limited. I've noticed that I can reduce some of the blocking-up with DR compression using the Gamma Assist settings (which are defaulted to off), but am unsure what would be best.

Any guidance? The Help Guide is of no use at all.
Thanks.
I know that on the A7r3 that the picture settings (the ones used for jpeg settings) have a big effect on the EVF. I normally set the sharpness to -1 for instance.
 
hey, Moss, I'm thinking of trading my D7200 for an a6400 (it's so much smaller).

I am wondering about your general impressions of the Sony and making this move in general.

Thanks
 
hey, Moss, I'm thinking of trading my D7200 for an a6400 (it's so much smaller).

I am wondering about your general impressions of the Sony and making this move in general.

Thanks
It's still quite early in my ownership, but overall the Sony is a very well put together unit and a great improvement over the early alpha 6K series. That being said, it is a very different experience than a DSLR, especially a DSLR with an excellent UI that you are very accustomed to.
So far, I really miss Thom Hogan's detailed guides. They launched me properly into the Nikon world. The A6400 has an on-line help guide, a detailed but more difficult to read reference manual - also on-line - and a smattering of blogger's setup guides. 3rd party guides are apparently still several months out.

The tracking AF of the a6400 is quite impressive, but as T. Northrup points out, you should consider it more of a 4-6 frames per second rig than the claimed 10-11. This is fairly typical of many cameras, and not much of a consideration on my part.

It is a bit harder to operate the a6400 in the style of a Nikon. You can do a BBF emulation, but it's more difficult to precisely preframe and set a focus point, or move the focus point precisely, on the a6400. This is understandable in part because you have 10x the density of focus points available on the a6400. But you never see where they are because of this density. Rather, if you want to use a focus-and-recompose style of operation, you set the camera to Tracking-flexible spot and then a focus zone will appear in-frame. Center on the subject, and the tracking will take over. It's backwards from what you do on a Nikon, although 3-D Tracking is a weak approximation to this system.
My problem is that I'm a lefty and my nose keeps moving the focus zone to the edge of the frame. You can restrict the touch operations to a segment of the screen, but that doesn't guarantee that the focus zone will be in an easily visible portion of the screen. You can lock down the focus zone position, but apparently you give up tracking when you do. This I think is a misstep on Sony's part. Persistent selection of focus zone should be independent of tracking mode. It's annoying, and I think there must be a workaround that, for example, allows you to easily center the focus zone and keep it there, then use tracking to compose.
Eye-AF is great, if you're tracking humans. Dogs and other animals need not apply, for now.
Aside from the issues of an OVF user moving to a limited DR/limited resolution EVF, as good as it is, you should be aware that the a6400 is like many mirrorless cameras in that its AF performance varies with the aperture of the lens used. In DSLRs, AF performance is largely independent of maximum aperture. When the ambient lighting gets dim, such as in an incandescent lit living room, the performance of the camera with a slowish lens like the 18-135 slows substantially and the EVF noise increases dramatically. For best low light performance you definitely need to pair this camera with a fast lens...of which the fastest zooms available are f/4. I can see where primes would sing here.
Sizewise, it's amazingly small, smaller than many smaller u4/3 cameras. As a traveler's camera, It will work well. At this point, would I sell my Nikon gear? No...it's too early.
And I bought this camera for a specific use case.
But if I were going full frame, I could see that I would be in the sweet spot of the Sony ecosystem and could be in possession of the best mirrorless camera on the planet. The a6400 is not a smaller A7. It's Sony's new entry-level E-mount camera, and remarkably potent. If you understand that, it's a wonder.

If anyone wishes to set me straight on what I think I've experienced, I'm all eyes.
 
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hey, Moss, I'm thinking of trading my D7200 for an a6400 (it's so much smaller).

I am wondering about your general impressions of the Sony and making this move in general.

Thanks
It's still quite early in my ownership, but overall the Sony is a very well put together unit and a great improvement over the early alpha 6K series. That being said, it is a very different experience than a DSLR, especially a DSLR with an excellent UI that you are very accustomed to.



The tracking AF of the a6400 is quite impressive, but as T. Northrup points out, you should consider it more of a 4-6 frames per second rig than the claimed 10-11. This is fairly typical of many cameras, and not much of a consideration on my part.
My problem is that I'm a lefty and my nose keeps moving the focus zone to the edge of the frame. You can restrict the touch operations to a segment of the screen, but that doesn't guarantee that the focus zone will be in an easily visible portion of the screen. You can lock down the focus zone position, but apparently you give up tracking when you do. This I think is a misstep on Sony's part. Persistent selection of focus zone should be independent of tracking mode. It's annoying, and I think there must be a workaround that, for example, allows you to easily center the focus zone and keep it there, then use tracking to compose.
Eye-AF is great, if you're tracking humans. Dogs and other animals need not apply, for now.
Aside from the issues of an OVF user moving to a limited DR/limited resolution EVF, as good as it is, you should be aware that the a6400 is like many mirrorless cameras in that its AF performance varies with the aperture of the lens used. In DSLRs, AF performance is largely independent of maximum aperture. When the ambient lighting gets dim, such as in an incandescent lit living room, the performance of the camera with a slowish lens like the 18-135 slows substantially and the EVF noise increases dramatically. For best low light performance you definitely need to pair this camera with a fast lens...of which the fastest zooms available are f/4. I can see where primes would sing here.
Sizewise, it's amazingly small, smaller than many smaller u4/3 cameras. As a traveler's camera, It will work well. At this point, would I sell my Nikon gear? No...it's too early.
And I bought this camera for a specific use case.
But if I were going full frame, I could see that I would be in the sweet spot of the Sony ecosystem and could be in possession of the best mirrorless camera on the planet. The a6400 is not a smaller A7. It's Sony's new entry-level E-mount camera, and remarkably potent. If you understand that, it's a wonder.
Thanks for the detailed review. Lower practical FPS doesn't bother me. I am really attracted to the eye AF tracking feature (soon to include animal eyes, apparently).

I was left-eyed too but trained myself to shoot right eye. It only took about two weeks of practice. Of course an EVF will have advantages and disadvantages.

I mostly shoot during travel these days, so the light small size really appeals. And Nikon has been uninterested in taking advantage of this potential with DX.

Nikon's DSLR UI and body shape are very comfortable for me, and I'm sure the a6400 will be a bit of challenge in this respect.
 
Long-time OVF user here, experimenting with a new A6400 to sample the Brave New World. I've having a tough time getting the EVF set up to present the most natural image possible to my eye given the inherent limitations of the screen. The EVF is set to auto image brightness but tends to block up in bright light, which reduces the image from the "window on the world" presentation I'm used to with my OVF cameras to something cartoonish. Screen brightness settings are very limited. I've noticed that I can reduce some of the blocking-up with DR compression using the Gamma Assist settings (which are defaulted to off), but am unsure what would be best.

Any guidance? The Help Guide is of no use at all.
Thanks.
I know that on the A7r3 that the picture settings (the ones used for jpeg settings) have a big effect on the EVF. I normally set the sharpness to -1 for instance.
Yes, it appears that the EVF receives a fully-rendered JPG image including whatever color and gamma curves you've chosen. That would be a problem if you normally shoot JPEG and want to frame with a fairly compressed image. Your recorded images would have inappropriate grading.

Now apparently there is a "standard" and a "high" quality setting for the EVF. There is a difference...the "high" quality definitely looks a bit better, but consumes more battery juice in doing so. No word on exactly what it does, though.
 
hey, Moss, I'm thinking of trading my D7200 for an a6400 (it's so much smaller).

I am wondering about your general impressions of the Sony and making this move in general.

Thanks
It's still quite early in my ownership, but overall the Sony is a very well put together unit and a great improvement over the early alpha 6K series. That being said, it is a very different experience than a DSLR, especially a DSLR with an excellent UI that you are very accustomed to.
Thanks for the detailed review. Lower practical FPS doesn't bother me. I am really attracted to the eye AF tracking feature (soon to include animal eyes, apparently).

I was left-eyed too but trained myself to shoot right eye. It only took about two weeks of practice. Of course an EVF will have advantages and disadvantages.

I mostly shoot during travel these days, so the light small size really appeals. And Nikon has been uninterested in taking advantage of this potential with DX.

Nikon's DSLR UI and body shape are very comfortable for me, and I'm sure the a6400 will be a bit of challenge in this respect.
I complained about not being able to separately control tracking and focusing area (wide, zone, center,spot, flexispot) - all nontracking. Turns out that Sony's AF menu is quirky. When you select the Tracking option, a submenu opens up with all these area options. And in fact there are many such combinations available that you can collect into your own favorites menu. Sony could have created separate Area and Tracking first-level menu selections, but they did it this strange way. Only they know why.
 
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