Owning crop sensors and full framer dslrs.

[StarPortraits]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

 

[Holger Bargen]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

I'm within the Pentax system and my APS-C camera is K-S1 and my full frame camera is K1.

I have a few APS-C lenses but since I have the FF camera I use them very seldom - eveon on the APS-C camera.

Pentax has just one mount for both systems.

I went throug a lot of photos from the last years as my new ON1 sofware gave me additional options for post-processing. This way I had a deeper look at a lot of APS-C photos.

For macro work I like the additional DOF you have with APS-C due to the shift caused by the cropping factor. But I could just close the aperture a little more at the FF camera or chose a lens with longer focal length to simulate the effect of the cropping factor.

What I like at my FF photos I took with my K1 is the enormous contrast range I have within these photos. If I take photos with limited need of a high contrast range and I manage to get the exposure time I need my APS-C photos are fine. But as soon as more contrast range yould be fine for post-processing or I have some under-exposre (I have a trend to rather this way of exposure correction) FF still gives me enough room to end up with something great. I also like the great options for cropping with my K1.

The FF signal is simply more powerful compared to the signal from an APS-C sensor.

Best regards

Holger

 

[TacticDesigns]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

I've got 1 FF and 2 APS-C dSLR cameras.

I actually gave one of the APS-C dSLR cameras to my daughter for her photography course. But that camera, a Nikon D5100, is really small. That is the camera I prefer to take on vacation because it is so small.

As for the FF, I got it for paid work, so I kinda baby it a bit. I use it. It has a lot of clicks on it. But mostly for where I need the advantage of high iso / low light performance.

When I don't need that performance or I don't want to risk the FF, I grab my old Nikon D7000. If I damage it on vacation, I could still be up and running for paid shoots with my FF and it wouldn't cost as much to replace the D7000.

APS-C has dropped off the radar for me in the short term because the 2 APS-C dSLR cameras I have still work fine. And I am trying to get a second FF as a back-up to my other FF for paid shoots.

But, because of the small size of the APS-C cameras, and that they are cheaper, I think I will always try to have one around.

Take care & Happy Shooting!

 

[Lee Jay]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

I did - for 9 years (Canon 20D and Canon 5D).

I recently switched to all-crop (Canon 7D Mark II). There were many reasons for the switch but size was not among them as the 7D is the same size as the 5D.

 

[yardcoyote]

Nothing wrong with having two or more sensors, or systems side by side. Your cameras only have to please you,

 

[dwalby]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

I did - for 9 years (Canon 20D and Canon 5D).

I recently switched to all-crop (Canon 7D Mark II). There were many reasons for the switch but size was not among them as the 7D is the same size as the 5D.

I have a 6D along with a few crop bodies, and I noticed something in the exposure characteristics between them, curious if you also noticed this. I'll preface this by saying I'm an occasional camera user, so I haven't shot thousands of images to analyze this, its more of a seat of the pants thing.

If I'm shooting anything with the sunny sky in the background (Calif) the 6D tends to underexpose compared to my crop bodies. If the horizon happens to be in the vertical center of the frame, I think the 6D tends to meter more of the sky exposure, and the crop body tends to average it out a bit more.

What I think may explain it is just like the focus points in the crop body take up a larger area in the frame, I suspect the CWA zones are different too. Have you noticed something similar between your 5D and crop bodies?

 

[Lee Jay]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

I did - for 9 years (Canon 20D and Canon 5D).

I recently switched to all-crop (Canon 7D Mark II). There were many reasons for the switch but size was not among them as the 7D is the same size as the 5D.

I have a 6D along with a few crop bodies, and I noticed something in the exposure characteristics between them, curious if you also noticed this. I'll preface this by saying I'm an occasional camera user, so I haven't shot thousands of images to analyze this, its more of a seat of the pants thing.

If I'm shooting anything with the sunny sky in the background (Calif) the 6D tends to underexpose compared to my crop bodies. If the horizon happens to be in the vertical center of the frame, I think the 6D tends to meter more of the sky exposure, and the crop body tends to average it out a bit more.

What I think may explain it is just like the focus points in the crop body take up a larger area in the frame, I suspect the CWA zones are different too. Have you noticed something similar between your 5D and crop bodies?

No.

 

[richiebee]

I have both - two 35mm bodies (Nikon D610 and D850) and one APS-C (Nikon D500). They all have their uses. If I was to give one up, it would be the D610. It doesn't get used much these days.

In my daily work, I use the D850 and its absolutely the right tool for the work I do. However, my favourite camera from an operational perspective is the D500 and when I do action stuff (concerts, sports or wildlife), it's always my preference.

 

[Mike -]

I not only own and use both full frame and crop (APS-C bodies), I also own and use various brand cameras.

Canon, Sony, Nikon, had a Pentax bodies. Have Canon, Sony, Nikon, Tamron and Sigma lenses. Why limit yourself ? Something to learn from each brand/version. My current stash of bodies I use, (2) full frame Canon's, (2) full frame Sony's, (1) APS-C Sony, one full frame Nikon. Though in the Canon and Nikon lineup, I've also owned APS-c bodies.

Mike

 

[IR1234]

I have both ff and crop sensor cameras but I haven't got rid of my aps-c crop sensor yet because its many benefits. I find them more compact in my hands even with a battery grip. The 1.5 reach is great for those closeups. I know the option is included in ff but still the size and weight of the camera trumps the option. The lenses are another thing. Less glass cheaper buy and weight. Its too many to dismiss. I think I am a lifer with this setup. Do you guys owned both? What you think about the two form factors?

No idea about size and weight, we stick battery grips on everything. Weight isn’t really an issue either. In Canon land, a 7d2 with grip is the same size as 6d2. A Rebel is slightly smaller with the grip but just as comfortable.

As for using both, we play the 7d/2s and 6d2 to their strengths. At the weekend I was contracted to photograph a baseball tornament, so during the day I used the 7d2, but as soon as the light came down and stadium lights went up, I moved to the 6d2 for that extra light and higher iso.

A job a few weeks ago was folling another politician, indoor work with no flash, reportage photos. Again, play for strengths so the 6d2 came out. But for our sports event photgraphy, out come a legion of 7ds and 7d2s.

So yes, play for strengths of each system.

There is only one lens that we can’t use on the 6d2 which is the 15-85 ef-s, but considering we have a 24-105, we get nearly the same output.

 

[YRUNVS]

D600, D610, and D7100 here. The DX comes out mainly when I need reach. When I want to travel light I generally go with the D600 and a 28 or 50, though the crop body and the sigma 17-50 2.8OS is a very nice combo and fully capable of taking poster worthy pics. Honestly it's that combo which has helped me resist getting a 24-70 2.8 FX lens.

 

[bjn70]

I like them both but since I lost my D7200 my FF DSLRs are the good cameras and my APS-C body is my old D300. I still use the D300 for instances such as construction sites when I don't want to get my good body banged up and when 12MP is enough.

I don't buy that differences in weight/size of bodies are that significant but there is certainly a big difference in lens weight/size/cost. Today I was using my D300 with Tamron 17-50 f2.8 lens, a lens that is much smaller and lighter than my Tamron 24-70 f2.8 that performs the same function on a full frame body.

I've thought about getting a cheap APS-C body to carry around with me every day. There are a few exceptions to what I said about weight/size of bodies- a D3300 is small and very light.