Adding in camera filters to RAW files

[Tim Cadman]

When using a GR or GR II we have the ability to process RAW files in camera. Question - When I work on a RAW file - adjust exposure/highlights and then add say The Positive Film filter, my image now becomes a RAW adjustments intact JPEG correct? So a RAW file that has been adjusted to my liking with my choice of filter. I’m repeating myself here excuse me

Versus a JPEG Positive Film file with not much room to adjust because it’s a JPEG on lock down.

I wish I could adjust the RAW file on a laptop for visual ease and then add the Positive Film filter or Ricohs amazing black and white there.

 

[teemodk]

When using a GR or GR II we have the ability to process RAW files in camera. Question - When I work on a RAW file - adjust exposure/highlights and then add say The Positive Film filter, my image now becomes a RAW adjustments intact JPEG correct?

I am not sure what your question is exactly.
You create a new jpeg like any other jpeg.

So a RAW file that has been adjusted to my liking with my choice of filter. I’m repeating myself here excuse me

The raw stay the same.

Versus a JPEG Positive Film file with not much room to adjust because it’s a JPEG on lock down.

I wish I could adjust the RAW file on a laptop for visual ease and then add the Positive Film filter or Ricohs amazing black and white there.

The Positive Film jpeg is not locked down. For small adjustments, it will be fine. Just don't expect miracles in the shadows and highlights.

You can connect the GR II to your laptop via wifi and use the camera filters on the big screen. But if your goal is to change the look of the PF filter, you might as well use a filter in a PC program and take it from there. There is nothing in the camera that cannot be done with a PC, it's just much faster on camera

 

[Tim Cadman]

Thank you for your response. I’m not trying to change the look of the PF filter. I am trying to do all my adjustments to my RAW file and then layer the PF filter on top with all the RAW adjustments intact.

Straight JPEG with an added PF filter I know I will be limited with fine tuning.

I just thought once I threw a filter on top of a RAW all changes I made prior would not be present anymore. So ultimately they are still there. Equaling - A RAW file to my liking with a cherry on top which would be the PF filter. ) I wasn’t aware that I could link the laptop for bigger screen refining. Thanks again. I know I made that more confusing than it had to be.

 

[teemodk]

The raw file will never change with your personal settings. It does not record white balance, contrast setting, vivid setting etc. It only use these settings for the jpeg file.

In camera you can add the PF filter and any settings from the raw development menu to the raw file. The output is jpeg only.

Unfortunately you cannot add the cameras PF effect to a file on your computer.

 

[Olifaunt]

The only way is trying to reverse engineer it in your raw editor of choice. It is very, very difficult. (There was a time I spent many hours trying to do this and never quite getting it right. I eventually gave it up as pointless and now I happily shoot real film instead.)

 

[teemodk]

I got it very close to right on one file. The problem is it will change for the next file.

 

[Olifaunt]

I got it very close to right on one file. The problem is it will change for the next file.

Exactly. I spent weeks once tuning it very close to those color test patterns, but even once the test pattern looked extremely close it would hard-fail very quickly with real world images. Using a bunch of real world images, I got a few profiles that are pretty close overall, but still not entirely the same. But it doesn't really have to be exactly the same anyway so I decided that was good enough.

This was in Capture one that has a matrix-based color profile editor. This isn't even really possible with Lightroom, etc. Maybe Photoshop can do something similar.

 

[PentaxNick]

Olympus provide apps for mobile and PCs that can apply the same filters as in-camera. Wish Ricoh did the same.

 

[Olifaunt]

Olympus provide apps for mobile and PCs that can apply the same filters as in-camera. Wish Ricoh did the same.

Ricoh does, except the app runs only on the GR(ii) itself, nowhere else. This wouldn't be so bad except it is impossible to see what you are doing on the tiny image window of the in-camera raw workflow on the small GR LCD, and on top of this the LCD shows false colors. You only find out what your adjustment looks like later when you transfer the resulting jpeg from camera to computer.