Mettabones Advanced VS Green Mode. Why is mine not showing a light?

[nebulla]

I purchased a used Mettabones adapter, Canon EF to Emount T Mark IV, at least that is what it says on the case it came in.

I was curious about what was meant by green mode so I googled it and saw a utube video of someone explaining it. Now i checked mine, and I see no lights when i attach mine to the camera...neither green or more blue, but I do have the button at the left that you are supposed to hold. Did I get the wrong adapter? I updated it when I first got it to firmware 59 and I had no problems doing so which kind of tells me that it has to be right, but why no light on mine. And there is no # on mine to indicate which adapter. I looked at many others for sale and they look the sale.

Thanks

 

[Mike Evangelist]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

 

[nebulla]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

 

[nebulla]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

Sorry, I was not thinking . So, I have the 4. Is the 5 much different?

 

[sasoph]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

Sorry, I was not thinking . So, I have the 4. Is the 5 much different?

Mk IV

Unflocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BM4

Flocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT4

Mk V

Standard: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT5

Cine: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT6

You can differentiate between Green and Advanced modes in the Mk IVs by changing aperture. If the lens diaphragm moves, you're in Advanced mode.

I have both, but prefer the Mk IV paired with a RRS BMBEFE-L L-plate, which doesn't attach to a Mk V securely due to their IBIS switch bulge where the vertical attachment was on the Mk III and IVs.

 

[nebulla]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

Sorry, I was not thinking . So, I have the 4. Is the 5 much different?

Mk IV

Unflocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BM4

Flocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT4

Mk V

Standard: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT5

Cine: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT6

You can differentiate between Green and Advanced modes in the Mk IVs by changing aperture. If the lens diaphragm moves, you're in Advanced mode.

I have both, but prefer the Mk IV paired with a RRS BMBEFE-L L-plate, which doesn't attach to a Mk V securely due to their IBIS switch bulge where the vertical attachment was on the Mk III and IVs.

Thanks for your response. Everything seems to work just fine, so I will stay with this. I might also get the Sigma Mc-11 as well when I can find a good used price on one.

Ansel

 

[sasoph]

I haven't noticed any difference in focus acquisition and accuracy between the two generations in my limited testing with the A7R3 and 70-200/2.8 IS.

One more thing - you'll need to calibrate the adapter when you introduce a new lens or update the firmware (stored lens calibration profiles are wiped, unfortunately):

https://www.metabones.com/article/of/maximum-aperture

I have to say that I really like the positive lock mount on the Cine. Also, I use Advanced mode to focus manually (stopped down at taking aperture to avoid focus shift) but shoot in Green mode to avoid Sony cooking the RAWs.

 

[captura]

Thanks all for the useful information.

 

[aknyc]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

Sorry, I was not thinking . So, I have the 4. Is the 5 much different?

Mk IV

Unflocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BM4

Flocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT4

Mk V

Standard: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT5

Cine: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT6

You can differentiate between Green and Advanced modes in the Mk IVs by changing aperture. If the lens diaphragm moves, you're in Advanced mode.

I have both, but prefer the Mk IV paired with a RRS BMBEFE-L L-plate, which doesn't attach to a Mk V securely due to their IBIS switch bulge where the vertical attachment was on the Mk III and IVs.

Thanks for your response. Everything seems to work just fine, so I will stay with this. I might also get the Sigma Mc-11 as well when I can find a good used price on one.

Ansel

I have the MK iV, the MV cine and the MC-11

I found the Metabones superior in focusing speed especially EyeAF'

i don't think there is much difference between IV and V, the internals codings are different shape, V have a botton to turn of IBIS, useful when you are on a tripod .

I only do still photos in Green Mode, it is the most reliable and precise in single shot.

The advance mode came later for video shooter and continues AF, but it is not always good.

MC-11 is useless in AF-C movie mode, way to slow.

If you look the instruction there is a way to set you Green - Advanced mode in firmware.

But they is a way of holding down the button on the Metabones and powering off the camera. Look on Metabones website instructions

the one i use most this days is the CINE, even for photos. The lens sits well on the adapter and does not move. The ring is a little bigger and sometime not so comfortable if you have big hands on the a7r3, but you don't really need the foot and can put on any arca plate or cage

I had other metabones where the lens would move and twist and loos the connection with the camera.

 

[sasoph]

If you look the instruction there is a way to set you Green - Advanced mode in firmware.

But they is a way of holding down the button on the Metabones and powering off the camera. Look on Metabones website instructions

It's easy to temporarily switch between modes. With the camera on, depress the camera's lens release button, rotate the adapter slightly to break electronic contact. Then depress and hold the Metabones adapter's Wide Open button (near the USB port) whilst reconnecting the adapter.

To switch back to the default mode, switch off the camera, disconnect the adapter slightly as before and then switch camera back on.

https://www.metabones.com/article/of/smart-adapter-operation-manual/147-green-power-save-mode

 

[nebulla]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

Sorry, I was not thinking . So, I have the 4. Is the 5 much different?

Mk IV

Unflocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BM4

Flocked: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT4

Mk V

Standard: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT5

Cine: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BT6

You can differentiate between Green and Advanced modes in the Mk IVs by changing aperture. If the lens diaphragm moves, you're in Advanced mode.

I have both, but prefer the Mk IV paired with a RRS BMBEFE-L L-plate, which doesn't attach to a Mk V securely due to their IBIS switch bulge where the vertical attachment was on the Mk III and IVs.

Thanks for your response. Everything seems to work just fine, so I will stay with this. I might also get the Sigma Mc-11 as well when I can find a good used price on one.

Ansel

I have the MK iV, the MV cine and the MC-11

I found the Metabones superior in focusing speed especially EyeAF'

i don't think there is much difference between IV and V, the internals codings are different shape, V have a botton to turn of IBIS, useful when you are on a tripod .

I only do still photos in Green Mode, it is the most reliable and precise in single shot.

The advance mode came later for video shooter and continues AF, but it is not always good.

MC-11 is useless in AF-C movie mode, way to slow.

If you look the instruction there is a way to set you Green - Advanced mode in firmware.

But they is a way of holding down the button on the Metabones and powering off the camera. Look on Metabones website instructions

the one i use most this days is the CINE, even for photos. The lens sits well on the adapter and does not move. The ring is a little bigger and sometime not so comfortable if you have big hands on the a7r3, but you don't really need the foot and can put on any arca plate or cage

I had other metabones where the lens would move and twist and loos the connection with the camera.

Very detailed. Thanks a lot for this. I think that I iwill just stick to the Mettabones too.

 

[nebulla]

If you look the instruction there is a way to set you Green - Advanced mode in firmware.

But they is a way of holding down the button on the Metabones and powering off the camera. Look on Metabones website instructions

It's easy to temporarily switch between modes. With the camera on, depress the camera's lens release button, rotate the adapter slightly to break electronic contact. Then depress and hold the Metabones adapter's Wide Open button (near the USB port) whilst reconnecting the adapter.

To switch back to the default mode, switch off the camera, disconnect the adapter slightly as before and then switch camera back on.

https://www.metabones.com/article/of/smart-adapter-operation-manual/147-green-power-save-mode

I appreciate this. Thanks much

 

[Entropy512]

Only the mark V has the light. The earlier ones don’t.

Thanks but I still do not quite understand. I thought that mine was the latest IV? Is this not the same as V? Pardon my ignorance.

Sorry, I was not thinking . So, I have the 4. Is the 5 much different?

5 adds a light and an additional switch to control IBIS modes and some minor mechanical differences, that's it. No difference in functionality, just some slight improvements in convenience as far as knowing what mode you're in and being able to control certain behaviors easily as opposed to via a configuration tool or funky button combos.

(unless you get the CINE - which adds a significant mechanical difference of a positive-lock EF mount)

 

[Entropy512]

I haven't noticed any difference in focus acquisition and accuracy between the two generations in my limited testing with the A7R3 and 70-200/2.8 IS.

One more thing - you'll need to calibrate the adapter when you introduce a new lens or update the firmware (stored lens calibration profiles are wiped, unfortunately):

https://www.metabones.com/article/of/maximum-aperture

I have to say that I really like the positive lock mount on the Cine. Also, I use Advanced mode to focus manually (stopped down at taking aperture to avoid focus shift) but shoot in Green mode to avoid Sony cooking the RAWs.

Have you seen evidence of Sony cooking the RAWs even though the Metabones basically reports a null correction profile?

I know we've seen evidence of RAW-cooking with native lenses that provide correction data, but I don't recall anyone doing comparisons of Metabones Green vs. Metabones Advanced (native without correction data) vs. MC-11 (native with correction data if using a "compatible" lens).

 

[sasoph]

Also, I use Advanced mode to focus manually (stopped down at taking aperture to avoid focus shift) but shoot in Green mode to avoid Sony cooking the RAWs.

Have you seen evidence of Sony cooking the RAWs even though the Metabones basically reports a null correction profile?

I know we've seen evidence of RAW-cooking with native lenses that provide correction data, but I don't recall anyone doing comparisons of Metabones Green vs. Metabones Advanced (native without correction data) vs. MC-11 (native with correction data if using a "compatible" lens).

Ahem!

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verybiglobo.blogspot.com

I'm not going anywhere near Sony FF for at least another generation. I'm also eagerly watching the Sony A7xxx Posterization and Colored Banding thread(s).

 

[Entropy512]

Also, I use Advanced mode to focus manually (stopped down at taking aperture to avoid focus shift) but shoot in Green mode to avoid Sony cooking the RAWs.

Have you seen evidence of Sony cooking the RAWs even though the Metabones basically reports a null correction profile?

I know we've seen evidence of RAW-cooking with native lenses that provide correction data, but I don't recall anyone doing comparisons of Metabones Green vs. Metabones Advanced (native without correction data) vs. MC-11 (native with correction data if using a "compatible" lens).

Ahem!

http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/2013/01/does-sony-nex-7-cook-raw-files.html

I'm not going anywhere near Sony FF for at least another generation. I'm also eagerly watching the Sony A7xxx Posterization and Colored Banding thread(s).

That's dated 2013, so doesn't provide ANY information regarding the question I asked, given that Metabones didn't implement Advanced mode until 2016-2017 or so.

Prior to that, there was no example anywhere of a device that emulated a native lens but provided no correction data.

 

[sasoph]

Also, I use Advanced mode to focus manually (stopped down at taking aperture to avoid focus shift) but shoot in Green mode to avoid Sony cooking the RAWs.

Have you seen evidence of Sony cooking the RAWs even though the Metabones basically reports a null correction profile?

I know we've seen evidence of RAW-cooking with native lenses that provide correction data, but I don't recall anyone doing comparisons of Metabones Green vs. Metabones Advanced (native without correction data) vs. MC-11 (native with correction data if using a "compatible" lens).

Ahem!

http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/2013/01/does-sony-nex-7-cook-raw-files.html

I'm not going anywhere near Sony FF for at least another generation. I'm also eagerly watching the Sony A7xxx Posterization and Colored Banding thread(s).

That's dated 2013, so doesn't provide ANY information regarding the question I asked, given that Metabones didn't implement Advanced mode until 2016-2017 or so.

Prior to that, there was no example anywhere of a device that emulated a native lens but provided no correction data.

I think you're mistaken about the implementation date of Metabones Advanced mode as both modes were present back then (article dated January 2013):

http://www.verybiglobo.com/sony-nex-7-firmware-1-01-metabones-adapter-and-color-casting-problems/

archive.org's snapshot of the Metabones Green and Advanced modes dated March 2014:

https://web.archive.org/web/2014031...etabones.com/article/of/green-power-save-mode

 

[Entropy512]

Also, I use Advanced mode to focus manually (stopped down at taking aperture to avoid focus shift) but shoot in Green mode to avoid Sony cooking the RAWs.

Have you seen evidence of Sony cooking the RAWs even though the Metabones basically reports a null correction profile?

I know we've seen evidence of RAW-cooking with native lenses that provide correction data, but I don't recall anyone doing comparisons of Metabones Green vs. Metabones Advanced (native without correction data) vs. MC-11 (native with correction data if using a "compatible" lens).

Ahem!

http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/2013/01/does-sony-nex-7-cook-raw-files.html

I'm not going anywhere near Sony FF for at least another generation. I'm also eagerly watching the Sony A7xxx Posterization and Colored Banding thread(s).

That's dated 2013, so doesn't provide ANY information regarding the question I asked, given that Metabones didn't implement Advanced mode until 2016-2017 or so.

Prior to that, there was no example anywhere of a device that emulated a native lens but provided no correction data.

I think you're mistaken about the implementation date of Metabones Advanced mode as both modes were present back then (article dated January 2013):

http://www.verybiglobo.com/sony-nex-7-firmware-1-01-metabones-adapter-and-color-casting-problems/

archive.org's snapshot of the Metabones Green and Advanced modes dated March 2014:

https://web.archive.org/web/2014031...etabones.com/article/of/green-power-save-mode

Hmm, yeah, you're right - I was thinking of the date they implemented advanced mode for AF.

But that's the first time I've seen a link that states that Metabones null correction data might trigger the issue. (your first link said nothing about Metabones) Unfortunately, the second link isn't clear as to which mode the Metabones was in. Based on what happened - PROBABLY Advanced. And also unknown in this case if the Metabones was reporting null profile data like they do now, or reporting "copypasta" profile data like the Techart III does. Back then it might have been copypasta - it isn't now.