eos m10 vs eos m100

[dpreviewreader80]

i can get m10 for 280 eur and m100 for 390 eur both new, what should I buy, I read that AF in m100 is much better?

 

[thunder storm]

i can get m10 for 280 eur and m100 for 390 eur both new, what should I buy, I read that AF in m100 is much better?

Yes, the M100 has dpaf.

I don't know where you want to order your M100, but in the Netherlands it is body only available for 280 euro - 40 euro cashback = 240 euro in the colors grey and white.

Add a 22mm f/2.0 from eglobal central for 150 euro or less, and you have a nice combination for a very good price.

 

[dpreviewreader80]

you mean 280 eur with kit lens 15-45?

 

[Ben Herrmann]

...I seemingly had more fun with the M10 (which I've sold) as compared to the M100. And why? Mainly due to the metering scenario. With the M100, even though you select evaluative metering, the AF box still behaves as if you had spot metering selected. Rather than just meter the entire scene, the metering tends to be influenced right where you place the AF box - which drives me batty. Sure, I shoot in RAW mode so I can adjust levers to bring up or tone down hi-lights and/or shadows - but evaluative metering should be able to evaluate the entire scene - not the area by the AF point.

The previous M10 wasn't as picky in this regard. All of the newer EOS M models have this issue. With other brand cameras there are options (some of them at least) where you have the choice of choosing where the evaluative metering will take place - whether of the entire scene, or where the AF points are. Not so with the M.

So I have to say that I've had more fun with the M10 and it's capable of generating some superb IQ levels. But I'm also enjoying the use of my M100 - just not the metering aspect of using it.

 

[dpreviewreader80]

thanks for that

 

[thunder storm]

you mean 280 eur with kit lens 15-45?

No, that is body only.

 

[thunder storm]

...I seemingly had more fun with the M10 (which I've sold) as compared to the M100. And why? Mainly due to the metering scenario. With the M100, even though you select evaluative metering, the AF box still behaves as if you had spot metering selected. Rather than just meter the entire scene, the metering tends to be influenced right where you place the AF box - which drives me batty. Sure, I shoot in RAW mode so I can adjust levers to bring up or tone down hi-lights and/or shadows - but evaluative metering should be able to evaluate the entire scene - not the area by the AF point.

The previous M10 wasn't as picky in this regard. All of the newer EOS M models have this issue. With other brand cameras there are options (some of them at least) where you have the choice of choosing where the evaluative metering will take place - whether of the entire scene, or where the AF points are. Not so with the M.

So I have to say that I've had more fun with the M10 and it's capable of generating some superb IQ levels. But I'm also enjoying the use of my M100 - just not the metering aspect of using it.

For my shooting this metering is a nice thing to have, but i agree you should be able to turn it off.

 

[dpreviewreader80]

well i get a lens 15-45 for this price so your price isn't that nice anymore

 

[thunder storm]

well i get a lens 15-45 for this price so your price isn't that nice anymore

I am happy for you!

 

[Alastair Norcross]

...I seemingly had more fun with the M10 (which I've sold) as compared to the M100. And why? Mainly due to the metering scenario. With the M100, even though you select evaluative metering, the AF box still behaves as if you had spot metering selected. Rather than just meter the entire scene, the metering tends to be influenced right where you place the AF box - which drives me batty. Sure, I shoot in RAW mode so I can adjust levers to bring up or tone down hi-lights and/or shadows - but evaluative metering should be able to evaluate the entire scene - not the area by the AF point.

The previous M10 wasn't as picky in this regard. All of the newer EOS M models have this issue. With other brand cameras there are options (some of them at least) where you have the choice of choosing where the evaluative metering will take place - whether of the entire scene, or where the AF points are. Not so with the M.

So I have to say that I've had more fun with the M10 and it's capable of generating some superb IQ levels. But I'm also enjoying the use of my M100 - just not the metering aspect of using it.

With every Canon digital ILC I've owned (300D, 20D, 50D, 7D, 7DII, M, M6) evaluative metering has behaved this way. If an AF mode using single points is selected, the metering is biased towards the selected AF point (though not as much as spot metering). If I want the metering to take more account of the whole scene, I switch to center-weighted average metering mode. Is this not a possibility on the M100? On my M6, I have four metering options: evaluative, partial, spot, and center-weighted average. The difference between partial and spot is the size of the area in the center used for metering (spot uses a smaller circle in the center). Another way to stop the metering being biased towards the AF point is to switch to MF and lock the metering, then switch back. In any case, I find that the metering behavior of biasing towards the AF point is very useful in most cases. I wouldn't want Canon to change that. If you don't like that, just use center-weighted average metering (if it's available).

 

[Rock and Rollei]

If I want the metering to take more account of the whole scene, I switch to center-weighted average metering mode. Is this not a possibility on the M100? On my M6, I have four metering options: evaluative, partial, spot, and center-weighted average. The difference between partial and spot is the size of the area in the center used for metering (spot uses a smaller circle in the center).

Yeah, same options on the M100, accessible with the Quick Menu.

 

[Paul Pacurar]

how are the colors of M10 compared to M100? I didn't like the colors of M100 at all. They are just pinky and dull, compared to old canon models

 

[Garry2306]

M10 runs CHDK, M100 doesn’t ;-)

 

[StrugglingforLight]

how are the colors of M10 compared to M100? I didn't like the colors of M100 at all. They are just pinky and dull, compared to old canon models

If you're after traditional Canon colors, the general consensus (I believe) was the M2 was the last to have it. Probably not worth buying for the colors alone though imo.

 

[Ben Herrmann]

Heck, I'm looking to get a second M2 - in particular, the dark blue one with the brown accents. It's such a nice camera with regard to colors and overall IQ. Both the M1 and M2 are still - after countless new releases through the years - two of my favorite camera models.

The surprising thing is the increases in the prices of both the M and M2. Of course, the M2 was never released in the US, so you'll have to get one off of eBay from Japan. But well worth the money in my book (well, to a certain degree).

Now, if you're looking for a speed demon camera, well forget it - but for portraits (i.e. skin tones), nature, and scenic photography, I would not hesitate to recommend the M2 to anyone.

Of course it wouldn't be a photo forum without some M2 pics... Please note that all pics are in the Adobe 1998 color profile (expanded color profile), and some browsers, not being able to handle this profile, might make the photos look bland.


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