phototherapy
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After the insane price , now this ?? what else can justify that insane price ??
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No Global Shutter on the E-M1X = disappointment
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Jonas Palm
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For many, it will simply be a (useable) collectors item.
drj3
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I would love to have a global shutter when they equal current sensors in IQ. The rumor of improved IQ in the E-M1X made me think that it was unlikely to have a global shutter.
If the read speed of the sensor is significantly increased, that would enable better predictive focusing which is the most important to me. It would be nice if they used a stacked sensor like the Sony A9 for Live View with no blackout, but that might complicate hand held HR.
If the read speed of the sensor is significantly increased, that would enable better predictive focusing which is the most important to me. It would be nice if they used a stacked sensor like the Sony A9 for Live View with no blackout, but that might complicate hand held HR.
That's what product announcement press releases are for.
It will be interesting to see what the come up with.
Well, I have several Olympus and Pansonic Cameras and lenses floating around and really enjoy them for travel due to the size and weight advantage, but I think Olympus is starting to really price themselves out of the market if that (rumored) prices is true.
My local dealer just offered in a broad public advertising the Sony Alpha 7RII (granted - last years model) at 1499 Euros here in Germany. Mind you, that price includes 19% VAT.
That body is hardly bigger than my OMD EM1 MK2 (I found 2K Euro really edgy already pickung up that camera), and with the right tiny lens on it (such as the 35mm f2.8) the weight advantage is miniscule as well. I haven't started talking relative IQ yet.
Love Olympus for their heritage, glass and innovation, but if they continue on the path they are on (again - it's RUMOURS at this point only) they are in for an even harder time.
My local dealer just offered in a broad public advertising the Sony Alpha 7RII (granted - last years model) at 1499 Euros here in Germany. Mind you, that price includes 19% VAT.
That body is hardly bigger than my OMD EM1 MK2 (I found 2K Euro really edgy already pickung up that camera), and with the right tiny lens on it (such as the 35mm f2.8) the weight advantage is miniscule as well. I haven't started talking relative IQ yet.
Love Olympus for their heritage, glass and innovation, but if they continue on the path they are on (again - it's RUMOURS at this point only) they are in for an even harder time.
Not sure if this is good etiquette to include a snapshot of the online eMail campaign (I removed any identifying information) but that is the advertising I just got in my Inbox.
I think the market will decide, and customers will vote with their feet (money). I really hope Olympus can handle it.
Advertising Campaign I have received today in my Inbox. Mind you, Im running several systems.
Skeeterbytes
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Guess we'll have to soldier on with no global shutter. Like everybody else.
Cheers,
Rick
Cheers,
Rick
Astrotripper
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Chill out. Wait till the camera actually gets announced.
And while global shutter is the next big thing, there is still a lot that can be done with rolling shutter. If this new camera has a rolling electronic shutter that is as fast or faster than mechanical shutter, then we are still talking serious business here. That's having uninterrupted 60fps (or more) live view while shooting full res raws at any frame rate.
That's what Sony did with their A9, although there's a lot of footnotes to their approach (for example, it doesn't work for video).
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And while global shutter is the next big thing, there is still a lot that can be done with rolling shutter. If this new camera has a rolling electronic shutter that is as fast or faster than mechanical shutter, then we are still talking serious business here. That's having uninterrupted 60fps (or more) live view while shooting full res raws at any frame rate.
That's what Sony did with their A9, although there's a lot of footnotes to their approach (for example, it doesn't work for video).
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Gregm61
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You are free to move on at any time to someone else selling toys at less insane prices. Even better, take you own handle's advice, go take some photos as a therapy session and stop visiting rumors websites.
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drj3
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Actually it is three years old, not last years model. That choice is like saying you can buy a Lexus for a lot less than a Ferrari, so why would you buy a Ferrari.
The cameras are intended for different purposes. The Sony has a maximum 5 fps which limits its use for wildlife/sports and you need large heavy lenses to obtain in IQ advantage for wildlife/sports. Five fps is the same as my 8 year old Olympus E5 and less than the maximum of my 5 year old E-M1.1.
Vahur Krouverk
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Yeah, I expected nothing from E-M1X and now I'm really disappointed... 
Don't understand people who fidget their underpants into knots upon rumors. Let's wait until product is released and then formulate opinion.
Don't understand people who fidget their underpants into knots upon rumors. Let's wait until product is released and then formulate opinion.
John W H
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My Em1.1 is the best camera ever made and any serious photographer should use one.
Shutter doesn't really have to be global, just fast enough. 1/250 sec read-out time would make it equivalent to the mechanical shutter, as far as the rolling shutter effect is concerned. At 1/500 sec read-out time, it would be better than mechanical shutter, also for flash use.
In other words, with such a fast read-out, there will be no need for a mechanical shutter any more (except for dark frame substraction, which can be made with a much simplified mechanical shutter).
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Wu Jiaqiu
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someone in the comments is saying it might even be the MKII sensor.....according to their sources or guessing....or a mixture
just step away from the rumour sites lol, it's getting ridiculous
just step away from the rumour sites lol, it's getting ridiculous
DLBlack
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Olympus has several patents for sensors. My bet has always been on the stacked and bsi sensor that does away with the Bayer array. An Olympus version of a Forevon sensor.
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Yup, I had decided to only get a 20 mp MFT OMD next, the 1 mk 2 while nice is not worth the 2k for me. I had expected a 5mk 3 that would be my next Oly. However, their direction is now clear to try and almost FF in image quality but FF in size to get there and price very high. Frankly there is no benifit to what they are trying for me, I will just invest in s new FF body that arrives today... Oly announcement of the new X made my mind up. I get that I am not the customer they want, I tend to be more value aware, however so do have a surprisingly large amount of their gear, that I will continue to enjoy but my run down the Olyverse in purchasing is about over.Not sure if this is good etiquette to include a snapshot of the online eMail campaign (I removed any identifying information) but that is the advertising I just got in my Inbox.
I think the market will decide, and customers will vote with their feet (money). I really hope Olympus can handle it.
Advertising Campaign I have received today in my Inbox. Mind you, Im running several systems.
for those that bird or action they may be quite happy, the crop factor is good for that.
Phocal
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Yup, I had decided to only get a 20 mp MFT OMD next, the 1 mk 2 while nice is not worth the 2k for me. I had expected a 5mk 3 that would be my next Oly. However, their direction is now clear to try and almost FF in image quality but FF in size to get there and price very high. Frankly there is no benifit to what they are trying for me, I will just invest in s new FF body that arrives today...Not sure if this is good etiquette to include a snapshot of the online eMail campaign (I removed any identifying information) but that is the advertising I just got in my Inbox.
I think the market will decide, and customers will vote with their feet (money). I really hope Olympus can handle it.
Advertising Campaign I have received today in my Inbox. Mind you, Im running several systems.
Guess you popped into the future and came back since Olympus has made no statement about the new EM1. Since you went into the future is there any way you can provide us with the actual specs?
I agree with your points. Guilty as charged. It is a totally unfair, apples to oranges comparison.
If I have learned one thing in my time in the US however it is that ‘price’ matters.
I’m toning it down now, since I get my mind twisted on ‘rumors’ and normally I don’t engage in these discussions.
Trust me when I say I would like to see Olympus strive. I have doubts about their current path though.
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