ZR5100 first shots...and thoughts

[ANAYV]

and a few first thoughts, too


ISO 800

Really like the ability to handle dynamic range and less prone to overexpose than my many 1/2.3 " type sensors:


SOOC downsized for posting here.. ISO 1600


Edited in FastStone Image viewer, then downsized. ISO 1600

Tried out both the SR Zoom feature ? and also digital zoom.


19mm


95mm SOOC downsized


95mm plus SR = 190mm SOOC downsized


95mm + SR=190mm plus full digital zoom + ?? SOOC downsized

On the LCD bottom of screen there is 5X.... lens stops, then up to 10x, again then to 20x ?

So I'm guessing from 5x to 10x zoom it's SR using image stacking?

Then from 5x to whatever....that's digital zoom, plus SR zoom.

Just wanted to see results...wasn't hoping for anything special beyond 2x extra zoom.

I think this was an HDR shot:


HDR from Best shot

some thoughts.

Good build quality. LCD seems the weakest part, but most times it will stay as a fixed LCD.

Wish back thumb rest was softer rubber and not hard plastic.

Position of Video button. Pressed it few times already, though I must say it didn't turn on, instead continued with the still shooting I was doing.

LCD...not so great in daylight.

Tried it first with my FZ80 (Panasonic Superzoom). Lens starts at 20mm.

It's LCD was brighter and colors more vivid (whether or not more accurate...not sure).

Tried +2 and also auto.....same exact brightness when on auto and +2.

Not bright enough, IMHO.

AF speed. surprised...so far so good.

Tested this against FZ80 and one test with LX3.

ANAYV

 

[photoKinetic]

… and what is your first impression compared to the LX3 ?

I've found that they are very close in similar lighting.

The zr5100 newer technology and features make it a fun camera to go to.

However, the LX3 has proven to be so reliable and predictable. It has an established history and pedigree and it still yields excellent results. For the zr5100 to be mentioned with any of the LX's is high ground for sure.

From the sound of things this is probably the last iteration of the zr series and for that matter Casio cameras.

Note regarding video not starting. In some modes and settings "Video" is not available for recording.

A sleek silicone skin (case) is available on the big Bay for under $10. Last time I checked it was for the zr5000 but fits the zr5100. Offers improved grip and water / dust protection. It does restrict some of the button pushes a small bit. Very little bulk is added with the whole camera grip worthy.

pK

 

[ANAYV]

… and what is your first impression compared to the LX3 ?

I didn't look at the LX3 images yet, but get a sense that ISO 400 to ISO 1600 is better on the ZR5100. First shot is at ISO 800, btw.

That said, the faster lens on the LX3 gains a stop at the wide angle and around 2 stops at the telephoto end.You lose and you gain.

I'll take both 19mm over 24mm and 95mm over 60mm

I've found that they are very close in similar lighting.

Zr5100 doesn't seem as prone to over exposure as much...guessing the dynamic range might be more for the ZR5100.

The zr5100 newer technology and features make it a fun camera to go to.

Lots of newer stuff inside it.

However, the LX3 has proven to be so reliable and predictable. It has an established history and pedigree and it still yields excellent results.

I agree.

For the zr5100 to be mentioned with any of the LX's is high ground for sure.

Indeed.

From the sound of things this is probably the last iteration of the zr series and for that matter Casio cameras.

Seems that way.

Note regarding video not starting. In some modes and settings "Video" is not available for recording.

I see. Perhaps that's why nothing happened when i pressed it accidentally .

A sleek silicone skin (case) is available on the big Bay for under $10. Last time I checked it was for the zr5000 but fits the zr5100.

Funny you mention this. i bought one yesterday. Wanted Black, but it's 19.99.

Green was 9.99. So i bought it.

Offers improved grip and water / dust protection. It does restrict some of the button pushes a small bit. Very little bulk is added with the whole camera grip worthy.

pK

I remember using these on a camera over 10 years ago. Haven't seen or read about them since. Then typing in ZR5100 on ebay came up with silicone case.

thanks for mentioning it, though!

ANAYV

 

[Cyril Catt]

and a few first thoughts, too


ISO 800

Really like the ability to handle dynamic range and less prone to overexpose than my many 1/2.3 " type sensors:


SOOC downsized for posting here.. ISO 1600


Edited in FastStone Image viewer, then downsized. ISO 1600

Tried out both the SR Zoom feature ? and also digital zoom.


19mm


95mm SOOC downsized


95mm plus SR = 190mm SOOC downsized


95mm + SR=190mm plus full digital zoom + ?? SOOC downsized

On the LCD bottom of screen there is 5X.... lens stops, then up to 10x, again then to 20x ?

So I'm guessing from 5x to 10x zoom it's SR using image stacking?

Then from 5x to whatever....that's digital zoom, plus SR zoom.

Just wanted to see results...wasn't hoping for anything special beyond 2x extra zoom.

I think this was an HDR shot:


HDR from Best shot

Thanks for all those comparisons. They appear to add further useful options

some thoughts.

Good build quality. LCD seems the weakest part, but most times it will stay as a fixed LCD.

I see little need for the flip LCD, except for over-the-heads of-crowds, or ground-level-shots without straining my ancient knees. I prefer eye level framing with using a ClearViewer attachment.

Wish back thumb rest was softer rubber and not hard plastic.

Position of Video button. Pressed it few times already, though I must say it didn't turn on, instead continued with the still shooting I was doing.

LCD...not so great in daylight.

A ClearViewer overcomes that problem

Tried it first with my FZ80 (Panasonic Superzoom). Lens starts at 20mm.

It's LCD was brighter and colors more vivid (whether or not more accurate...not sure).

Tried +2 and also auto.....same exact brightness when on auto and +2.

Not bright enough, IMHO.

AF speed. surprised...so far so good.

Agreed

Tested this against FZ80 and one test with LX3.

IQ, wide aperture, and wide angle not as good as LX7 with 18mm accessory. But I'm willing to put up with the slight reductions due to the saving in weight and bulk, and the ZR5100's dim light burst approach, and other modes.

ANAYV

--
Cyril

 

[ANAYV]

and a few first thoughts, too


ISO 800

Really like the ability to handle dynamic range and less prone to overexpose than my many 1/2.3 " type sensors:


SOOC downsized for posting here.. ISO 1600


Edited in FastStone Image viewer, then downsized. ISO 1600

Tried out both the SR Zoom feature ? and also digital zoom.


19mm


95mm SOOC downsized


95mm plus SR = 190mm SOOC downsized


95mm + SR=190mm plus full digital zoom + ?? SOOC downsized

On the LCD bottom of screen there is 5X.... lens stops, then up to 10x, again then to 20x ?

So I'm guessing from 5x to 10x zoom it's SR using image stacking?

Then from 5x to whatever....that's digital zoom, plus SR zoom.

Just wanted to see results...wasn't hoping for anything special beyond 2x extra zoom.

I think this was an HDR shot:


HDR from Best shot

Thanks for all those comparisons. They appear to add further useful options

some thoughts.

Good build quality. LCD seems the weakest part, but most times it will stay as a fixed LCD.

I see little need for the flip LCD, except for over-the-heads of-crowds, or ground-level-shots without straining my ancient knees.

Can't use it for those type shots, Cyril. Only for selfies, really

I prefer eye level framing with using a ClearViewer attachment.

Wish back thumb rest was softer rubber and not hard plastic.

Position of Video button. Pressed it few times already, though I must say it didn't turn on, instead continued with the still shooting I was doing.

LCD...not so great in daylight.

A ClearViewer overcomes that problem.

I'm comparing it to my FZ80 and ZS60. They are fine..bright enough, and with an anti glare Screen protector, no reflections. ZR5100 not as bright, even with setting brightest/auto.

Tried it first with my FZ80 (Panasonic Superzoom). Lens starts at 20mm.

It's LCD was brighter and colors more vivid (whether or not more accurate...not sure).

Tried +2 and also auto.....same exact brightness when on auto and +2.

Not bright enough, IMHO.

AF speed. surprised...so far so good.

Agreed

Tested this against FZ80 and one test with LX3.

IQ, wide aperture, and wide angle not as good as LX7 with 18mm accessory. But I'm willing to put up with the slight reductions due to the saving in weight and bulk, and the ZR5100's dim light burst approach, and other modes.

Seems a good trade off.

ANAYV

 

[Cyril Catt]

and a few first thoughts, too

[...]

Really like the ability to handle dynamic range and less prone to overexpose than my many 1/2.3 " type sensors:

[...]

Tried out both the SR Zoom feature ? and also digital zoom.

[...]

On the LCD bottom of screen there is 5X.... lens stops, then up to 10x, again then to 20x ?

So I'm guessing from 5x to 10x zoom it's SR using image stacking?

Then from 5x to whatever....that's digital zoom, plus SR zoom.

Just wanted to see results...wasn't hoping for anything special beyond 2x extra zoom.

Thanks for all those comparisons. They appear to add further useful options

some thoughts.

Good build quality. LCD seems the weakest part, but most times it will stay as a fixed LCD.

I see little need for the flip LCD, except for over-the-heads of-crowds, or ground-level-shots without straining my ancient knees.

Can't use it for those type shots, Cyril. Only for selfies, really

I prefer eye level framing with using a ClearViewer attachment.

Wish back thumb rest was softer rubber and not hard plastic.

Position of Video button. Pressed it few times already, though I must say it didn't turn on, instead continued with the still shooting I was doing.

LCD...not so great in daylight.

A ClearViewer overcomes that problem.

I'm comparing it to my FZ80 and ZS60. They are fine..bright enough, and with an anti glare Screen protector, no reflections. ZR5100 not as bright, even with setting brightest/auto.

Tried it first with my FZ80 (Panasonic Superzoom). Lens starts at 20mm.

It's LCD was brighter and colors more vivid (whether or not more accurate...not sure).

Tried +2 and also auto.....same exact brightness when on auto and +2.

Not bright enough, IMHO.

AF speed. surprised...so far so good.

Agreed

Tested this against FZ80 and one test with LX3.

IQ, wide aperture, and wide angle not as good as LX7 with 18mm accessory. But I'm willing to put up with the slight reductions due to the saving in weight and bulk, and the ZR5100's dim light burst approach, and other modes.

Seems a good trade off.

ANAYV

Thanks. I'm particularly concerned about weight and bulk, which place greater limits on what I can do when travelling, the older I get. The ZR5100 and ZR800 complement each other to meet my photographic needs within my physical capabilities - backed up by an inevitable smart phone, with a weatherproof cover, which I'm more willing to risk where dust or seaspray may be a problem for 'real' cameras. ;-)

But my photographs are primarily graphic notes, rather than works of art. So my standards are lower than many.

 

[Guy Parsons]

Thanks. I'm particularly concerned about weight and bulk, which place greater limits on what I can do when travelling, the older I get.

Yes I'm in that (sinking) boat as well, but at a younger 77 and feeling my age a bit lately.

I tried and tried with all alternatives but there's no way that I will abandon my M4/3 gear for a holiday. The ZR5100 in a small belt pouch will definitely play a bigger role than other pocket cameras on earlier trips.

The ZR5100 and ZR800 complement each other to meet my photographic needs within my physical capabilities - backed up by an inevitable smart phone, with a weatherproof cover, which I'm more willing to risk where dust or seaspray may be a problem for 'real' cameras. ;-)

It gets down to this that I carry on to the plane tonight......



The backpack contains my usual M4/3 small shoulder bag, packed ready to remove and use when I get out from the hotel. The base of the backpack has a cheapo 7" tablet, USB power bank, USB wall wart, an old WD Wireless Passport to backup all the SD cards, cables and all the usual spare bits and pieces that usually stay locked in the hotel during the day. About 4.7kg.

It is a proper backpack with belt strap and chest strap that stops the shoulder straps slipping off as I bend and wrestle any bags. Outings during the day then the bag will revert to holding rain jackets or whatever in the top bit and snacks and water in the bottom padded (and insulated) bottom section, it's the old Orion Trekker model, I'm sure that they don't make it any more. So during the day, that on my back, the M4/3 shoulder bag on my shoulder and the ZR5100 belt pouch always ready for action. I can cope with that. Not on an organised tour, Lyn has booked hotels and we buy train travel wherever we will go in Taiwan.

My checked luggage is always a smallish two wheel trail-along bag as I see the 4 wheel roll upright bags as a problem a lot when traveling as other people sometimes wrestle with them. The old two wheel trail-alongs always seem more reliable to handle on any surface. That bit of checked luggage starts out from home at about 12kg. Singapore Airline allows me 30kg but there's no way I could handle that weight now for a trip.

The small red snoot bag has my backup M4/3 body plus a small 24-64mm equivalent lens on it, with a spare ZR3700 in a small belt pouch hiding in the nose of the bag. Plus other small odds and ends that may be used on flight. Probably around 1kg max.

The small belt pouch in the photo contains the ZR5100 which of course will get most use while travelling to save wrestling with the other cameras, unless something demands the extra quality or higher ISO of the M4/3 unit in the snoot bag. That belt pouch shown was swapped for a wider and slimmer one yesterday, so it now has a back compartment that will fit a passport and a bit of other vital stuff. Weight = ?

But my photographs are primarily graphic notes, rather than works of art.

Mine are mostly for memories and often it means that I decide to heavily crop later at home as I make other decisions, so the image quality of the M4/3 helps there. Using a pair of so-called "Pro" quality constant f/2.8 zooms that go from 24mm to 200mm equivalent. Plus a fisheye lens for those constricted places, there's one railway station Taiwan that deserves a really wide angle treatment, samples when I get to it.

I just know that many times I will use the M4/3 only, but will try to follow up with comparison ZR5100 shots as well, the more shots the merrier. My wife will be using her ZR850 but probably the ZR3700 only at night. That will help her low light shots as that is where her ZR850 always falls down.

So my standards are lower than many.

Yes, I'm with you on that. I feel "left out" in the M4/3 forum as I'm stuck on gear from 2013 and cannot see any later M4/3 camera that would suit me better (or in fact deliver much better quality). So that supplemented with the ZR5100 I should have a very complete photo trip.

I will rely on the WD Wireless Passport for the backups but have plenty of SD cards accumulated over the years so I will come home with all cards intact plus the backup of the WD unit - then disappear for a week while I sort out the mess.

My little tablet is a total pain to type and post with so I may fade away tonight until the end of the month.

Regards..... Guy

 

[Cyril Catt]

Thanks. I'm particularly concerned about weight and bulk, which place greater limits on what I can do when travelling, the older I get.

Yes I'm in that (sinking) boat as well, but at a younger 77 and feeling my age a bit lately.

I tried and tried with all alternatives but there's no way that I will abandon my M4/3 gear for a holiday. The ZR5100 in a small belt pouch will definitely play a bigger role than other pocket cameras on earlier trips.

The ZR5100 and ZR800 complement each other to meet my photographic needs within my physical capabilities - backed up by an inevitable smart phone, with a weatherproof cover, which I'm more willing to risk where dust or seaspray may be a problem for 'real' cameras. ;-)

It gets down to this that I carry on to the plane tonight......



The backpack contains my usual M4/3 small shoulder bag, packed ready to remove and use when I get out from the hotel. The base of the backpack has a cheapo 7" tablet, USB power bank, USB wall wart, an old WD Wireless Passport to backup all the SD cards, cables and all the usual spare bits and pieces that usually stay locked in the hotel during the day. About 4.7kg.

It is a proper backpack with belt strap and chest strap that stops the shoulder straps slipping off as I bend and wrestle any bags. Outings during the day then the bag will revert to holding rain jackets or whatever in the top bit and snacks and water in the bottom padded (and insulated) bottom section, it's the old Orion Trekker model, I'm sure that they don't make it any more. So during the day, that on my back, the M4/3 shoulder bag on my shoulder and the ZR5100 belt pouch always ready for action. I can cope with that. Not on an organised tour, Lyn has booked hotels and we buy train travel wherever we will go in Taiwan.

Although they don’t allow as much weight to be carried as a backpack, I prefer a shoulder bag because I can get to its contents more easily by swivelling it to the front of my left hip, from its rest position at the back of my left hip. I can then quickly grab, replace, or swap, either of my two small cameras, or any of the other necessary travel items -tickets, passport, wallet, etc, - depending on circumstances.

I normally walk around with the strap across my body on my right shoulder. My current model is a PacSafe ‘MetroSafe 250 GII’, with external side pockets that can take a water bottle and folding umbrella; front compartment for wallet, passport, notebook, etc.; back pocket for flat papers or magazine; and main compartment divided internally into two - the larger portion holds the two cameras, the rear one spare battery and memory cards, and a rolled up cloth bag that can carry excess baggage as a backpack.



I also take a small, carry-on 2-wheel trail-along case with plugs and chargers to charge both cameras and a phone together from a single socket, toilet and prescription items, and (having once arrived in Europe five days before my checked luggage) a change of shirt, underwear, socks, and shoes. Some of the contents of the shoulder bag and carry-on bag may be interchanged for convenience during travel.

My checked luggage is always a smallish two wheel trail-along bag as I see the 4 wheel roll upright bags as a problem a lot when traveling as other people sometimes wrestle with them. The old two wheel trail-alongs always seem more reliable to handle on any surface. That bit of checked luggage starts out from home at about 12kg. Singapore Airline allows me 30kg but there's no way I could handle that weight now for a trip.

My checked luggage is a soft lightweight 2-wheel trail-along bag with contents in separate ziplock bags, which, depending on destination, may start off at about 15kg. Travel between northern and southern hemispheres in mid winter/summer add weight of extra clothing.

The small red snoot bag has my backup M4/3 body plus a small 24-64mm equivalent lens on it, with a spare ZR3700 in a small belt pouch hiding in the nose of the bag. Plus other small odds and ends that may be used on flight. Probably around 1kg max.

The small belt pouch in the photo contains the ZR5100 which of course will get most use while travelling to save wrestling with the other cameras, unless something demands the extra quality or higher ISO of the M4/3 unit in the snoot bag. That belt pouch shown was swapped for a wider and slimmer one yesterday, so it now has a back compartment that will fit a passport and a bit of other vital stuff. Weight = ?

But my photographs are primarily graphic notes, rather than works of art.

The availability of better stitching software, and of in-camera/phone sweep panorama modes, have persuaded me to nowadays leave at home an LX7 and 18mm accessory lens, and an action camera which also need different chargers and memory cards. It is also less confusing - so quicker - to swap between my two Casios than between models with widely differing menus and controls.

Mine are mostly for memories and often it means that I decide to heavily crop later at home as I make other decisions, so the image quality of the M4/3 helps there. Using a pair of so-called "Pro" quality constant f/2.8 zooms that go from 24mm to 200mm equivalent. Plus a fisheye lens for those constricted places, there's one railway station Taiwan that deserves a really wide angle treatment, samples when I get to it.I just know that many times I will use the M4/3 only, but will try to follow up with comparison ZR5100 shots as well, the more shots the merrier. My wife will be using her ZR850 but probably the ZR3700 only at night. That will help her low light shots as that is where her ZR850 always falls down.

So my standards are lower than many.

Yes, I'm with you on that. I feel "left out" in the M4/3 forum as I'm stuck on gear from 2013 and cannot see any later M4/3 camera that would suit me better (or in fact deliver much better quality). So that supplemented with the ZR5100 I should have a very complete photo trip.

I will rely on the WD Wireless Passport for the backups but have plenty of SD cards accumulated over the years so I will come home with all cards intact plus the backup of the WD unit - then disappear for a week while I sort out the mess.

My little tablet is a total pain to type and post with so I may fade away tonight until the end of the month.

The wide and rapid changes in Android OSs and skins, and the limits on Apple device i/p, o/p, and storage, kept me from finding suitable travel backup, so I rely on returning with a clutch of full SD cards. I take a large-sized smart phone for maps and emergencies, but costs of Australian ISPs limit my travelling contacts.

Best wishes for a safe and happy return!

Regards..... Guy

--
Cyril

 

[rolandb]

Thanks. I'm particularly concerned about weight and bulk, which place greater limits on what I can do when travelling, the older I get.

Yes I'm in that (sinking) boat as well, but at a younger 77 and feeling my age a bit lately.

I tried and tried with all alternatives but there's no way that I will abandon my M4/3 gear for a holiday. The ZR5100 in a small belt pouch will definitely play a bigger role than other pocket cameras on earlier trips.

The ZR5100 and ZR800 complement each other to meet my photographic needs within my physical capabilities - backed up by an inevitable smart phone, with a weatherproof cover, which I'm more willing to risk where dust or seaspray may be a problem for 'real' cameras. ;-)

It gets down to this that I carry on to the plane tonight......



The backpack contains my usual M4/3 small shoulder bag, packed ready to remove and use when I get out from the hotel. The base of the backpack has a cheapo 7" tablet, USB power bank, USB wall wart, an old WD Wireless Passport to backup all the SD cards, cables and all the usual spare bits and pieces that usually stay locked in the hotel during the day. About 4.7kg.

It is a proper backpack with belt strap and chest strap that stops the shoulder straps slipping off as I bend and wrestle any bags. Outings during the day then the bag will revert to holding rain jackets or whatever in the top bit and snacks and water in the bottom padded (and insulated) bottom section, it's the old Orion Trekker model, I'm sure that they don't make it any more. So during the day, that on my back, the M4/3 shoulder bag on my shoulder and the ZR5100 belt pouch always ready for action. I can cope with that. Not on an organised tour, Lyn has booked hotels and we buy train travel wherever we will go in Taiwan.

My checked luggage is always a smallish two wheel trail-along bag as I see the 4 wheel roll upright bags as a problem a lot when traveling as other people sometimes wrestle with them. The old two wheel trail-alongs always seem more reliable to handle on any surface. That bit of checked luggage starts out from home at about 12kg. Singapore Airline allows me 30kg but there's no way I could handle that weight now for a trip.

The small red snoot bag has my backup M4/3 body plus a small 24-64mm equivalent lens on it, with a spare ZR3700 in a small belt pouch hiding in the nose of the bag. Plus other small odds and ends that may be used on flight. Probably around 1kg max.

The small belt pouch in the photo contains the ZR5100 which of course will get most use while travelling to save wrestling with the other cameras, unless something demands the extra quality or higher ISO of the M4/3 unit in the snoot bag. That belt pouch shown was swapped for a wider and slimmer one yesterday, so it now has a back compartment that will fit a passport and a bit of other vital stuff. Weight = ?

But my photographs are primarily graphic notes, rather than works of art.

Mine are mostly for memories and often it means that I decide to heavily crop later at home as I make other decisions, so the image quality of the M4/3 helps there. Using a pair of so-called "Pro" quality constant f/2.8 zooms that go from 24mm to 200mm equivalent. Plus a fisheye lens for those constricted places, there's one railway station Taiwan that deserves a really wide angle treatment, samples when I get to it.

I just know that many times I will use the M4/3 only, but will try to follow up with comparison ZR5100 shots as well, the more shots the merrier. My wife will be using her ZR850 but probably the ZR3700 only at night. That will help her low light shots as that is where her ZR850 always falls down.

So my standards are lower than many.

Yes, I'm with you on that. I feel "left out" in the M4/3 forum as I'm stuck on gear from 2013 and cannot see any later M4/3 camera that would suit me better (or in fact deliver much better quality). So that supplemented with the ZR5100 I should have a very complete photo trip.

I will rely on the WD Wireless Passport for the backups but have plenty of SD cards accumulated over the years so I will come home with all cards intact plus the backup of the WD unit - then disappear for a week while I sort out the mess.

My little tablet is a total pain to type and post with so I may fade away tonight until the end of the month.

Regards..... Guy

Hi Guy,,

Interesting post. I too have the Orion Trekker , been my main "carry on" bag for years, and yes I'm sure your right in thinking its no longer made.

The bottom part is ideal for my small (old) shoulder bag which fits perfectly for the flight.



This then holds my Pan LX7 & TZ70 along with the 18mm wide lens, spare batts and cards, cleaning brush and cloth.



The top section is then used for "personal" bits while going form home to hotel, and then the camera bag comes out to be carried as and where and its light and easy to use.

The Casio 5100 is still on the cards as it will, as I'm sure I have said before, fit nicely along side the 850 with the 5100 having the 19mm lens which saves my carrying the adaptor tube and 18mm Pan lens and keep putting it on and taking it off. The idea of having the same battery for both cams sounds good,, same charger therefore even better.

I have come to feel,as you and Cyril have been saying on here, nowadays its more a case of taking memories home, so for me the iq of the 850 & 5100 will probs do me compared to my LX7 & TZ70. I may then even treat myself to a smaller bag for the two Casios,, who knows eh,, It's always nice to come home with a few "keepers" but now, for me anyway, I'm really only a snapper now and feel any time away should be spent enjoying wherever I am rather than taking hundreds of photos that may very well never even see the light of day.

Anyway, just a few thoughts from me.

Hope you are keeping well.

Roland.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rolandb52/

"" I'm a snap-shooter! I shoot anything that interest me. Sometimes, I get lucky and some of my snap-shots turn into a photograph.""

 

[Guy Parsons]

In Taipei right now, in a cheap hostel within a short walk of the main station. Super complicated rail station. Amazing array of underground stations and shopping arcades going for kilometres under some streets. Easy to get lost, which we did a few times. Very rare to see any other Euro types, local people super friendly and helpful.

Later will work out the easiest way to get some photos here. Still learning to cope with what this Android tablet will and won't do for me.

Sky not helping with the photography, always grey clouds with occasional light rain.

So far the ZR5100 is very useful with its 19mm ability, used in many places where my M4/3 gear starts at 24mm equivalent.

Regards........Guy

 

[rolandb]

In Taipei right now, in a cheap hostel within a short walk of the main station. Super complicated rail station. Amazing array of underground stations and shopping arcades going for kilometres under some streets. Easy to get lost, which we did a few times. Very rare to see any other Euro types, local people super friendly and helpful.

Later will work out the easiest way to get some photos here. Still learning to cope with what this Android tablet will and won't do for me.

Sky not helping with the photography, always grey clouds with occasional light rain.

So far the ZR5100 is very useful with its 19mm ability, used in many places where my M4/3 gear starts at 24mm equivalent.

Regards........Guy

Have a great time,,

Nice to hear the ZR5100's 19mm is 'very useful' I stillvthink it's the way to go for me to pair it up with my 850 as a light weight travel combo.

Roland.

 

[Guy Parsons]

Have a great time,,

Nice to hear the ZR5100's 19mm is 'very useful' I stillvthink it's the way to go for me to pair it up with my 850 as a light weight travel combo.

Roland.

Yes, I can see that as very useful. But as night falls it would always be wise to use the ZR5100 as its bigger sensor makes quite a difference.

Regards.........Guy