CANON EF-M 32MM F/1.4/1.8 COMING

I would think this will be a 32mm 1.8 version of the 50 stm and sell for $249.
 
Too bad no short telephoto lens 50-75 f2.8 IS. There is already 22/2 and 35/3.5
If this is anything like the 22 F2, i.e. small and light, it will be worth getting. I have the 35 F2 IS, which works really well on the M, but I could see myself using this one more, just for the form factor. Most of my use of the 35 is for people, so I have to set the shutter speed to at least 1/100, just to cut down on subject movement (even when someone thinks they aren't moving, they really are). So the IS is not so important (it's still good to have, though). As for the 35 F3.5, that's a macro lens, and considerably larger than the 22. If the 32 is around the same size as the 22, or just a bit larger, the size factor and the extra 2 stops of light will easily distinguish it from the 35 F3.5.
 
Too bad no short telephoto lens 50-75 f2.8 IS. There is already 22/2 and 35/3.5
If this is anything like the 22 F2, i.e. small and light, it will be worth getting. I have the 35 F2 IS, which works really well on the M, but I could see myself using this one more, just for the form factor. Most of my use of the 35 is for people, so I have to set the shutter speed to at least 1/100, just to cut down on subject movement (even when someone thinks they aren't moving, they really are). So the IS is not so important (it's still good to have, though). As for the 35 F3.5, that's a macro lens, and considerably larger than the 22. If the 32 is around the same size as the 22, or just a bit larger, the size factor and the extra 2 stops of light will easily distinguish it from the 35 F3.5.

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Hey, guys. not 35/3.5, but 28/3.5 :)

Sony E 35mm 1.8 OSS vs Canon EF-M 28mm 3.5 IS
Sony E 35mm 1.8 OSS vs Canon EF-M 28mm 3.5 IS

Thinking that Sony has 35mm 1.8 OSS, I expected Canon to release the similar thing.

Do you think that Canon's 32mm 1.8 (I do not think it's aperture is 1.4) is as small as 22mm 2.0? I expect it looks like EFM 28mm 3.5 IS or Sony E 35 1.8 OSS.
 
Too bad no short telephoto lens 50-75 f2.8 IS. There is already 22/2 and 35/3.5
If this is anything like the 22 F2, i.e. small and light, it will be worth getting. I have the 35 F2 IS, which works really well on the M, but I could see myself using this one more, just for the form factor. Most of my use of the 35 is for people, so I have to set the shutter speed to at least 1/100, just to cut down on subject movement (even when someone thinks they aren't moving, they really are). So the IS is not so important (it's still good to have, though). As for the 35 F3.5, that's a macro lens, and considerably larger than the 22. If the 32 is around the same size as the 22, or just a bit larger, the size factor and the extra 2 stops of light will easily distinguish it from the 35 F3.5.

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Hey, guys. not 35/3.5, but 28/3.5 :)

Sony E 35mm 1.8 OSS vs Canon EF-M 28mm 3.5 IS
Sony E 35mm 1.8 OSS vs Canon EF-M 28mm 3.5 IS

Thinking that Sony has 35mm 1.8 OSS, I expected Canon to release the similar thing.

Do you think that Canon's 32mm 1.8 (I do not think it's aperture is 1.4) is as small as 22mm 2.0? I expect it looks like EFM 28mm 3.5 IS or Sony E 35 1.8 OSS.
If it doesn't have IS, it doesn't need to be as big as those two. The 50 F1.8STM is pretty small, almost a pancake, and that's a full frame lens. I don't see why a 32 F1.8 STM in EF-M mount couldn't be almost as small.

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Yes, Yes, Yes, to this rumor. I have been searching for the ONE (single fast wide prime) for a long time now:

had Canon 22mm f/2 on EOS-M (too wide & its bokeh is rather lacking)

had Canon 28mm f/1.8 on DSLR (♥ it, but I don't like size of dslr)

had Nikon 35mm f/1.8 on DSLR (♥ it, but 35mm can to tad tight)

had Canon 50mm /1.8 (too tight for eveything other than portraits)

For me, the sweet spot seem to be between 28mm ~ 35mm on APS-C sensor. I've been obsessed with Sigma DN 30mm f/1.4 lately. It's bokeh is truely lovely, and I can walk-about with that single prime for nearly everything.

However:
  • Its rather BIG and HUGE
  • I dislike Sony camera much (had 2 NEX with focusing issues)
  • Sony used annoying 16:9 LCD that look smaller than 3:2 ratio LCD in Canon
  • Sony camera have horrible Touch-Screen
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If Canon 32mm f/1.8 is smaller than Sigma 30/1.4, then I can safely crossed out both Sony & Fuji camera from my consideration. Life is easier when a single platform have the lens you wants. Canon has a rich selection of EF telephoto primes using adapter, but it is missing more fast wide prime options.

Conversely, I would also like to see an EF-S 30mm f/1.8 for Canon DSLR as well.
 
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8mm f/2.0 (fish?)
22mm f/1.2
35mm f/1.4
50mm f/1.4
85mm f/1.8
100-350mm f/4.5-6.3

C´mon Canon! It´s doable! :-D
I am thinking that the point of M cameras is being casual and lightweight.

Most of people will be happy with a kit lens.

Some like me would like to have a 1-2 lens combo with primes. An option with one lens only is one of these: 22, 28 or (rumored) 32. A second option would be to have a moderate wide angle (22 or 28) and a short telephoto (50-75). F 2.8 is a sweet spot to keep the lenses compact.

As much as I love the idea of 85/1.8 for portraits I am concerned about focus accuracy. At f1.8 you need an eye detect like on Sony or Panasonic or very tight focusing points (but that is the other discussion)
 
I wouldn´t expect all those lenses to be big.

The 22mm would have only about 18mm large front lens element (in diameter), 35mm would have 25mm, 50mm would be still manageable 35-36mm range.

Only 85mm would go 47mm, and with that kind of focal range and aperture, you cannot expect it will be small. The small “issue” will be solved by those 22-50mm lenses.

They can add some darker pancake for sake of possibility having super small – pocketable camera format. Like 18mm f/2.8. That could do.
 
As much as I love the idea of 85/1.8 for portraits I am concerned about focus accuracy. At f1.8 you need an eye detect like on Sony or Panasonic or very tight focusing points (but that is the other discussion)
Actually, no you don't. I've had the EF 85 F1.8 for over ten years, and used it with the 20D, 50D, 7D, 7DII, M, and M6. Never had any problems getting the eye I wanted in focus, even wide open. The superb AF of the 7DII, with its 65 cross-type points, certainly makes that even easier than previous DSLR systems, but they coped perfectly well too, even the 9 points of the 20D. The M and M6 also work really well with that lens. I'm sure eye detect focusing is a fine feature, but it's hilarious how some people immediately assume that cameras that don't have it can't reliably achieve focus on eyes.
 
Yes please 30-35ish at 1.8 or 2. Sized as small as practicable. Doubt it will have IS if it is small. I’d still buy. I have the 50 1.8 and it’s just a bit too long for an ideal, leave on most of the time lens. The 22 is excellent - but a bit too wide.
 
As much as I love the idea of 85/1.8 for portraits I am concerned about focus accuracy. At f1.8 you need an eye detect like on Sony or Panasonic or very tight focusing points (but that is the other discussion)
Actually, no you don't. I've had the EF 85 F1.8 for over ten years, and used it with the 20D, 50D, 7D, 7DII, M, and M6. Never had any problems getting the eye I wanted in focus, even wide open. The superb AF of the 7DII, with its 65 cross-type points, certainly makes that even easier than previous DSLR systems, but they coped perfectly well too, even the 9 points of the 20D. The M and M6 also work really well with that lens. I'm sure eye detect focusing is a fine feature, but it's hilarious how some people immediately assume that cameras that don't have it can't reliably achieve focus on eyes.

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Dear Sir. The number of DSLR's you owned is not relevant here. The forum and this discussion is about M

Focusing points on M are larger than on DSLRs which makes the exact focus on the eye very difficult, especially with longer lens with wide aperture. Eye detect is a wonderful technology for portraits. Even if you seem to enjoy arguing about most things you have to admit that I am making a valid point

I am just discussing cameras and technology. I am not arguing about your photographic skills to get a perfect focus all the time. I am sure you don't need AF at all for that. For all I know you might have killed enemy soldiers in Falklands with just your bare hands and you manual focus Canon.
 
Yes please 30-35ish at 1.8 or 2. Sized as small as practicable. Doubt it will have IS if it is small. I’d still buy. I have the 50 1.8 and it’s just a bit too long for an ideal, leave on most of the time lens. The 22 is excellent - but a bit too wide.
Agree, in family events situations I tried the 22 and the 40. I felt like the sweet spot was something in between.
Normal focal length lenses have been the staple of street photography for decades, a much needed lens for the M system.

There is a good chance that it could have OIS since the latest EF-M 28 and the EF-S 35 have OIS and those are compact prime lenses.
 
As much as I love the idea of 85/1.8 for portraits I am concerned about focus accuracy. At f1.8 you need an eye detect like on Sony or Panasonic or very tight focusing points (but that is the other discussion)
Actually, no you don't. I've had the EF 85 F1.8 for over ten years, and used it with the 20D, 50D, 7D, 7DII, M, and M6. Never had any problems getting the eye I wanted in focus, even wide open. The superb AF of the 7DII, with its 65 cross-type points, certainly makes that even easier than previous DSLR systems, but they coped perfectly well too, even the 9 points of the 20D. The M and M6 also work really well with that lens. I'm sure eye detect focusing is a fine feature, but it's hilarious how some people immediately assume that cameras that don't have it can't reliably achieve focus on eyes.

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Dear Sir. The number of DSLR's you owned is not relevant here. The forum and this discussion is about M

Focusing points on M are larger than on DSLRs which makes the exact focus on the eye very difficult, especially with longer lens with wide aperture. Eye detect is a wonderful technology for portraits. Even if you seem to enjoy arguing about most things you have to admit that I am making a valid point

I am just discussing cameras and technology. I am not arguing about your photographic skills to get a perfect focus all the time. I am sure you don't need AF at all for that. For all I know you might have killed enemy soldiers in Falklands with just your bare hands and you manual focus Canon.
Like Alastair, I find the EF 85 1.8 accurate and very useful on my M5. It is one of my favorite combinations and I would welcome a newer and/or smaller version. IS and shorter minimum focus distance would be welcome too, f2 or f2.8 would be acceptable as a size compromise.
 
If Canon 32mm f/1.8 is smaller than Sigma 30/1.4, then I can safely crossed out both Sony & Fuji camera from my consideration. Life is easier when a single platform have the lens you wants. Canon has a rich selection of EF telephoto primes using adapter, but it is missing more fast wide prime options.

Conversely, I would also like to see an EF-S 30mm f/1.8 for Canon DSLR as well.
Canon's 28mm f/1.8 was introduced in 1985 and according to the reviews isn't significantly better than the older Sigma EX 30mm f/1.4 though it's slightly smaller and two thirds the weight. A better bet would be the smaller 28mm f/2.8 IS dating from 2012. While the f/1.8 is probably long overdue for an update, I can't see an EF-S version coming as it wouldn't be significantly smaller than the current IS lens. An EF-M version would be tasty but it would have some stiff competition from the existing macro lens.
 
Dear Sir. The number of DSLR's you owned is not relevant here. The forum and this discussion is about M

Focusing points on M are larger than on DSLRs which makes the exact focus on the eye very difficult, especially with longer lens with wide aperture.
I cannot agree on this statement. The focus point showed on the DSLR viewfinder is actually larger than the dot. When I was doing some very precise (AF precision demanding) shooting, I found many DSLR cameras utterly useless for my needs and intentions. On the other hand, the old M worked "lightyears" better.

It did focus when I wanted, It didn´t get fooled by some patterns, and so on.
Eye detect is a wonderful technology for portraits. Even if you seem to enjoy arguing about most things you have to admit that I am making a valid point
You do. it´s hard to focus on eye with most cameras, but I don´t see M cameras to be worse. Not at all. I found it significantly better than many DSLRs though.
I am just discussing cameras and technology. I am not arguing about your photographic skills to get a perfect focus all the time. I am sure you don't need AF at all for that. For all I know you might have killed enemy soldiers in Falklands with just your bare hands and you manual focus Canon.
That´s how I go at it too, and only because I haven´t find reliable focusing system, which wouldn´t have any other massive flaws (Sony is no-go for me).
 
As much as I love the idea of 85/1.8 for portraits I am concerned about focus accuracy. At f1.8 you need an eye detect like on Sony or Panasonic or very tight focusing points (but that is the other discussion)
Actually, no you don't. I've had the EF 85 F1.8 for over ten years, and used it with the 20D, 50D, 7D, 7DII, M, and M6. Never had any problems getting the eye I wanted in focus, even wide open. The superb AF of the 7DII, with its 65 cross-type points, certainly makes that even easier than previous DSLR systems, but they coped perfectly well too, even the 9 points of the 20D. The M and M6 also work really well with that lens. I'm sure eye detect focusing is a fine feature, but it's hilarious how some people immediately assume that cameras that don't have it can't reliably achieve focus on eyes.
 

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