Disapointing lens for a disapointing system

[Boris Melinand]

Mine came as a kit lens with my X-T2 I bought one year ago. I was coming from a dual system m4/3 (pana gh3) and FF (canon 5d classic). I wanted to unify on one quality system to build on. The so acclamed Fuji APS system seem to be the right one.

Since I got it I wasn't able to really shoot a keeper. I found the shots I made dull and soft with bad colors, and really bad skin rendering (no detail ). I got lot of under average results. So many things were said about fuji jpeg quality but it is not making it for me (even with other lenses I tried).

I allready had to wait many monthes for a firmware update to solve the peripheric lens correction problem in video. and still more important I know I canot take this system on a pro gig I completely loses faith in this system. Not enough reliability

I had way better results with my Pana GH3 and LX100 (except for landscape, for sure) wich is a pity when you think of it and I prefer not to talk about my 5D.

I know there are primes but I need a standard and stabilized zoom lenses for video. So the 16-50 canot be seen as a replacement and waiting for the next stabilzed sensor camera either. I cannot double every lenses.

And now I regret a lot my panasonic 12-35 2.8 and I understand how a great lenses it was and I regret my canon lenses too...

Perhaps it's better than any plastic kit lenses from other manufacturers, but in no way it is a great lens.

The small fuji lens lineup is now a real worry because there is few or no alternative if a lenses is not making it for you. And all that stuff is killing my pleasure to shoot with this system. After being really happy to change I am really thinking to go back to PANA (GH5 or G9) or try Sony.

 

[tonyreidsma]

I'm sure SONY would love to have you back.

 

[eric333]

Sigh, here we go...

 

[Pritzl]

Warning: Trolling afoot.

Do not feed.

 

[NottsPhoto]

If your getting those results, your not doing it right.

I recognise some of the complaints your having about the skin textures, you need to adjust your sharpness and NR.

As for the system being unreliable, you need to persist and realise it’s not as easy as the canon.

 

[Bobo Hodls]

You could have just done what you need to do for yourself, but with this public rationalization your decision will garner a lot of push back.

Make the switch, don't look back. Enjoy.

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[Turlututu]

Samples ? Settings used ?

This combo is able to produce stunning images, you might be the culprit or your camera / lens might be damaged...

 

[gariktal]

It must be trolling.

Otherwise I could tell you that nowadays every system can produce professional results - the proof is in the pudding: there are pros (even the best ones, Magnum people) who are using MFT (Alex Majoli) or Fujifilm (David Alan Harvey) these days - so if you cannot obtain "a keeper" you better stop wasting money in gear and:

1 - you find yourself a hobby better suited to your talents

2 - spend some money on those photography lessons

 

[Jerry-astro]

Let's see how long this thread lasts before I end up having to lock it. Not long, I predict.

Your "review" is all subjective opinion consisting of zero evidence, facts, or substantiating detail. Thus, it is essentially of zero value other than perhaps to make you feel better that you got that all out of your system. So, unless you're prepared to turn this into a REAL review with data, examples, and lots more detail on the issues you're seeing, my advice to folks here would be to simply move on and not feed the troll.

Yes, admittedly a little harsh for a Moderator response, however, seeing this train wreck coming from a mile (1.6 km) away, I felt the need to weigh in early.

 

[rafalczak]

That's the dumbest trolling comment I've seen in these forums, and I've seen a lot. While it is a kit lens, yes, having that in mind it's superb. And I can't think of how can you get a muddy jpg from XT2, even with this lens, have you enabled advanced filters set to toy or what? To make bad comments viable, make them realistic next time..

 

[activator]

Im not saying its you .........but there are now agencies who specialize in the dissemination of "Black PR " . They get paid to promote bad PR .

With so many people making buying decisions based on other folks "internet opinions" from paid "White PR"................its often good value spend to knock rivals products.

The way forward is to try and gain personal experience of a product. Go for a majority decision...............and always try and read between the lines of any comments or reviews.

 

[JamieTux]

Boris, if video with an SLR form factor is your primary concern I think you should stick to Panasonic GH cameras. Canon started it so they have a march on everyone too but the 5D cameras are pretty far down their heirarchy.

Sony do a pretty good job too especially as you can adapt them to almost any lenses.

Of course you have black magic too if you want better video for m43.

I'm sure someone will have produced some amazing content with Fujifilm cameras but I don't think even Fujifilm are marketing themselves as a video company.

Also in my experience video lenses cost a lot more than stills lenses, not less.

I this this might be a case of unrealistic expectations Boris.

 

[NottsPhoto]

Hey guys, he may or may not be a troll, but I do recognise his issues with the sooc jpegs, and the need to make fairly big changes to the default camera settings to get decent skin detail...

I also recognise his issues with perceived reliability with the xt2... its a very fiddly camera that is very different from the canons, much more complex.

i have the same lens and I also do a lot of video work, and I don’t recognise the issues he’s having with lens, which imho is a perfectly good mid range standard zoom... I think his issues are more about a failure o come to grips with the jpeg settings and the general character of the camera...

and i will also say that in this forum there is a lot of comments which dismiss these concerns out of hand....

but for those who have come from the 5d environment the concerns are recognised...

i think you guys could do more to provide positive help to get others with different experiences to the same place you are..

 

[Bilbo_bobbins]

Hey guys, he may or may not be a troll, but I do recognise his issues with the sooc jpegs, and the need to make fairly big changes to the default camera settings to get decent skin detail...

I also recognise his issues with perceived reliability with the xt2... its a very fiddly camera that is very different from the canons, much more complex.

i have the same lens and I also do a lot of video work, and I don’t recognise the issues he’s having with lens, which imho is a perfectly good mid range standard zoom... I think his issues are more about a failure o come to grips with the jpeg settings and the general character of the camera...

and i will also say that in this forum there is a lot of comments which dismiss these concerns out of hand....

but for those who have come from the 5d environment the concerns are recognised...

i think you guys could do more to provide positive help to get others with different experiences to the same place you are..

 

[guzzi850m2]

Okay then go back to Panasonic and/or Sony, some prefer one over the other and they also makes TV's so will make you life more simple in some respects.

Strange some top photographers uses Fuji and the results I seen on my 4k 28" blew my socks away, awesome tool IN THE RIGHT HANDS.

 

[wooly1]

New member, One Post, One Lens - Says it all.

 

[Cena]

1. Supposed you are not trolling and
2. you are mainly in video then
3. you shouldn’t complain about your wrong decision!!!

Even a beginner wouldn`t after some easy research come to the conclusion buying Fuji for video as main use!?

 

[sarbos]

Well, it seems that you have chosen a system that doesn't suit your needs.

I know it could be hard to 'bite the bullet' and sell it, both for economic reasons and for having to admit you did a bad choice.

But it seems that you already have decided it was a bad choice, so it's only matter of lossing some money... since you don't like it I think that's worth spend some extra bucks and get something that fits your style.

My two cents,

 

[NottsPhoto]

Hey guys, he may or may not be a troll, but I do recognise his issues with the sooc jpegs, and the need to make fairly big changes to the default camera settings to get decent skin detail...

I also recognise his issues with perceived reliability with the xt2... its a very fiddly camera that is very different from the canons, much more complex.

i have the same lens and I also do a lot of video work, and I don’t recognise the issues he’s having with lens, which imho is a perfectly good mid range standard zoom... I think his issues are more about a failure o come to grips with the jpeg settings and the general character of the camera...

and i will also say that in this forum there is a lot of comments which dismiss these concerns out of hand....

but for those who have come from the 5d environment the concerns are recognised...

i think you guys could do more to provide positive help to get others with different experiences to the same place you are..

 

[Jerry-astro]

After consulting with my esteemed co-Mod, we're going to lock this thread before it degrades into a flame fest.

To the OP. Consider putting more thought and effort into reviews and provide some real data to back your assertions, rather than simply posting what IMHO is troll-bait.