What am I missing about the RX10 iv focus magnifier

[Isabel Cutler]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.







Nothing happens.

Isabel

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[hwvlover]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.



Nothing happens.

Isabel

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Nothing happened for me either. And then I custom set the centre button to the Focus Magnifier!

Regards,
David
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[Bill Borne]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.



Nothing happens.

Isabel

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I may be wrong but think you have to be in Manual Focus?

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[hwvlover]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.



Nothing happens.

Isabel

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I may be wrong but think you have to be in Manual Focus?

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Bill, it actually works in S and A focus modes as well as the Manual ones providing the camera is set for Single Shooting. It does not work in Continuous however whether it is set for Single or not.
Regards,
David
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[Isabel Cutler]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.



Nothing happens.

Isabel

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I may be wrong but think you have to be in Manual Focus?

--
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Bill, it actually works in S and A focus modes as well as the Manual ones providing the camera is set for Single Shooting. It does not work in Continuous however whether it is set for Single or not.
Regards,
David
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Custom Key(PB) - I chose Enlarge Image and assigned it to the button in the middle of the control wheel. Pressed it, nothing happened.

Can someone direct me to a page in the help guide that explains the setup better, or tell me how to put magnification on the center button?

TIA.

Isabel

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[hwvlover]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.



Nothing happens.

Isabel

--
http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
https://www.flickr.com/photos/isabel95/

I may be wrong but think you have to be in Manual Focus?

--
"Life's Too Short to Worry about the BS!"
So I Choose my Battles
Click for Wild Man's Photos

Bill, it actually works in S and A focus modes as well as the Manual ones providing the camera is set for Single Shooting. It does not work in Continuous however whether it is set for Single or not.
Regards,
David
***************************************
Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

Custom Key(PB) - I chose Enlarge Image and assigned it to the button in the middle of the control wheel. Pressed it, nothing happened.

Can someone direct me to a page in the help guide that explains the setup better, or tell me how to put magnification on the center button?

TIA.

Isabel

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http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
https://www.flickr.com/photos/isabel95/

You have put it to Play Back! Set it, Focus Magnifier, via Custom Key Shoot
Regards,
David
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Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

 

[Isabel Cutler]

You have put it to Play Back! Set it, Focus Magnifier, via Custom Mode Shoot
Regards,
David
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Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

I wanted to use the magnifier to tweak my focus for taking an image, not viewing it. Is that not possible?

Isabel

 

[hwvlover]

Yes..but PB refers to playback. Go to Custom Key (Shoot) and set Focus Magnifier to the centre button. Job done. Then you can focus in DMF or M and press the centre button to get a bigger image bit and bingo.
Interesting the magnifier appears in those auto focus mode too although I am not clear why!!

Regards,
David
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[hwvlover]

And when you have got it set to the centre button then go to Menu...Camera 1.... page 12...and you can set the Focus Magnif. Time and also Initial Focus Mag.....I have gone for 5 seconds for the first and x5.3 for the second.

Regards,
David
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[Bill Borne]

I've set it properly in the menu - I press the center of the control wheel.



Nothing happens.

Isabel

--
http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
https://www.flickr.com/photos/isabel95/

I may be wrong but think you have to be in Manual Focus?

--
"Life's Too Short to Worry about the BS!"
So I Choose my Battles
Click for Wild Man's Photos

Bill, it actually works in S and A focus modes as well as the Manual ones providing the camera is set for Single Shooting. It does not work in Continuous however whether it is set for Single or not.
Regards,
David
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Thanks for setting me straight

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[hwvlover]

Bill, the magnifier is available in those modes. However, as I said in a reply to Isabel, I am not too sure that I understand why!

Regards,
David
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[Isabel Cutler]

And when you have got it set to the centre button then go to Menu...Camera 1.... page 12...and you can set the Focus Magnif. Time and also Initial Focus Mag.....I have gone for 5 seconds for the first and x5.3 for the second.

Regards,
David
***************************************
Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

Haven't figured out the center button/magnifier initiation, but now that I've sent the magnifier to 5.3 it initiates when I turn the focus ring...and that's fine for me. I don't really need the button since I have more control with the ring.

Isabel

 

[hwvlover]

The button is useful. All you need to do is set it up as I explained.

You set the wrong thing (Enlarge Image) in the wrong settings menu (Custom Key(PB))

Regards,
David
***************************************
Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

 

[Isabel Cutler]

The button is useful. All you need to do is set it up as I explained.

You set the wrong thing (Enlarge Image) in the wrong settings menu (Custom Key(PB))

Regards,
David
***************************************
Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

 

[hwvlover]

The button is useful. All you need to do is set it up as I explained.

You set the wrong thing (Enlarge Image) in the wrong settings menu (Custom Key(PB))

Regards,
David
***************************************
Growing old is inevitable; growing up, however, is optional.
And I have opted out.

 

[borat21]

following up on this thread I have not found out how to autofocus whilst the magnification is on. currently i autofocus, then magnify, then press the shutter again half way, then it jumps back to normal view which I don't want to for the final image. my old canon eos 550d allowed me to use the center focus point while in magnification mode and it helped get way more sharper images then when the center focus point was on in normal view. anyone know how to do that with the sony?

 

[Stephen Ingraham]

If someone has not said this already: you need the camera in Manual focus for this to work. You can also use the Focus Maginifier with DMF focus, but then it is automatic...magnification coming in as soon as you touch the focus ring after half-pressing the shutter release.

 

[elliottnewcomb]

I just set this up on my rx100m6.

1. assign Focus Magnifier to your rear Center Button. (you will lose default eye AF) you could assign focus magnifier to another rocker or C button, however, you only get 5.3x, it does not toggle to 10.7x)

menu, camera 2, page 9, custom key, select center button

now toggle over to page 10, top line, select focus magnifier

press menu to get out of menu

2. set Initial Focus Mag. to x5.3

menu, camera 1, page 11, fourth line down is Initial Focus Mag. set it at x5.3

Done.

Now, the rear center button is Focus Magnifier, it is a toggle.

start in normal framing view 1.0x

1st press of rear center button jumps to 5.3x

2nd press of rear center button jumps to 10.7x.

3rd press, back to framing 1.0x

It works in all focus modes, EXCEPT AF-C

Note: if in MF, press rear center button, it magnifies 5.3x, but out of focus, you need to use the front ring to focus.

there is no point using the rear center button in MF, because you have to use the front ring to focus in MF, and if you have focus magnifier assist on, it magnifies 5.3x as you turn the front ring . Same thing, you can toggle from 5.3x to 10.7x by pressing the rear center button. It does not return to 1.0x, until you touch the shutter button half way, it returns to framing view 1.0x

Note: in DMF, it works, however I find it very awkward because you need to hold the half press, then press center button, it magnifies; then shoot, or optionally refine focus with front ring, and shoot.

DMF, like MF, simply turn the front ring, it jumps into 5.3x, either shoot or refine focus with the front ring, and shoot.

In DMF, using magnification, you cannot get back to normal framing view because you need to hold the half press. Release, back to framing view but AF is gone.

In MF, turn front ring, magnifion occurs, refine focus with front ring, then half press back to framing view to confirm or adjust your composition. The focus distance you set is held.

Leave it in MF, turn camera off, back on, it starts at the focus distance it was set when you turned it off.

Peaking Note: Peaking is to be used while magnified, you see the peaking color on the edges of the objects that will be in focus. You turn the front ring until the peaking color is on the edges of your subject, like the birds beak, wait, shoot whenever. When you half press to return to 1.0x framing view, peaking is a mess, ignore it, just confirm your framing and finish the shot, or, turn the front ring again to return to magnified view, leave prior distance, or refine it, wait, shoot whenever.

 

[borat21]

thanks but it does not really give you the workflow: 1. magnify, 2. autofocus, 3. release because it always jumps back in every mode.

 

[elliottnewcomb]

thanks but it does not really give you the workflow: 1. magnify, 2. autofocus, 3. release because it always jumps back in every mode.

At half press, the AF system get's engaged (except MF), and, as you noted, at half press it always returns to normal 1.0x framing view, including MF.

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Note: magnification powers 5.3x and 10.7x are for the rx100m6. The magnification powers may be different for the RX10m4, but the method is the same.

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I never knew it had this method of magnification feature, but, thinking about it:

Let's call it Pre-Magnification (prior to half-press, or prior to full press).

It is for people not using DMF or MF, i(t is not needed or intended for DMF or MF).

OK, what might we use this pre-magnification for?

View Magnified-Find-Wait-Shoot

I think it is so you can magnify, either 5.3x or 10.7x, see, view, find ____? (something you cannot see clearly at 1.0x).

Wait till a cloud or shadow moves, something stops moving, the bird turns it's head, something flies in front: time to take the shot. half press, or full press to finish the shot.

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In MF, the AF system is never involved. You turn the front ring to focus, magnification assist is automatically initiated when you turn the front ring, 5.3x. press center button to toggle to 10.7x.

MF: half press does not engage the AF system, it holds what you set with the front ring, It returns to normal framing view 1.0x at half press. You simply confirm your composition. Turn the front ring a speck, it magnifies again, wait, perhaps refine the focus, wait, take the shot. Of course you can simply set focus manually and shoot without waiting.

DMF is normal half press AF-S (part 1), with option to use MF refinement (part 2)

DMF, part 1, you half press, AF-S occurs as normally in framing view 1.0x. No magnification involved. You can simply finish the shot (just like using AF-S).

DMF OPTIONAL part 2: hold the half press, and turn the front ring, takes you to MF so you can quickly refine that AF-S focus distance with MF with magnification assist.

DMF can be faster than MF because initial half press the AF system gets the lens in position, and if refining using MF, only a very minor turn of the front ring, very minor lens movement is needed.

i.e. AF finds the birds head, you refine it for it's eye, very quickly. MF, it takes longer to rotate the front ring further in or out, to find the head, then find the eye, because AF-S has not occurred.

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Elliott