X-T10 or X-T1

[Simpliciter]

I'm on a budget so I have to address my shopping to the second hand market.

I've the chance to buy a Fuji X-T10 for 350 € or a X-T1 for 500. Both in excellent condition.

Anyway I'm undecided.

I'd like to go to the X-T10 and save the extra 150 to buy some lens. But the more "pro" body has an indisputable charm.

Any advice about the two bodies?

 

[Tusk24]

I was considering both models also and ended up going for the XT-1.

I'd highly recommend you hold both cameras in your hands and see how they sit with you.

I did this and felt the XT-10 was just too small for me and my hands are around average. The XT-1 is also a small camera but felt more substantial to hold and navigate with it's dials whereas the XT-10 has some menu diving to achieve similar settings. Your Mileage may vary ,however.

I've seen some excellent work taken with the XT-10 so could be fine if it "fits" with you.

Best of luck either way.

 

[Simpliciter]

Both cameras have the same sensor so i.q. should be the same.

I know that X-T10 is smaller but I'll use it (or the X-t1) only small primes, i.e. 27mm.
This means that size is not an issue for me.

Better menu navigation of the X-T1 is a very interesting point.

 

[Lettermanian]

I had the X-T10 for several months, then sold it and bought an X-T1. I'll highlight some of the differences that were valuable to me:

-Weather resistance. I had an issue with the X-T10 that needed repair work from Fuji, and I believe it would not have happened if I had had a wr body.

-Larger (and still beautiful) EVF. Makes a difference when using manual focus. With the X-T1 you can also have a "Digital Split Image" view in the EVF or on the LCD, as demonstrated in this youtube video

-Better (for me) ergonomics. The X-T1 has a better grip and overall better ergonomics for my preference.

- Battery grip option. Very good ergonomics if you end up getting longer lenses. There are aftermarket versions of the battery grip for cheap but have plastic pins instead of metal, and no weather resistance.

-Long firmware update history. Fuji seems to give its flagship models the most firmware updates as time goes on, giving the camera more capabilities. However, their lower models seem to get limited updates. The last update for the X-T1 was in May of this year, but the last X-T10 update was June 2016.

There are other differences too, but those were the ones that were important to me, and would definitely be worth the $150 Euro extra (if I lived in Europe). IQ is indeed arguably the same; the differences are mostly in the technical specs, construction, and ergonomics.

You really need to try to handle them yourself though to see which is most comfortable for you to use.

 

[Redblaz]

Hey! I was in your shoes moments ago. With around the same difference in price, if ergonomics aren't the deciding factor for you I'd go with the cheaper body.

I went with the X-T10, heres why:

- Cheaper, while not feeling cheap at all. (More money to spend on glass)

- Smaller, I'm downsizing from a D5100 and the X-T1 with equivalent lenses wasn't much smaller and only 120g lighter.

- I handled both in a shop, and didn't think I'd be unhappy with either options. The viewfinder on the X-T1 is better, but tbh it's hyped up!

- Weather resistance , I hike a lot in good and bad weather. Sure the extra peace of mind is great, but I've previously never owned a weather proof camera and never had issues. Be smart, don't shoot in a downpour, use a plastic bag and invest in a dry bag. Also see if the lenses you'll be wanting are WR, if not, your camera ain't sealed.

- Both will produce the same image quality as they are the same on the inside.

- Missing ISO dial? Program that extra Fn button to the dial and iso sorted, much simpler that the locking pin situation on the X-T1.

Factors where the X-T1 trumps:

- Higher burst rate

- Battery grip (if you need it)

- WR (From MPV not a necessity, but nice to have)

- All metal body (for when you can't find a hammer)

If nope of the above is a requirement, do you need the X-T1? No. Do you want it? Maybe. Only you can decide. Also note, both are rubbish for video, if you were wanting to go down that route, with your budget the sony A6000 is a safe bet. The Fuji X-T20 is an option as well, but a lot more obviously.

Check out this video, he compares them brilliantly, but still leaves the final decision to you:

Best of luck, try not to obsess over your choice too much, I know I did!

 

[cprevost]

Handle them both if you can. I originally owned the XT10 and ended up not liking it. I returned it for the XT1 which I liked way better. The XT10 just felt plasticky and cheap to me. The size of the XT1 just feels better in my hands. The viewfinder is also a big plus when I use manual focus lenses. The XT1 is a really nice camera to use. The ergonomics are great.

 

[Steelergeek69]

What about xe3 vs xt1?

 

[Steelergeek69]

I have the xt1 and seems every time I grab camera out if my bag the photometry switch moves and sometimes the drive switch. Maybe with the xe3 less button and so

 

[bs1946]

Under the hood, so to speak, there is little difference; same sensor, same processor, and possibly the same motherboard. Plus at least 90% of the same firmware and features, maybe more, are the same. So, with the same lens. you get the same image quality.

the X-T2 is the largest second generation X-Trans 16mp body and its biggest plus is the EVF, which is reputed to be the best EVF available, mainly because of the high magnification factor and huge eyepiece, which is no different in size to the one in my X-E2 or the X100T I had. Everything else is ergonomics and special features you may never use.

The X-T10 is at the opposite end. It is the smallest second generation X-Trans 16mp body. There are less dials and knobs for control and the buttons are smaller and fewer. It's big features are the drive mode dial, which until now,only comes on XA/XM bodies, and the auto scene button which the Fuji guys tout as great for handing someone else your camera to take a photo of you; just before they run off with your camera :-D

 

[Paul Farace]

The XT1 is much better to use than its smaller, cheaper brother... image systems being equal, the build quality of the XT1 carries the day, imho.

 

[Redblaz]

Also think if you *need* the better build quality? Or would rather have that extra 150 to put towards your next lens?

And when you have a nice lens collection that suits your shooting style further down the line, and the camera body is now the limitation.

Bag yourself a used/refurbished X-T2/X-T20.

Or whatever iteration they'll be on then.

 

[StuartBell]

I have both; I use both, I love both.

x-t10 for lightness, especially with small primes;

x-t1 for serious photography-centred travels, and with larger lenses.

IMHO grips are irrelevant; I have extra ones for both, typically $20.

IMHO the only significant differences are:

EVF - but the X-t10's is fine

Size - the X-t10 is wonderfully light with small primes, but may be too small for some hands.

4-way controller on back panel, I use this to move focus point, and it's far easier on the X-t10, because the buttons are flush on the X-t1.

Stuart.

 

[Threaded]

4-way controller on back panel, I use this to move focus point, and it's far easier on the X-t10, because the buttons are flush on the X-t1.

In fairness I’ve not used the XT10, I do have an X-Pro1 though and I find the four way buttons on the XT1 fine in comparison, in fact I’m not sure that I don’t prefer them a bit. I have a late serial XT1 though and my theory is they improved them quite a bit over the production run - I know there were many complaints of them being “mushy” and hard to find in the original reviews, whereas the buttons on mine are well defined and have a very positive, clicky feel.

I can see the attraction to the XT10 - size, price and having the (albeit tiny) flash always available - but as a glasses wearer the EVF kills it for me. Plus I really like the sturdiness of the XT1, it’s very solidly made while still being small and light; despite its age it’s still obvious why it was a flagship camera at launch.

 

[vegetaleb]

There are no major difference between these 2, personally I took the X-T10 because it had a great offer and the small size was not a problem for my hands (even though I have long fingers) the X-T10 is more perhaps ''cute'' while the only X-T1 I would consider today is a graphite one.

 

[Threaded]

There are no major difference between these 2

“Major” is very subjective, there are certainly notable differences and whether they’re major to you (or add up to something major) is personal choice.

One thing not mentioned yet is the larger amount of RAM in the XT1, which delivers a much deeper buffer in burst mode (8 jpegs vs 47 jpegs in CH according to Fuji’s spec sheet) - this can be useful especially if you’re trying to track action. Worth noting that the internal electronics are not identical, at least in this case.

 

[klayking]

I had both and sold xt10. I have some legacy lens I want to use and the evf makes huge difference and it is much more enjoyable.

There only two things xt10 is better, cheap and small. The biggest draw back is you might want something in xt1 later and you need to upgrade. Who knows. After realizing that, go with xt1 is an easy decision and I am happy with it.

 

[dudewithcamera]

XT1. People will constantly say otherwise, but weather resistance is not a gimmick. It's a real feature that really works and lets you use the camera in conditions you couldn't have otherwise used it in. You can't pick the weather at your destination, but you can pick the camera you'll take there.

 

[Pan50]

I have the XT1 and love love love this camera. The build is exceptional and it's a fair bit bigger than the XT10 which I like. Add a battery pack and you're flying!

 

[Lettermanian]

XT1. People will constantly say otherwise, but weather resistance is not a gimmick. It's a real feature that really works and lets you use the camera in conditions you couldn't have otherwise used it in. You can't pick the weather at your destination, but you can pick the camera you'll take there.

^^ This. My X-T10 was at Fuji repair for three weeks because a bit of blowing sand got in while shooting a sunset on a nice evening at the beach. Could I have used a rain cover? Sure. Did I think to bring one on a nice summer evening? No. Like I said in my previous reply, you get a lot more camera for the relatively small price difference. Search the used market to save that $150 on lenses.

 

[dudewithcamera]

XT1. People will constantly say otherwise, but weather resistance is not a gimmick. It's a real feature that really works and lets you use the camera in conditions you couldn't have otherwise used it in. You can't pick the weather at your destination, but you can pick the camera you'll take there.

^^ This. My X-T10 was at Fuji repair for three weeks because a bit of blowing sand got in while shooting a sunset on a nice evening at the beach. Could I have used a rain cover? Sure. Did I think to bring one on a nice summer evening? No. Like I said in my previous reply, you get a lot more camera for the relatively small price difference. Search the used market to save that $150 on lenses.

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and give me life in your ways." - Psalm 119:37

Yup. I spend a lot of my camera time near water and near or on a beach. It's just where I happen to be on weekends most of the summer. To me it's a must-have feature. I've also lost an entire day of shooting on a vacation to France before, in one of the most interesting towns on my itinerary, because of rain. After that I was a convert. Almost went Pentax but ended up with an XT1 and a 35/2 and I could not be happier with the decision. The WR has already bailed me out once, on a planned trip to NYC where it just so happened to be a 24-hour downpour during my visit. XT1 was with me all day and took the stormy weather in stride.