Nikon D850 first look vs D800E

[Arash31]

I wrote a blog on my experience since upgrading from my beloved Nikon D800E that I have had since 2012 to the new Nikon D850. You can find the review here: https://business.yocale.com/nikon-d850-vs-nikon-d800e-d800-review-5-reasons-why-i-upgraded/

Although this blog is not a full review but it discusses the reasons that the upgrade was worthwhile for me. In addition I found some nuances that ruined few pictures for me in the couple of events that I took the camera to for the first time and how you can fix it (it's behavioural changes). All in all so far happy and hope you guys find the blog useful. I'll add to the review as I play more.

 

[Andycnv]

Thanks for sharing, nice thoughts.

 

[Juerg]

what is a professional hobbyist???

 

[soloryb]

Why worry about it when WB is easy to alter to your heart's content during post using just about any editing program?

I recently read a D850 test/review about dynamic range and I think it said the D810 had a slightly larger range.

Two extra stops is 4 times the light gathering ability - which is huge.

How do you like that tilt screen? For sharpness nuts, using the screen electronic contrast difference focus, that should prove to be a blessing. I currently shoot a D800E and make huge prints - so I'm with you in the sharpness nut category.

Thanks for your thoughts,

soloryb

 

[Arash31]

Why worry about it when WB is easy to alter to your heart's content during post using just about any editing program?

I recently read a D850 test/review about dynamic range and I think it said the D810 had a slightly larger range.

Two extra stops is 4 times the light gathering ability - which is huge.

How do you like that tilt screen? For sharpness nuts, using the screen electronic contrast difference focus, that should prove to be a blessing. I currently shoot a D800E and make huge prints - so I'm with you in the sharpness nut category.

Thanks for your thoughts,

soloryb

Thx for the comments. For the WB....I maybe lazy, but I think it's too much work for the amount of pictures I take to keep adjusting in post.

The thing about the two extra stop is that I tried it with the faster lens to see how it would perform....but it doesn't just seem to be about the two stops. I will share some photos to showcase.

As for the tilt screen....haven't really found much use for it yet. However, like mentioned I don't like the delay for preview. I do think the touch screen is cool though for picture preview.

 

[Arash31]

what is a professional hobbyist???

haha...someone who has a lot of gears, and takes lots of photos but as a hobby

 

[jshen808]

Why worry about it when WB is easy to alter to your heart's content during post using just about any editing program?

I recently read a D850 test/review about dynamic range and I think it said the D810 had a slightly larger range.

Two extra stops is 4 times the light gathering ability - which is huge.

How do you like that tilt screen? For sharpness nuts, using the screen electronic contrast difference focus, that should prove to be a blessing. I currently shoot a D800E and make huge prints - so I'm with you in the sharpness nut category.

Thanks for your thoughts,

soloryb

Thx for the comments. For the WB....I maybe lazy, but I think it's too much work for the amount of pictures I take to keep adjusting in post.

The thing about the two extra stop is that I tried it with the faster lens to see how it would perform....but it doesn't just seem to be about the two stops. I will share some photos to showcase.

As for the tilt screen....haven't really found much use for it yet. However, like mentioned I don't like the delay for preview. I do think the touch screen is cool though for picture preview.

..in all honesty.. sounds like a D7500 camera might be your ticket.. matrix metering, picture control "auto", active d-lighting "auto", white balance "auto2" (keeping warm colours).. and you're all set..

..Best wishes..

 

[PaulBearer]

They always seem to have the best gear, in mint condition, and low shutter counts

 

[soloryb]

Why worry about it when WB is easy to alter to your heart's content during post using just about any editing program?

I recently read a D850 test/review about dynamic range and I think it said the D810 had a slightly larger range.

Two extra stops is 4 times the light gathering ability - which is huge.

How do you like that tilt screen? For sharpness nuts, using the screen electronic contrast difference focus, that should prove to be a blessing. I currently shoot a D800E and make huge prints - so I'm with you in the sharpness nut category.

Thanks for your thoughts,

soloryb

Thx for the comments. For the WB....I maybe lazy, but I think it's too much work for the amount of pictures I take to keep adjusting in post.

The thing about the two extra stop is that I tried it with the faster lens to see how it would perform....but it doesn't just seem to be about the two stops. I will share some photos to showcase.

As for the tilt screen....haven't really found much use for it yet. However, like mentioned I don't like the delay for preview. I do think the touch screen is cool though for picture preview.

There are many automatic/preset ways you can set the WB in both LR and PS. I think you can also do this in the camera, but I don't own a D850.

If WB is important enough for you to post about the problem, you can take a little time and find out how to automatically accomplish this. It's not rocket science and it is certainly not much work.

soloryb

 

[Arash31]

Why worry about it when WB is easy to alter to your heart's content during post using just about any editing program?

I recently read a D850 test/review about dynamic range and I think it said the D810 had a slightly larger range.

Two extra stops is 4 times the light gathering ability - which is huge.

How do you like that tilt screen? For sharpness nuts, using the screen electronic contrast difference focus, that should prove to be a blessing. I currently shoot a D800E and make huge prints - so I'm with you in the sharpness nut category.

Thanks for your thoughts,

soloryb

Thx for the comments. For the WB....I maybe lazy, but I think it's too much work for the amount of pictures I take to keep adjusting in post.

The thing about the two extra stop is that I tried it with the faster lens to see how it would perform....but it doesn't just seem to be about the two stops. I will share some photos to showcase.

As for the tilt screen....haven't really found much use for it yet. However, like mentioned I don't like the delay for preview. I do think the touch screen is cool though for picture preview.

There are many automatic/preset ways you can set the WB in both LR and PS. I think you can also do this in the camera, but I don't own a D850.

If WB is important enough for you to post about the problem, you can take a little time and find out how to automatically accomplish this. It's not rocket science and it is certainly not much work.

soloryb

i know how to change the WB automatically both in the camera and in post. What i said was that I don't have to do that with the new D850 and that's my preference. The other thing I said is that the white balance for the prior bodies I found to be off mostly in low light situations and not in all....so when you are downloading 500 pictures you can't just say apply this setting to all 500 hence adding another step. I didn't say it's rocket science...this was meant to be a comparison article...it's like saying that you can sharpen all your pictures in post....that's irrelevant if the one body shoots shaper than the other.

 

[mitsosmitsou]

what is a professional hobbyist???

It's one level above pro.

 

[Focus Shift Shooting]

what is a professional hobbyist???

It's one level above pro.

That is absolutely correct!

A pro is someone who is better at making marketing themselves than others. It has almost nothing to do with their actual talent. They could make money with a D40 and a kit lens.

A professional hobbyist is someone who makes enough money to buy better gear than most professionals can afford. 1 level above pro.

 

[caspianm]

Unheard of!

 

[Andrew53]

I am cursed with being fussy about color. Simply adjusting the WB in post rarely works for my D800e or my Sony Cameras. It usually works for my Canon but not always. Canon has far from perfect color, but it does tend to be more consistent and easier to adjust with the WB controls alone.

There technical reasons for this, mostly due to tone choices and sensor RGB filter choices made by the manufacturer. Color accuracy can be tuned for daylight or artificial light. It is very difficult to get them both accurate. Canon has chosen to tune their filters for more pleasing skin tones under artificial light. This is a big reason why Canon dominates the wedding market and so may Nikon wedding pictures either have artificial color or are in black and white. The D850 seems to have taken a different path than previous Nikon cameras.

Sadly, white balance isn't the entire story, I wish it were because getting the colors to match or be pleasing using different cameras drives me crazy.