"Powershot" M100

[justmeMN]

A snapshot oriented camera with an APS-C sensor and Dual Pixel CMOS AF, for less than the price of G7 X Mark II. Sounds interesting, at least to me.

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[rwl408]

If the rumored G1X III isn't full APS-C sensor, I may replace G1X with it.

 

[damian5000]

Looks good to me too. Just, with the dim kit lens, IQ isn't going to be much, if any better than g7x, and will be far less compact.

 

[rpm40]

Looks good to me too. Just, with the dim kit lens, IQ isn't going to be much, if any better than g7x, and will be far less compact.

Depends, it should be better in good light, but I agree that the big sensor advantage is lost with a slow lens when light levels drop.

That's the problem with the M line for now- a decently fast zoom for the system isn't available, and you can adapt something, but then it will be totally huge and unbalanced.

I'd really like the g1x iii to go for the gusto, and offer the biggest possible sensor in a fixed lens camera to maintain balance and compact-ish size.

 

[RA40]

I'm really hoping that the G1X-III ticks my preference boxes this time around. The M system is good though we have to trade some features for the size. Even so I still can enjoy using the older G9 and 15 at times but I'm becoming less flexible lately.

 

[YWG]

A snapshot oriented camera with an APS-C sensor and Dual Pixel CMOS AF, for less than the price of G7 X Mark II. Sounds interesting, at least to me.

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/...ital-cameras/eos-m100-ef-m-15-45mm-is-stm-kit

Yeah, but this is the compact forum so I think there will be bias against the size of this set up.

What I wonder is if DPAF is noticeably superior to the mkii single AF acquisition time and CAF. Also, for the equivalent 24-72 mm overlap, is the M100 kit lens sharper, have less distortion or other IQ impacts? At 24mm, the mkii is 2 stops faster and probably that or a bit more at the long end of the 15-45mm. I'd say the only really compact setup is the 22mm so you need to like that focal length and the limitations with shooting.

Currently I run something similar in size to the m100 -an Olympus EPM2 with either a 12-32mm F3.5-5.6 or 20mm F1.7. It gives superior detail to that of the G7x/G5x lens but shorter focal length, slower zoom lens and larger. It gets left in my bag or at home at times because of this in favour of a nice smartphone or smaller sensor compact like the S90.

 

[damian5000]

Right. I'm often leaving even my G7X at home unless an important occasion. The phone camera good enough for most well lit situations.

 

[KeepCalm]

A snapshot oriented camera with an APS-C sensor and Dual Pixel CMOS AF, for less than the price of G7 X Mark II. Sounds interesting, at least to me.

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/...ital-cameras/eos-m100-ef-m-15-45mm-is-stm-kit

Yeah, but this is the compact forum so I think there will be bias against the size of this set up.

Not really bias as it is the whole purpose of the forum and EOS-M is not really relevant and seems a bit of a lame duck system anyway.

 

[Kung Fu]

A snapshot oriented camera with an APS-C sensor and Dual Pixel CMOS AF, for less than the price of G7 X Mark II. Sounds interesting, at least to me.

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/...ital-cameras/eos-m100-ef-m-15-45mm-is-stm-kit

To me, APS-C mirrorless ILC cameras with small bodies don't make sense when you consider the lenses. F/2.8 and faster lenses are just too big, which is why the kits are all slow zooms, and the few primes are a couple of mediocre pancakes.

M4/3 is where lens size starts to become somewhat reasonable in relation to body size, but the real sweet spot IMO is the 1" sensor. You get fast lenses for exposure purposes, tiny overall size, and "good enough" IQ in any conditions I shoot in.

tl;dr I have zero interest in Canon EOS-M.

 

[requa]

Tempting at first, until I remembered one of the main reasons I moved from EOS to PowerShot in the first place. I lack self-control. I'd rather not get into an interchangeable-lens system again and start thinking, "If I only had that one additional lens."

 

[Lightgreen]

The 22 f/2 is not a slow lens. But, it's the only fast, native lens. The 35 equivalence is the first, and last thing, alot of photographers need though. A shame the M100 doesn't come with a 22 kit option like the original M did. It'd sell like hotcakes. The 15-45 isn't a bad 2nd option though...

 

[Lightgreen]

Having owned all the above (except the new M100, but, I own the M5 which shares the same sensor), the DPAF is vastly superior to the CDAF of the G1X II, which has good CDAF I might add btw.

The IQ on the wide end of the 15-45 is superior to the IQ of the G1X II on the wide end. But yes, the G1X II on the wide end is alot faster, and thus alot more "useful". The G1X III should be a good filler to answer both, I hope.

 

[Lightgreen]

Lame duck got cured with DPAF and DIGIC7 late last year.

Expensive got cured with the M100 just now.

Lack of optics is still a problem. G1X III should be best of all worlds; DPAF+DIGIC7, not expensive (for what it is, that is a M6 with 24-120 lens probably), and decent optics (I consider 24-120 f/4-9 a decent optical equivalence compared to the EF-M's f/5.6-10 "standard", that makes the G1X III a full stop faster, with an all-in-one lens too).