Lesson learned, observations

[KCHAWK]

After a 26 day toour about the British Isles I returned home to the nightmare of organizing, sorting, purging and post processing photos. On the trip I had my LX7, ZS25, and galaxy S6 phone.

1. TheLX7 was most used, followed by the phone. Sharing day to day experiences with family and friends very important. So many LX7 photos repeated on the phone. Need wifi on camera.

2. Foot zooming with the LX more fun that telephoto with ZS. Just me.

3. A good photo might not become great if the photo has a basic flaw, like out of level, severe blown highlights, etc, etc.

4. Keep cameras out of rain. My LX7 got some moisture on it in Derry and that led to massive worry, but eventually cleared up.

5. Travel tours are not necessarily photo friendly. It is inevitable that people can get in the way, it is easy to get separaated if you stop to get the "perfect photo." If we go on another group tour I won't expect great photo experiences, just great travel. But if I find a place I want to spend time in for photos I may need to return on my own and hopefully there will be a huge shopping experience nearby for my wife.

6. Days of the digital camera, at least for consumer cameras, seem numbered, On our tour of 40, I counted 2 DSLR, 1 Bridge Camera, 3 very small P&S, and many phones. And we were mostly seniors. At Stonehenge I saw a few DSLR carried by young folks, but many phones. So many selfies.




Today's typical travel photogapher.

7. After a short experience with Lightroom I have come to the conclusion that I have been over processing photos in PSE. I hope to avaoid PSE except when absolutely needed.

Just my thoughts after 26 days of many photos.





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Larry
Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape

 

[Satyaa]

After a 26 day toour about the British Isles I returned home to the nightmare of organizing, sorting, purging and post processing photos. On the trip I had my LX7, ZS25, and galaxy S6 phone.

1. TheLX7 was most used, followed by the phone. Sharing day to day experiences with family and friends very important. So many LX7 photos repeated on the phone. Need wifi on camera.

2. Foot zooming with the LX more fun that telephoto with ZS. Just me.

3. A good photo might not become great if the photo has a basic flaw, like out of level, severe blown highlights, etc, etc.

4. Keep cameras out of rain. My LX7 got some moisture on it in Derry and that led to massive worry, but eventually cleared up.

5. Travel tours are not necessarily photo friendly. It is inevitable that people can get in the way, it is easy to get separaated if you stop to get the "perfect photo." If we go on another group tour I won't expect great photo experiences, just great travel. But if I find a place I want to spend time in for photos I may need to return on my own and hopefully there will be a huge shopping experience nearby for my wife.

This is where I find the zoom useful. If you don't have the time to find the best position for your shot, sometimes zoom can help.

6. Days of the digital camera, at least for consumer cameras, seem numbered, On our tour of 40, I counted 2 DSLR, 1 Bridge Camera, 3 very small P&S, and many phones. And we were mostly seniors. At Stonehenge I saw a few DSLR carried by young folks, but many phones. So many selfies.


Today's typical travel photogapher.

7. After a short experience with Lightroom I have come to the conclusion that I have been over processing photos in PSE. I hope to avaoid PSE except when absolutely needed.

I sometimes feel that way but can't pin down where the issue is. Would you to see if you can share an example or two.

Just my thoughts after 26 days of many photos.

--
Larry
Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape

All good points. Thanks for sharing.

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[SpeedyGonzalys]

After a 26 day toour about the British Isles I returned home to the nightmare of organizing, sorting, purging and post processing photos. On the trip I had my LX7, ZS25, and galaxy S6 phone.

1. TheLX7 was most used, followed by the phone. Sharing day to day experiences with family and friends very important. So many LX7 photos repeated on the phone. Need wifi on camera.

2. Foot zooming with the LX more fun that telephoto with ZS. Just me.

3. A good photo might not become great if the photo has a basic flaw, like out of level, severe blown highlights, etc, etc.

4. Keep cameras out of rain. My LX7 got some moisture on it in Derry and that led to massive worry, but eventually cleared up.

5. Travel tours are not necessarily photo friendly.

100 agree

It is inevitable that people can get in the way,

100% agree

it is easy to get separaated if you stop to get the "perfect photo."

ssstttt... agree 100% ;-)

If we go on another group tour I won't expect great photo experiences, just great travel.

Dont agree, with a tour you see ALLOT in a verry small window slot. no planing, (almost) no unexpected things, no waiting ques!! for entrance, trains, buses etc etc.

But if I find a place I want to spend time in for photos I may need to return on my own and hopefully there will be a huge shopping experience nearby for my wife.

6. Days of the digital camera, at least for consumer cameras, seem numbered, On our tour of 40, I counted 2 DSLR, 1 Bridge Camera, 3 very small P&S, and many phones. And we were mostly seniors. At Stonehenge I saw a few DSLR carried by young folks, but many phones. So many selfies.


Today's typical travel photogapher.

Lol, yes this is a "typical" tourist picture. Guess what. My brother came back from few weeks Africa savanna. Seen leopards, lions, rhino, gazelle, hippo's, eagles, monkeys, vulgers , you name it, and it was there..

Now guess what the MOST asked question was?????

IS THERE WIFI HERE??? !!!!!

Peter

7. After a short experience with Lightroom I have come to the conclusion that I have been over processing photos in PSE. I hope to avaoid PSE except when absolutely needed.

Just my thoughts after 26 days of many photos.

--
Larry
Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape

--
I'm not a bad guy, just honest...

 

[skyglider]

After a 26 day toour about the British Isles I returned home to the nightmare of organizing, sorting, purging and post processing photos. On the trip I had my LX7, ZS25, and galaxy S6 phone.

Just my thoughts after 26 days of many photos.

Maybe add another thing:

Be sure to set the date and time for the travel destination on all cameras and smart phones. Especially if a spouse is also taking pictures.

When culling photos after the trip, load photos from all cameras into one folder. Then sorting by date and time will have photos from the different cameras in correct chronological order. Photos taken at each site visited by the different cameras will be grouped together and culling is much easier.

Sky

 

[windmillgolfer]

Hi Larry, that's a very long tour and must've been quite exhausting. For organised tours we usually do 6 to 8 days in Italy/Spain, with circa 2 half days to please ourselves but the rest is non-stop. Agreed, serious photography is difficult, separation is always a risk, at 5ft my wife can disappear in the blink of an eye ;-) Gave up trying to shoot through the windows of a moving coach - just a waste of time - better to enjoy the view.

Mobile phone cameras are getting better, not to mention the iPad, and perfect for the casual snapper. On organised tours, usually flying, I take two cameras, necessary for a degree of back-up, the LX7 plus TZ60 is a combo I've used with little overlap/duplication of images. The phone camera is only used for the odd selfie (with wife) and food. For Italy (Florence and Pisa) in September I'm thinking GF7 with 7-14mm and 12-60mm , plus TZ60. Belt case(s), holding camera, spare batteries and cards, plus min tripod (for poor light in Duomos, etc).

Sifting, deleting and processing usually takes me longer than the trip. If an image needs work, I first try PSE's Adjustable Smart Fix or Nik Colour Efex, resorting to Topaz Detail and cloning/editing in exceptional cases.

 

[Gal Root]

There's a reason everyone uses the phones. They are just that good right now.
If it weren't for the zoom, I would have never think to buy a camera again. At around 25mm, the photos from my phones 90% look better than from the FZ1000 or my previous 60D. They handle different scenarios much better than normal cameras. Sure, if you're going to PP , you will find more detail in photos from the the bigger cameras but when looking at the whole photo... Phones will produce better image (of course you can post process the RAW file and achieve better results but out of the device, phones do better).
Smooth bokeh is something you can't achieve with the phone but now the fake bokeh is really improving and as long as you don't get crazy with it, you can already get very usable results, and it will just get better.
Macro is already amazing on mobile phones.
I take great low light shots with my phone with exposure up to 30 seconds (with a tiny and mobile tripod & remote).
Also, I can shoot RAW and edit on the go quickly. I don't get why Panasonic prevents sending RAW to the phone via the app... stupid decision.
So.. it's just zoom that is missing.. once they solve zoom, I don't think I'll use a camera again. It might take few years but we'll get there.

 

[Gal Root]

That's an important tip.

 

[SpeedyGonzalys]

After a 26 day toour about the British Isles I returned home to the nightmare of organizing, sorting, purging and post processing photos. On the trip I had my LX7, ZS25, and galaxy S6 phone.

Just my thoughts after 26 days of many photos.

Maybe add another thing:

Be sure to set the date and time for the travel destination on all cameras and smart phones. Especially if a spouse is also taking pictures.

When culling photos after the trip, load photos from all cameras into one folder. Then sorting by date and time will have photos from the different cameras in correct chronological order. Photos taken at each site visited by the different cameras will be grouped together and culling is much easier.

Sky

ABSOLUTELY!!!! right, forgot once... and never again ... i hope!!

GOOD tip!

Peter