Softboxes for Food Photography

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I'm looking for some recommendations for the ideal softboxes for a three strobe light setup for food photography. I'd be interested to hear what people suggest in terms of size and make of softbox for the three strobes... do certain brands provide better light than others for example and what is the maximum and minimum size required.

I'm looking at relatively close up rather than wide shots...
 
You could just start with umbrellas. Shoot through and regular ones. One over the food as fill , the other as as main at a 45 degree angle from behind or side I don't front light food on a plate.

It depends on the lighting effect you need. Hard, soft... Ive even used a Beauty dish to bring out texture. So I imagine you'll collect a few tools to creat the light needed.

Ive used soft boxes, umbrellas, barn doors, Beauty dishes. You name it. Reflectors galor white, silver, gray, black even mirrors.

Id start with umbrellas and a lot of practice and research.

My last shoot was for chocolates, brownies... for a confectionary in Australia. Gold Coast.
 
Thanks Don,

I guess I'm trying to avoid buying kit now that may potentially end up gathering dust later, plus I think the light from a softbox is going to give a better overall result, so I figured I'd start as I mean to go on, using softboxes...

That's not to say I don't need to do lots and lots of practice of course, so may as well practice with kit I plan to use moving forward...
 
Thanks Don,

I guess I'm trying to avoid buying kit now that may potentially end up gathering dust later, plus I think the light from a softbox is going to give a better overall result, so I figured I'd start as I mean to go on, using softboxes...

That's not to say I don't need to do lots and lots of practice of course, so may as well practice with kit I plan to use moving forward...
Just food for thought... :-)

Start easy and see where you go. You can get inexpensive softboxes off Amazon. Size does matter.

Read this thread in the link. Look at this guys umbrella only FOOD SHOOT and video BTS if you think an umbrella won't meet the need.

umbrella and "softbox" feature

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1479022&page=1
 
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Thanks Don, I'll take a look... seems like there is really no right or wrong answer, more a case of experimenting perhaps...
 
Thanks Don, I'll take a look... seems like there is really no right or wrong answer, more a case of experimenting perhaps...
Precisely. He wanted to shoot with his Elinchrom litemotive boxes but had no room. So went with umbrellas with difuser. Nice lighting. I actually recently upgraded by umbrella to these Elinchrom deep umbrellas and diffusers. My old umbrellas are retired. 20 years old now.
 
I hope your old umbrellas have some nice travel plans for their retirement... :-) Sounds like they deserve break after 20 years of service...
 
I hope your old umbrellas have some nice travel plans for their retirement... :-) Sounds like they deserve break after 20 years of service...
Lol. Ive used Savage medium weight Translum paper on product pics too. Excellent difuser. I like to snoot or barn door a strobe, feather the light on the Translum to get really nice light falloff on the image. $50USD for a large roll.
 
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You write, correctly, >>seems like there is really no right or wrong answer, more a case of experimenting perhaps...<<

Go buy a copy of Saveur.

Look at every food photograph in it for a couple of minutes each.

BAK
 
Hi Don,

The Translum paper looks interesting and not so expensive either... looks like another item for my every expanding shopping list...
 
Just buy what you need for the picture you want to take.

If later you want to take a different kind of picture, then buy the equipment you need for that picture.

If you are serious about food photography, you need two stoves and a blow-torch.

BAK
 
Yes, you can use any kind of lighting you like. Heck, even just nice window light is a great option. Some even prefer it. But your at the mercy of mother nature and of course can only shoot when it daylight and bright outside.

When I first started, I assisted for the guy who shot all the food photography for Olive Garden and Red Lobster. Did other food as well but those were the two most well known ones. His "go to" modifier was always a large softbox. Large meaning 4' by 6'. Powered ny two 2000 watt lamp heads. Back then we only shot large format so you needed the power.

Today, lighting for food is all over the place. But light to a photographer is like brushes to a painter. Which one(s) you use is up to you. And even HOW you use it. Sure, I could say "Use a large softbox". Ok. Where? On top? Off to one side? How close? How far away? Long ways or short ways? Angled? On it's side? And of course this is true with any modifier you choose to use.

To me, there is no better way to learn lighting than to use a diffusion panel/scrim. People like California Sunbounce make these. However, prefab ones are very expensive. You can make them easily yourself. The most common way is to make the frame out of PVC pipes. Common sizes are 4' x 6' or 3 1/2' x 6 1/2'. The pipes come in 10 foot lengths so you use 2 and cut them down and join together with elbows. Then simply cover with some kind of diffusion material like ripstop nylon or any translucent material.

Why do I always suggest these? Because now you have complete control over the diffusion and placememnt of the lighting. The light and modifier are separate so you can play around with the distance of each independently. You can play with the distance of the panel in relation to the subject and then play with the distance of the light source in relation to the panel. With a softbox, it's one complete unit. You can't move the light in a softbox to a different position. Or with an umbrella. It has to stay where you mount it. Well, you can move the umbrella a little closer or further away from the light by sliding the shaft, but thats not a lot and the light is still in the same place. Not so when using a panel. I can place the light in the top area and create a nice fall off. I can bring it close to make that area brighter and let the light fall off faster. Or I can back it off and create one really large soft light. And I can do this with the panel at any position.

And you can make this panel for under $50 or so. Depends on the materials you decide to use.

Also, the key to food is the styling of the food itself. I don't care how nice the lighting is. If the food is not styled well, it won't look good.
 
Hi Mike,

Thanks for you advice and yes, I am planning to make my own scrims having seen plenty of You Tubers doing just that and like you say, not expensive. Very relevant point you make about how they give you so much more control over the lighting...

I think so much is down to experimentation and tweaking until you are happy with the end result.

You are definitely not wrong about food styling, having just attended a food styling course at the Le Cordon Bleu school in London and experienced first hand just how hard it is but how important it is too.

Early days and a lot to learn for me, but I'm a big believer in learning by doing, there is only so much you can learn watching others on YouTube.
 

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