The new AF-P 10-20mm is changing my decision.

[Gilbert D]

Nikon just announced it. Price: $309.95, Weight: 230g

I think about upgrading for a long time. Before the AF-P 10-20 announcement, I was like

- 60% going to Fuji X-T20. Their lenses line up pretty good, although expensive.

- 25% going to Canon EOS M5. The 22mm f2 and 11-22mm are quite attractive, but not so much on standard to mid telephoto lenses.

- 10% Nikon D5500 dual lens kit. A lot cheaper than previous two, but UWA lens are all pretty heavy (>400g) to me. Getting wider than 18mm becomes heavy. D5500 also has only one dial, and the tiny OVF, and may have issue to focus the 35mm f1.8 lens precisely in certain light condition.

- 5% wait for D7500, but I think the weight is a concern for me. I feel my D90 is heavy these days. I'm getting old.

Now the D5500 dual lens kit just jump to the top. I can fulfill my UWA dream with minimum cost and light weight with DX now, although with compromise. I have 4 more days to decide...

Thanks for reading.

 

[trenzterra]

Indeed. I have a tokina 11-20mm but it is a little on the heavy side for travelling with the d7200. Thinking that the 10-20mm would make a good travel kit. There's three stops of OIS so the loss of aperture would be somewhat mitigated

 

[johncecilian]

well the latest 5500 deal is a great deal for sure. And there is nothing wrong with the 18-55 VR kit lens. It is the AFP version so it focuses very fast, and the 5500 really has excellent image quality. People complain about not having two command dials but I don't find it an issue. You get a touch screen, and if you shoot in aperture priority and use the auto ISO which is great, it is not a problem to not have two command dials front and back. If the form factor is what you want then you should be happy with it I think...It is not "Merely" a beginner's DSLR. Great images, very quick AF good dynamic range and excellent high ISO what is not to like? I have used everything from the 810 to a sony a7rII and a Leica Q and this camera from Nikon is super fun, it is light but sturdy and doesn't cause any frustration in usage that I can tell.

 

[klavrack]

If its IQ is anywhere near as good as the other AF-P lenses, I'm delighted to add it to my D5600 kit.

Nikon just announced it. Price: $309.95, Weight: 230g

I think about upgrading for a long time. Before the AF-P 10-20 announcement, I was like

- 60% going to Fuji X-T20. Their lenses line up pretty good, although expensive.

- 25% going to Canon EOS M5. The 22mm f2 and 11-22mm are quite attractive, but not so much on standard to mid telephoto lenses.

- 10% Nikon D5500 dual lens kit. A lot cheaper than previous two, but UWA lens are all pretty heavy (>400g) to me. Getting wider than 18mm becomes heavy. D5500 also has only one dial, and the tiny OVF, and may have issue to focus the 35mm f1.8 lens precisely in certain light condition.

- 5% wait for D7500, but I think the weight is a concern for me. I feel my D90 is heavy these days. I'm getting old.

Now the D5500 dual lens kit just jump to the top. I can fulfill my UWA dream with minimum cost and light weight with DX now, although with compromise. I have 4 more days to decide...

Thanks for reading.

 

[btonetbone]

I bought the D5500 two-lens kit a few weeks ago and love it. I did end up selling the 70-300mm locally and bought the VR version of it.

But I'm curious about this new wide angle lens. I literally have a brand new Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 lens arriving at my doorstep this afternoon. I debated between the Sigma and Tokina before decided the Sigma was a better fit for me. But now I'm wondering if maybe a pulled the trigger a hair early, yet I don't know what I'm missing. Yes, the Sigma appears to have some chromatic aberration in the corners (I'm hoping this got tweaked or is not present on all of them) and is slightly heavier. And yes, the AF-P has the new motor system and VR, but I don't plan on doing much non-microphoned video so that doesn't matter a ton. But the Nikon is a slower lens, which does matter for low light and night sky shots. I was able to get a brand-new USA version of the Sigma for around $420 with a whole bunch of goodies (some crappy filters, a blower, a questionable-quality camera bag, etc).

Should I have buyer's remorse and wait for this Nikkor to get tested? Or should I plow forward with my Sigma? Or did I make a mistake in the beginning by not going Tokina?

 

[trenzterra]

I bought the D5500 two-lens kit a few weeks ago and love it. I did end up selling the 70-300mm locally and bought the VR version of it.

But I'm curious about this new wide angle lens. I literally have a brand new Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 lens arriving at my doorstep this afternoon. I debated between the Sigma and Tokina before decided the Sigma was a better fit for me. But now I'm wondering if maybe a pulled the trigger a hair early, yet I don't know what I'm missing. Yes, the Sigma appears to have some chromatic aberration in the corners (I'm hoping this got tweaked or is not present on all of them) and is slightly heavier. And yes, the AF-P has the new motor system and VR, but I don't plan on doing much non-microphoned video so that doesn't matter a ton. But the Nikon is a slower lens, which does matter for low light and night sky shots. I was able to get a brand-new USA version of the Sigma for around $420 with a whole bunch of goodies (some crappy filters, a blower, a questionable-quality camera bag, etc).

Should I have buyer's remorse and wait for this Nikkor to get tested? Or should I plow forward with my Sigma? Or did I make a mistake in the beginning by not going Tokina?

 

[Jim Hess]

Sorry that I have to ask. The Nikon website indicates that these AF-P are only partially compatible with the D7100/D7200 and other Nikon models. What does that mean? What features work, and what features don't work?

 

[trenzterra]

Sorry that I have to ask. The Nikon website indicates that these AF-P are only partially compatible with the D7100/D7200 and other Nikon models. What does that mean? What features work, and what features don't work?

VR cannot be switched off. May be an issue with landscapes on tripod.

In addition, you will have to re-focus (even in MF mode) after the standby timer expires.

 

[photobob1950]

I use the Sigma 10-20. It's great for astro (and also real estate interiors) because the lens has focus markings. What I do for astro is establish focus on a distant point in daylight, memorise where it is on the dial, then use that.

Doesn't look like I can do that with the new Nikon UWA lens? VR is of no interest to me in an UWA, something wrong if you can't get a sharp pic even at very low speeds.

The stuff I use it for requires a tripod, I can't turn off VR?

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[romfordbluenose]

Sorry that I have to ask. The Nikon website indicates that these AF-P are only partially compatible with the D7100/D7200 and other Nikon models. What does that mean? What features work, and what features don't work?

The main thing is to update the firmware which allows you to turn VR off and on using the camera menus.

 

[Patco]

Sorry that I have to ask. The Nikon website indicates that these AF-P are only partially compatible with the D7100/D7200 and other Nikon models. What does that mean? What features work, and what features don't work?

The main thing is to update the firmware which allows you to turn VR off and on using the camera menus.

Is the firmware to allow VR on/off with the D7100/D7200 actually available?

 

[klavrack]

Not that I've heard. I've not heard yet whether having the VR on on that lens in fact causes problems for tripod shots, either.

Sorry that I have to ask. The Nikon website indicates that these AF-P are only partially compatible with the D7100/D7200 and other Nikon models. What does that mean? What features work, and what features don't work?

The main thing is to update the firmware which allows you to turn VR off and on using the camera menus.

Is the firmware to allow VR on/off with the D7100/D7200 actually available?

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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels

 

[Jim Hess]

I don't think so. I have a D7100, and the last firmware update available is 1.03. There is no mention of anything about switchable VR. So I assume that means VR would just be continuous.

 

[66GTO]

It will be interesting to see how well this new and light lens performs. If it is a good one, they should sell a gazillion of them at the stated price.

 

[Richard Murdey]

I use the Sigma 10-20. It's great for astro (and also real estate interiors) because the lens has focus markings. What I do for astro is establish focus on a distant point in daylight, memorise where it is on the dial, then use that.

The Nikon 10-20 is designed to be cheap, simple, and light. There are better options if you want more high-end features.

VR is of no interest to me in an UWA, something wrong if you can't get a sharp pic even at very low speeds.

Well, see whatever you can manage handheld with no VR, VR gives you 3 stops above that. So if your "low speed" handheld is 1/20s, with VR you can do 1/2s, something which opens up a bunch more possibilities.

 

[Richard Murdey]

It will be interesting to see how well this new and light lens performs. If it is a good one, they should sell a gazillion of them at the stated price.

I think we should keep our expectations in line with the price point. It's very definitely going to need to be well stopped down to sharpen up the corners, especially at the extremes of the zoom range.

But if it's clean, sharp, and straight at 20-24mm eff. and f/8 it's already paid for itself as far as I am concerned. Everything else is bonus.

 

[Robjwilli]

If Nikon can make this little lens work well l'll be buying another body to go with it (probably D3400 or D5600).