Pc Specs to work with Photoshop very large image .pbs

[Keldrilh]

The i7-4790k is a much faster processor and more than half the price

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-6850K

Uh... you're comparing apples to oranges. The I7-6850K is a 6-core 12-thread processor @ 3.8GHz times 6 cores vs. the i7-4790K (which I have) 4-core, 8-thread processor @ 4.4 times 4 cores.

If 4790K is an apple and 6850k is an orange I will take apple anytime over orange.

Also, the i7-6850K has 15MB of cache, vs. the i7-4790K with only 8MB Cache - the more cache, the more info the processor can process at a time. Given the specs of the i7-6850K, that hardly makes the i7-4790K "a much faster processor". It fact, it is a slower processor, even with a faster clock speed. Lastly, the 6850K is a newer processor by 2 years over the 4790K.

That said, yes, it is also about $254 bucks more than the i7-4970K - 589.99 (6850K) vs 335.62 (4790K) - Amazon prices.

Just FYI

As to which processor to get, that's up to the OP and their wallet.

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All of the parameters mean absolutely nothing. Two processors have to be compared by what they can do to the user under software used. There are a lot of software that favors speed more than the cores.

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If I have to compare i7-6850 with another processor, I would compare it more to i7-5930 rather than i7-4970.

i7-5930 with OC runs better than i7-6850, but in standard more i7-6850 wins.

And another difference is i7-5930 can handle only 64GB RAM while i7-6850 can handle 128.

 

[Keldrilh]

Hello Guys,

I'm working on gigantic images in photoshop with pbs format.

Pixels size are around 160.000 X 300.000 and when saved on hard disk is 4.7Gb.

But my laptop takes more than 20 hours to save it on hard disk.

The images also contains a lot of layers, and when i give a command in photoshop it takes 2, 3 even 5 minutes to esecute it.

I stopped to work on it as I decided I need a new desktop for it. But when I will resume my work, i estimateed the images size may increase over 10 Gb.

The Laptop I'm using at the moment is a DELL INSPIRION 15-3521 (entium 2127U 1.9 GHz / RAM 4GB / HD 500GB / Win 8.1 64 bit)

This is the new build I decided to buy for working on my project:

I7-6850K
Asus X99 STRIX
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 128GB 3000GHz
EVGA GeForce GTX 1060
Noctua NH-D15S Cooler
Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD M.2 512 GB
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 2 TB
Phanteks Eclipse P400S Midi-Tower Window and Soundproof
Corsair CX750M PSU Modular - 750 Watt

Budget is around 2.800 Euro.

I will use this Desktop only to work on Photoshop Large PBS files (No Gaming / No Cad / No Video / No 3D)

Do you think is a well balanced machine? Would you change something? Can I change something to keep same performance and saving some money?

My goal is to reduce drastically the saving time which at the moment is more than 20 hours...

Thanks a lot for your suggestions,

Ciao,

Kel

What are you doing with your 160.000 X 300.000 pixel images?

It's a project I'm working on.

Basically I'm creating a huge photographic mosaic.

I hope it will work!

 

[edispics]

The i7-4790k is a much faster processor and more than half the price

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-6850K

Uh... you're comparing apples to oranges. The I7-6850K is a 6-core 12-thread processor @ 3.8GHz times 6 cores vs. the i7-4790K (which I have) 4-core, 8-thread processor @ 4.4 times 4 cores.

If 4790K is an apple and 6850k is an orange I will take apple anytime over orange.

Also, the i7-6850K has 15MB of cache, vs. the i7-4790K with only 8MB Cache - the more cache, the more info the processor can process at a time. Given the specs of the i7-6850K, that hardly makes the i7-4790K "a much faster processor". It fact, it is a slower processor, even with a faster clock speed. Lastly, the 6850K is a newer processor by 2 years over the 4790K.

That said, yes, it is also about $254 bucks more than the i7-4970K - 589.99 (6850K) vs 335.62 (4790K) - Amazon prices.

Just FYI

As to which processor to get, that's up to the OP and their wallet.

--

All of the parameters mean absolutely nothing. Two processors have to be compared by what they can do to the user under software used. There are a lot of software that favors speed more than the cores.

 

[Keldrilh]

Do not be an idiot. Wait.

January AMD new processors come out. You will:

* Save a LOT of money. The high end is significantly less expensive as Intel processors, uses significantly less power and just demonstrated slightly better performance on 8 cores. OUCH to intel.

* Unless things really go wrong, you will be able to use ECC memory with those, as AMD does not needlessly partition the market here.

Personally looking forward ot replacing all my servers with new machines in 2017 - and nearly all are planned to go to AMD (maybe all).

Yeah yeah, I will wait.

In my opinion prices rise when it's christmas time...

So I'm planning my purchase for the end of January, even early February. I'm not on rush and hope prices for my configuration will decrease by that time.

The reason I started to check my configuration now it's because I wanted to make a price esteem for my "build". This desktop is for a special project and I had no clue before which kind of machine would have fit to make this project.

After a first grasp of information on internet I set up a 2.800 euro budget, but it seems it can go down to 2.000 euro. Very cool. The first set up I created was over esteemed.

 

[edispics]

Are you planning to print it, and, if so, at what size?

 

[Keldrilh]

Are you planning to print it, and, if so, at what size?

No no!

If I print it, it will be big as much as a soccer field!

I'm planning to put it online and make it zoomable the way you zoom in google map.

 

[edispics]

Sort of like the Gigapan high res images that you can zoom into, I guess

http://gigapan.com/

 

[Keldrilh]

But I fully agree with you that there is no reason to spend extra money for something unecessary.

I have 3 more questions for you:

1) Which Graphic Card would you pick?

I am not running Lightroom but some people reported that Nvidia works with it great.

PS also takes advantage of the Nvidia cards. But the question is how much. All the photographic tests I ran so far indicate that there is no difference between 660 and 960 I have. You probably want to browse some forums (not on this forum) for if going with 10 series gives more benefit. I was also concerned with the power usage because electricity cost a lot of money where I live.

I checked and apparently video cards don't make that much difference for working on photoshop. Also the video card frequency doesn't affect photoshop performace. So now I'm thinking about an amd rx 480. I can get for 260 euro. A lot less than NVidia.

As my image files are about 5 gb and more, i'm thinking 8GB on the video card will help when to load the image on the video (but maybe i'm wrong about this..).

2) Which liquid cooling system would you suggest?

I actually built my own from the parts so it is not a system. For example my water pump is absolutely silent. I have dual radiator outside with 4 slow fans for silent operation.

If you decide DIY don't bother with specialty liquids. Plain diluted anti-freeze works just fine.

I'm not skilled in this. Won't be able to try to make a DIY...

I will look for one ready to buy.

3) Why did you suggest me ASUS x99 Sabertooth? The Asus x99 STRIX is cheapear and has also Wi-Fi included.

Because it has the best toughest components. My system sees a lot of stress so I need more reliable MB. I have already used 3 different Sabertooth MBs over many years without a single glitch. You can add Wi-fi many different ways later.

I'm not going to stress my system. Simply using photoshop. So I think I'll stick on Asus x99 STRIX. I found good review, cheaper and has already Wi-Fi

 

[edispics]

I know you are using PS, but have you looked at other stitching software to determine if PS is the best way to go.

Sometimes a different software choice might be better suited and might lead to more modest hardware requirements.

This article has a chart which lists most of the common stitching products:

http://www.panoramic-photo-guide.com/panoramic-stitching-software.html

 

[Keldrilh]

The i7-4790k is a much faster processor and more than half the price

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-6850K

Uh... you're comparing apples to oranges. The I7-6850K is a 6-core 12-thread processor @ 3.8GHz times 6 cores vs. the i7-4790K (which I have) 4-core, 8-thread processor @ 4.4 times 4 cores.

If 4790K is an apple and 6850k is an orange I will take apple anytime over orange.

Also, the i7-6850K has 15MB of cache, vs. the i7-4790K with only 8MB Cache - the more cache, the more info the processor can process at a time. Given the specs of the i7-6850K, that hardly makes the i7-4790K "a much faster processor". It fact, it is a slower processor, even with a faster clock speed. Lastly, the 6850K is a newer processor by 2 years over the 4790K.

That said, yes, it is also about $254 bucks more than the i7-4970K - 589.99 (6850K) vs 335.62 (4790K) - Amazon prices.

Just FYI

As to which processor to get, that's up to the OP and their wallet.

--

All of the parameters mean absolutely nothing. Two processors have to be compared by what they can do to the user under software used. There are a lot of software that favors speed more than the cores.

 

[Keldrilh]

Sort of like the Gigapan high res images that you can zoom into, I guess

http://gigapan.com/

Yeah

 

[Keldrilh]

I know you are using PS, but have you looked at other stitching software to determine if PS is the best way to go.

Sometimes a different software choice might be better suited and might lead to more modest hardware requirements.

This article has a chart which lists most of the common stitching products:

http://www.panoramic-photo-guide.com/panoramic-stitching-software.html

Yes Yes! Photoshop is fine. My project is different thou from that kind of Pano.

 

[SushiEater]

Worth noting that the overclockable Intel 6 and 8 core chips are very. very overclockable. My borther's 5960x with 8 cores (16 HT) is running at 4.8GHz.

All 8 core at 4.8Ghz? What voltage?

 

[SushiEater]

If I have to compare i7-6850 with another processor, I would compare it more to i7-5930 rather than i7-4970.

Anything can be compared.

i7-5930 with OC runs better than i7-6850, but in standard more i7-6850 wins.

And another difference is i7-5930 can handle only 64GB RAM while i7-6850 can handle 128.

Read this:

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www.pcworld.com

 

[SushiEater]

But I fully agree with you that there is no reason to spend extra money for something unecessary.

I have 3 more questions for you:

1) Which Graphic Card would you pick?

I am not running Lightroom but some people reported that Nvidia works with it great.

PS also takes advantage of the Nvidia cards. But the question is how much. All the photographic tests I ran so far indicate that there is no difference between 660 and 960 I have. You probably want to browse some forums (not on this forum) for if going with 10 series gives more benefit. I was also concerned with the power usage because electricity cost a lot of money where I live.

I checked and apparently video cards don't make that much difference for working on photoshop. Also the video card frequency doesn't affect photoshop performace. So now I'm thinking about an amd rx 480. I can get for 260 euro. A lot less than NVidia.

As my image files are about 5 gb and more, i'm thinking 8GB on the video card will help when to load the image on the video (but maybe i'm wrong about this..).

I simply don't know.

2) Which liquid cooling system would you suggest?

I actually built my own from the parts so it is not a system. For example my water pump is absolutely silent. I have dual radiator outside with 4 slow fans for silent operation.

If you decide DIY don't bother with specialty liquids. Plain diluted anti-freeze works just fine.

I'm not skilled in this. Won't be able to try to make a DIY...

I will look for one ready to buy.

The DIY is a same thing as some kits. All in one system is the one I would not recommend if you are going to do some serious overclocking.

Start here:

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www.frozencpu.com

3) Why did you suggest me ASUS x99 Sabertooth? The Asus x99 STRIX is cheapear and has also Wi-Fi included.

Because it has the best toughest components. My system sees a lot of stress so I need more reliable MB. I have already used 3 different Sabertooth MBs over many years without a single glitch. You can add Wi-fi many different ways later.

I'm not going to stress my system. Simply using photoshop. So I think I'll stick on Asus x99 STRIX. I found good review, cheaper and has already Wi-Fi

If you overclock and process very large files you might stress your system.

Can you check your current system performance right now. Does your existing CPU go to 100%? Does it stay there for a long period of times? Some video converters can also do that.

 

[Keldrilh]

But I fully agree with you that there is no reason to spend extra money for something unecessary.

I have 3 more questions for you:

1) Which Graphic Card would you pick?

I am not running Lightroom but some people reported that Nvidia works with it great.

PS also takes advantage of the Nvidia cards. But the question is how much. All the photographic tests I ran so far indicate that there is no difference between 660 and 960 I have. You probably want to browse some forums (not on this forum) for if going with 10 series gives more benefit. I was also concerned with the power usage because electricity cost a lot of money where I live.

I checked and apparently video cards don't make that much difference for working on photoshop. Also the video card frequency doesn't affect photoshop performace. So now I'm thinking about an amd rx 480. I can get for 260 euro. A lot less than NVidia.

As my image files are about 5 gb and more, i'm thinking 8GB on the video card will help when to load the image on the video (but maybe i'm wrong about this..).

I simply don't know.

2) Which liquid cooling system would you suggest?

I actually built my own from the parts so it is not a system. For example my water pump is absolutely silent. I have dual radiator outside with 4 slow fans for silent operation.

If you decide DIY don't bother with specialty liquids. Plain diluted anti-freeze works just fine.

I'm not skilled in this. Won't be able to try to make a DIY...

I will look for one ready to buy.

The DIY is a same thing as some kits. All in one system is the one I would not recommend if you are going to do some serious overclocking.

Start here:

http://www.frozencpu.com/brands/brand/b83/Danger_Den.html

3) Why did you suggest me ASUS x99 Sabertooth? The Asus x99 STRIX is cheapear and has also Wi-Fi included.

Because it has the best toughest components. My system sees a lot of stress so I need more reliable MB. I have already used 3 different Sabertooth MBs over many years without a single glitch. You can add Wi-fi many different ways later.

I'm not going to stress my system. Simply using photoshop. So I think I'll stick on Asus x99 STRIX. I found good review, cheaper and has already Wi-Fi

If you overclock and process very large files you might stress your system.

Can you check your current system performance right now. Does your existing CPU go to 100%? Does it stay there for a long period of times? Some video converters can also do that.

My CPU is stressed! LoL

 

[edispics]

Nope, I said 5960X

http://ark.intel.com/products/82930...ssor-Extreme-Edition-20M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

 

[edispics]

Worth noting that the overclockable Intel 6 and 8 core chips are very. very overclockable. My borther's 5960x with 8 cores (16 HT) is running at 4.8GHz.

All 8 core at 4.8Ghz? What voltage?

 

[ADMint]

I hope this pans out since I was a big AMD fan back in the (socket 939) day. However, for the past few years AMD's pre-launch claims have tended to be overblown so I think wait and see should be the order of the day.

They've pretty much been death nailed by Intel. Back in the day there use to be big debates about whether to get an Intel or AMD, now pretty much Intel is it.

And though I've never used an AMD processor/MB myself, I've no hate for them. I just never used their processors. Used plenty of their GPU's. In fact, all I've ever used in ATI/AMD graphics cards. But that's another story.

Anyway, the OP will get a million "suggestions" on how best to spend their money on a PC, but to me they should get what makes them happy, not what made us happy

I'm of the opinion get what you want now otherwise you'll be wasting money chasing after it later.

My two cents.

 

[Keldrilh]

Anyway, the OP will get a million "suggestions" on how best to spend their money on a PC, but to me they should get what makes them happy, not what made us happy

But the point of my post was not about which sort of configuration is better...

It wasn't A is better than B or whatever..

I described what I have to do with the new desktop, and asked a feedback if that configuration will allow me to manage that task...