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Anybody got an idea why every now and then my SL1 will for no apparent reason cast really warm? All the settings for these two shots were pretty much identical, but the G7X was much more faithful to the actual color. Other shots on this outing (with settings the same) did not show significant color disparity between the two cameras....

SL1 w/ 24 2.8 STM
SL1 w/ 24 2.8 STM



G7X
G7X
 
I'm guessing you have a different Picture Style set on each camera. Another possibility is different WB setting (both on Auto WB?).

And the SL1 shot got 1 stop less exposure (how metered with each camera?)

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I'm guessing you have a different Picture Style set on each camera. Another possibility is different WB setting (both on Auto WB?).

And the SL1 shot got 1 stop less exposure (how metered with each camera?)

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Standard pic style on both cameras (with the same detail set), both on AWB...

same evaluative metering on both....

shortly before I took those shots, I took the ones below, and both cameras produced almost identical results. I'm wondering if my SL1 can be a little finicky at higher ISO some of the time.... i dunno.

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Magical "smart" systems like Evaluative metering and Auto white balance bring with them the occasional failure. You're asking the camera to totally guess what kind of scene you're taking a picture of, and to guess how you want it to turn out. Sometimes the camera guesses wrong.

Canon DSLRs have been known for their problematic Auto WB since the first Digic chips were introduced over a decade ago. In warm lighting, Canon DSLRs tend to leave too much warmth in pictures for most people's tastes. In my decade of using my XT/350D, I relied on Daylight WB for pictures lit by sunlight and on Tungsten WB for pictures lit by incandescent lights. For my rare flash photos, I used Flash WB. Some people prefer the warmer look of using Shade WB instead of Daylight WB.

Evaluative metering looks at the AF points that locked, on the assumption that they're locked on your subject, then picks one of those locked AF points and meters on it. Then it looks at the pattern of brightness in the metering zones and consults a data table of common scene patterns to determine how much lighter or darker it should go, if any, from the metered value. If the AF point that locked isn't over your subject, or if multiple points locked and it picked the wrong one, or if it misjudged what kind of scene you're looking at, you'll get the wrong exposure.

You've got two choices: take control of the camera -- setting the WB and adjusting the exposure yourself -- or simply accept that sometimes the camera's magic will get it wrong and you'll have to post-process the picture to get the result you want (and occasionally you'll get a picture that can't be fixed at all).

By the way, I don't think either camera got it right. The G7X picture is way too cool, in my opinion.

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Anybody got an idea why every now and then my SL1 will for no apparent reason cast really warm? All the settings for these two shots were pretty much identical, but the G7X was much more faithful to the actual color. Other shots on this outing (with settings the same) did not show significant color disparity between the two cameras....

SL1 w/ 24 2.8 STM
SL1 w/ 24 2.8 STM

G7X
G7X
WB is not the only problem here. Overall sharpnes is very bad! The lens body combo should be unable to record such a bad shot if AF is correct. Have the same combo and never have had this weird behavIour. I would recommend to do a factory reset. If that doesn't clear things up get it tested.

Hope it works out for you.

Kind regards

Perry


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What I've noticed when the light is near sunset or after sunset, the white balance can be off by quite a bit as one of the blue or red components start to dominate compared to a sunny scene. If I'm not mistaken the shot below is close to sunset, maybe a few minutes after sunset where your other shots that you posted is in direct sunlight.

The light around sunset is kind of like mixed lighting, blueish away from the sun, and reddish when the object is pointing towards the sun. This can confuse the WB algorithm in the camera just like in artificial/natural lighting combination.

If you look at the gun barrel, the end facing the sun is clearly warmer in tones than the barrel, which is more blue, reflecting the bluer light from above. Either the camera picks the warmer tones as dominant white balance or the bluer tones.

Shooting in raw and adjusting in post can help, but mixed lighting is still challenging to get it to look 'right'. What I usually do is look at the most saturated colors warm and cool, then set a white balance that makes both about as bright, then adjust saturation to taste (up or down depending on the scene).
Anybody got an idea why every now and then my SL1 will for no apparent reason cast really warm? All the settings for these two shots were pretty much identical, but the G7X was much more faithful to the actual color. Other shots on this outing (with settings the same) did not show significant color disparity between the two cameras....

SL1 w/ 24 2.8 STM
SL1 w/ 24 2.8 STM

G7X
G7X


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