Hayes Island & PSP7?

[David_S85]

Admission #1: I just love that Hayes stuff I've seen so far here and in the other forums.

Admission #2: I've spent several hours trying to translate the Hayes effect tutorial over to PSP7, but the tools are just different enough and the results I've got thus far are not good enough to post here - yet.

Anybody able to simulate this with the native PSP7.04 package yet? Please let me know soon before I lose more sleep!

• David

 

[Ann McRae]

I tried this technique yesterday with PSP7 as well. Doesn't help that I don't understand layers well enough to work on 4 at a time. Would love direction on how to get the effect with PSP7.

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[Harvey F]

Can you do the Hayes stuff Of Photoshop Elements or
Photoshop Elements 2?

Thanks,

Harvey F

Admission #1: I just love that Hayes stuff I've seen so far here
and in the other forums.

Admission #2: I've spent several hours trying to translate the
Hayes effect tutorial over to PSP7, but the tools are just
different enough and the results I've got thus far are not good
enough to post here - yet.

Anybody able to simulate this with the native PSP7.04 package yet?
Please let me know soon before I lose more sleep!

• David

 

[Jared-5]

I've started seeing this on the forum the past week, and have no clue what people are talking about.

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• Jared -

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[David_S85]

If you're asking if I can, then no. If you're asking in general, then I can't answer that either. I know that it was written for PS6. And the best work I've seen thus far has been in the Nikon forum, where all this hub-bub started about 26 days ago.

Let me see if I can find those links to the posts. Back in a minute...

• David

Harvey F wrote:
Can you do the Hayes stuff Of Photoshop Elements or
Photoshop Elements 2?

Thanks,

Harvey F

Admission #1: I just love that Hayes stuff I've seen so far here
and in the other forums.

Admission #2: I've spent several hours trying to translate the
Hayes effect tutorial over to PSP7, but the tools are just
different enough and the results I've got thus far are not good
enough to post here - yet.

Anybody able to simulate this with the native PSP7.04 package yet?
Please let me know soon before I lose more sleep!

• David

 

[Wes69632]

Have a look here:
http://www.davrodigital.co.uk/tutorials/haye-island-cafe/hayes-island-cafe.htm

Regards
...Wes

I've started seeing this on the forum the past week, and have no
clue what people are talking about.

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• Jared -

DSC-F707

 

[David_S85]

http://www.davrodigital.co.uk/tutorials/haye-island-cafe/hayes-island-cafe.htm

That is the original link that started it all.

If you do a search for Hayes in the Nikon Forum, you'll find more than a dozen pages of threads. The best examples are in there... somewhere. Its Days of Hayes worth, so to speak.

I also did a search for "Hayes Island" in Google, just for fun. The first two links were to the effect. The third, was to the real Hayes Island Cafe. Rather funny that the effect is more popular than the place it was named after.

Maybe I'll post a similar Q up at pspug.org, to see what the wizzards come up with there (No, I haven't lost faith in my STF friends, just trying to broaden the knowledge).

• David

David_S85 wrote:
If you're asking if I can, then no. If you're asking in general,
then I can't answer that either. I know that it was written for
PS6. And the best work I've seen thus far has been in the Nikon
forum, where all this hub-bub started about 26 days ago.

Let me see if I can find those links to the posts. Back in a minute...

• David

 

[David_S85]

Wes wrote:
Have a look here:
http://www.davrodigital.co.uk/tutorials/haye-island-cafe/hayes-island-cafe.htm

Regards
...Wes

Thanks Wes, you found it before me. That's the tutorial I read four days back that I've been trying to port over to PSP7. I don't think anyone wants to see my results with that translation yet.

• David

 

[Erichatch]

Who has recorded the Hayes effect into a good PSP action. Just send him a note and I'm sure he'll reply.

"BUD GUINN"

Admission #1: I just love that Hayes stuff I've seen so far here
and in the other forums.

Admission #2: I've spent several hours trying to translate the
Hayes effect tutorial over to PSP7, but the tools are just
different enough and the results I've got thus far are not good
enough to post here - yet.

Anybody able to simulate this with the native PSP7.04 package yet?
Please let me know soon before I lose more sleep!

• David

 

[David_S85]

Hi Eric,

I read some of Bud's posts on the Nikon forum this morning. Seems to be really a PS-specific thing.

Problem is, I don't have PS. And PSP7 doesn't allow actions. The steps I already have on the original Hayes effect HTML, which I swiped and save locally, but the tools are quite different between the two programs, so the only effect I can reproduce exactly is the textured background and vignetting final steps. The intermediary steps I'm getting closer to duplicating, little by little, by utilizing edge and texture filters for things they're not normally for.

For any fellow PSP7-propeller-heads out there who are also reading this post, and want to get ideas on reproducing some of the steps, please refer to jasc.com's Artistic links on the right of their page, especially the Water Colors and Pencil Sketch tutorials. I'm going through them right now trying to glean ideas. Some of them (theirs, not mine) are pretty amazing.

• David

Erichatch wrote:
Who has recorded the Hayes effect into a good PSP action. Just
send him a note and I'm sure he'll reply.

"BUD GUINN"

Admission #1: I just love that Hayes stuff I've seen so far here
and in the other forums.

Admission #2: I've spent several hours trying to translate the
Hayes effect tutorial over to PSP7, but the tools are just
different enough and the results I've got thus far are not good
enough to post here - yet.

Anybody able to simulate this with the native PSP7.04 package yet?
Please let me know soon before I lose more sleep!

• David

 

[Anorfir]

David_S85 wrote:
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For any fellow PSP7-propeller-heads out there who are also reading
this post, and want to get ideas on reproducing some of the steps,
please refer to jasc.com's Artistic links on the right of their
page, especially the Water Colors and Pencil Sketch tutorials. I'm
going through them right now trying to glean ideas. Some of them
(theirs, not mine) are pretty amazing.

• David

Something you might try is a free ware plug in which you can get here;
http://www.fantasticmachines.com/demo_downloads.htm

it's called Paint Engine and some of the presets come close to the Pallett Knife which is not to be found in PSP. With a little playing around it might be the thing. It is a fun plug in anway

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[Larry Duff137130]

Can you do the Hayes stuff Of Photoshop Elements or
Photoshop Elements 2?

Yes, you can do it, however each step has to be done manually. PE(2) does not support actions.

LD

 

[santa]

I've used the Hayes Island effect on a couple of pics with no problem, on PS7. I use a Mac but I think the mac version and the pc versin of PS7 are nearly identical. I'm defragging my hard drive at the moment so I don't want to work in PS right now but I'll try to get an action created. The biggest problem is with teh variations of settings for the different filters. What creates a harsh effect on a 600k picture will do almost nothing on a 1.5 meg picture so I am still playing with various settings, still all I did was follow the directions. I'm not sure how to write them any more detailed and an action will not ncessarily work well with pictures of different resolutions. What problems are people having, specifically?

 

[Anorfir]

I've used the Hayes Island effect on a couple of pics with no
problem, on PS7. I use a Mac but I think the mac version and the pc
versin of PS7 are nearly identical. I'm defragging my hard drive at
the moment so I don't want to work in PS right now but I'll try to
get an action created. The biggest problem is with teh variations
of settings for the different filters. What creates a harsh effect
on a 600k picture will do almost nothing on a 1.5 meg picture so I
am still playing with various settings, still all I did was follow
the directions. I'm not sure how to write them any more detailed
and an action will not ncessarily work well with pictures of
different resolutions. What problems are people having,
specifically?

Well the problem for folks in this thread is that you cannot do the same steps in Paint Shop Pro as you can in Photoshop. Some of the tools are not there which makes it more complicated.

There is a good action that does the Hayes effect for PS to be found in the dpreview retouching forum action set found here http://www.geocities.com/kafuensis/

it is the one called RBS Pen and Ink, of course actions are not going to work in PSP
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[David_S85]

And the result here (but without the steps involved - still working on reducing the steps - will write it up soon).

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=4226009

• David

David_S85 wrote:
Admission #1: I just love that Hayes stuff I've seen so far here
and in the other forums.

Admission #2: I've spent several hours trying to translate the
Hayes effect tutorial over to PSP7, but the tools are just
different enough and the results I've got thus far are not good
enough to post here - yet.

Anybody able to simulate this with the native PSP7.04 package yet?
Please let me know soon before I lose more sleep!

• David

 

[markarts]

You should really try Painter 7.

http://www.procreate.com

Have been using it for years and it can do any natural medium very well, great software program and is a MUST have for any artist in there toolbox.