Speeding up merging HDR photos and panoramas in Lightroom CC

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Hi!


As an enthusiast travel photographer I do a lot of HDR, panoramas and HDR panoramas. I merge the photos as an HDR dng file in Lightroom and also stitch the panoramas from the Nikon D800 raw files or from the dng files (in case of HDR panoramas) in Lightroom.


The problem currently is that the process takes a lot of time. Of course, the speed depends on how many files I’m merging as an HDR file or stitching as a panorama, but typically we are talking about anything from a couple of minutes to 15 minutes (including both creating the preview and the actual end result).


From what I’ve understood, both HDR merging and stitching panoramas are memory intensive processes. I run Lightroom from my SSD drive, on which I only have about 30Gb free space. Sometimes, when stitching, say, more than 7 images as a panorama, I run out of space on the SSD and Lightroom is unable to complete the final image. From this, I’ve concluded that perhaps the bottle neck currently is the speed of the scratch disk.


What I described above has lead to me to two possible solutions:
1) By increasing the amount of RAM from my current 8Gb to, say, 32Gb I could speed up these processes significantly, assuming that the scratch disk wouldn’t have to be used at all. Does this logic apply?


2) If the operating system (Windows 10) or Lightroom (CC) isn’t for some reason able to benefit from that much of RAM, would a possible workaround be installing a super fast SSD drive, such as the new Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe, so that the by using that as a scratch disk the writing speed would simply be multiple times faster than with my current 4-year-old SSD drive?


Later this year, I’m building a new PC mainly for post-processing, so if something completely else than what I thought above could work, please feel free to suggest other options as well.


Thanks a lot for any help in advance!
 
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What processor are you running?
 
What processor are you running?
Currently I have the Intel Core I5-4670K 3,4GHz.


Other possibly relevant specs on my current PC:

RAM: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) HyperX Beast, DDR3 1600MHz

Motherboard: AsRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance

SSD: PNY 120GB XLR8 SSD SATA III 6GB/S

Graphics card: NVIDIA Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP! 2GB DDR5
 
What processor are you running?
Currently I have the Intel Core I5-4670K 3,4GHz.
Other possibly relevant specs on my current PC:
RAM: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) HyperX Beast, DDR3 1600MHz

Motherboard: AsRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance

SSD: PNY 120GB XLR8 SSD SATA III 6GB/S

Graphics card: NVIDIA Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP! 2GB DDR5
I am running a 6700K at 4.6 Ghz, 32 GB mem, all ssd, GTX960 4GB, LR 6.6 and to HDR merge 3 Nikon 7200 nefs takes about 18 seconds.
 
Hi!
As an enthusiast travel photographer I do a lot of HDR, panoramas and HDR panoramas.
You may want to look into software that is designed to do that type of work, to begin with. That would not just some add-on feature added to a raw conversion application like LR or ACR.

For example Autopano and look at their site Kolor

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JJMack
 
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Such as?
 
I did some more rough timings:

3 Nikon 7200 NEFs merge to HDR:

LR 6.6.1 = 18 secs

Oloneo = 9 secs

Photomatix = 10 secs

NIK - too long selecting in LR and merging to NIK HDR Effex pro

I tried a merge to panorama with 7 7200 nefs:

LR = 18 secs

Same photo but 7 jpgs

ICE = 20 secs

there is also the obvious issue of which product and result you prefer, irregardless of the time to process.
 
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You need to try PS CC 2015.5.
I did some more rough timings:

3 Nikon 7200 NEFs merge to HDR:

LR 6.6.1 = 18 secs

Oloneo = 9 secs

Photomatix = 10 secs

NIK - too long selecting in LR and merging to NIK HDR Effex pro

I tried a merge to panorama with 7 7200 nefs:

LR = 18 secs

Same photo but 7 jpgs

ICE = 20 secs

there is also the obvious issue of which product and result you prefer, irregardless of the time to process.
 
OP was concerned with speed. Are you suggesting Auto Pano to address the performance issue? If so, can you do some timings to compare?
 
I think what edispics is trying to say, but didn't actually say, is that you need a faster CPU in order to speed up the HDR photos and panoramas in Lightroom.

SSD will have zero effect on this. GPU will have zero effect on this.

Memory may help some, but it would be a secondary effect (unless you don't have enough memory)

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Paige Miller
 
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You have your images not me. Download a trial version and test using your images.
 
Hi W4w3,

I have a similar problem to yours when processing RAW files from my 5D3 for HDR and panorama's using LR.

My PC has a i7 3370 and 16GB (4 yrs old) and when processing pano's and when watching the Task Manager graphs I regularly see the RAM used flattening off at the 16GB level for a minute or 3.

I am contemplating increasing the RAM but the RAM currently installed is no longer available and I am in a bit of a quandary whether to find additional compatible RAM, just replace all the RAM or build a new PC. Allan
 
Hi W4w3,

I have a similar problem to yours when processing RAW files from my 5D3 for HDR and panorama's using LR.

My PC has a i7 3370 and 16GB (4 yrs old) and when processing pano's and when watching the Task Manager graphs I regularly see the RAM used flattening off at the 16GB level for a minute or 3.

I am contemplating increasing the RAM but the RAM currently installed is no longer available and I am in a bit of a quandary whether to find additional compatible RAM, just replace all the RAM or build a new PC. Allan
Is it flattening off at or near 100% usage, or is it flattening off at a much lower value?

If it is flattening off at a lower value, then you need a faster CPU, not more memory.
 
Hi dj,

It is flattening off at 16GB presumably using all the RAM.

Last night I was processing the days shoot, including 4 pano's and spent some time watching the Task manager and noted that with LR, Firefox and T-bird open after 20 minutes or so the RAM was at 6 - 7GB when there was no processing being done. I assume most of this RAM being used is from the image preview files.
 
Preview files should not be residing in RAM.

What version of Lightroom are you using? The most recent version (LR 6.6.1/LR CC 2015.6.1) has a bug fix to the problem where it was using too much memory.
 
Hi Paige,

I am using Lightroom version: 6.6 [ 1078672 ] and the OS, etc, is on a SSD.
 
I think you should see what happens to your memory issue when you update to Lightroom 6.6.1.

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Paige Miller
 
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Hi Paige,

I upgraded to 6.6.1, opened LR and yesterdays folder (FF & TB open). RAM was at 4.0GB. I then scrolled through all the processed pictures, RAM = 7.4GB and reprocessed the largest panorama - RAM went to 13.2GB. 5 min after the processing was done the RAM went back to 3.5GB

The LR people have sorted out some of the memory leaks. Thanks for the heads-up.

Allan
 
Last time I tried Microsoft ICE it could not handle wide fisheye lenses and the stitch produced was rubish. However, it has the right price free. You get what you paid for it.

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JJMack
 
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