Have you tried the new Fuji X70 or Ricoh GRII? Then maybe you can help me!

[iknowadrian]

I currently have a Sony RX100M3 as my small take anywhere/ travel camera.

I'm in the market for a new travel camera, not because the Sony isn't cutting it, just because I like new things/ simply want to try a new camera.

I had my eye on the Ricoh GRII (annoyingly they have basically no distribution around my local area so I have to order one in, not a big deal, but just means I can't go to the store and hold one)

Then I started reading about the Fuji X70 and I got beyond confused, it's literally a toss up for which camera people think is better.

My notes:

- I like that the Ricoh has a integrated lens cap, rather than having to remove and replace one like the Fuji.

- It seems unanimous that the Fuji has better auto-focus? I like that.

- I like that the Fuji has a high FPS

- I like that the Ricoh is sharper

- From videos it seems that the Fuji makes a lot of ticking and noises when focusing or the aperture blades adjusting for the metering. Can anyone confirm?

- I read Ricoh sucks for color

- I like Fuji's film presets (though it's only in JPEG and I usually shoot RAW and edit, I guess I can learn to adjust)

So in short, I'll read one article and be like "OH the Ricoh is surly the way to go", then another and think "what was I thinking, it's all Fuji X70 all the way" and it goes, back and fourth.

Can any of you with experience with both or either of the cameras help me put a nail in this Fuji X70 vs Ricoh GRII dilemma!? Or should I just get the RX100M4.

 

[pkcpga]

That's a tough choice, can you live without a zoom? I owned the original GR, which was great 5 years ago but today would seem a little outdated. The autofocus is not usable unless you pre focus your distance before each photo. Not sure how much better the two is but I've heard it's still very bad. The lens is what sells the GR, great lens, good sensor and good controls. But a very limited camera basically designed for slow or non moving subjects. The jpegs are not good but raw images converted can look great. I again have never owned the x70 but I had the x100t which is a great camera, A huge step up from the GR but much larger than the GR. But better jpegs, good lens and great controls. I liked this camera so much I purchased the xpro 2 recently and love that camera, it never leaves my side. I have a medium format camera and two Nikon dslr which I now do not use for personal or family photography, bigger cameras only for work because I like this little camera that much. I have not used the Sony but I know many people love it for its size and zoom lens. I think you should make a list of pros and cons for each and decide which list fits your photo style best. From what I've experienced the Fuji will have much better autofocus, better jpegs, both cameras have good controls, the GR is a little smaller and has a built in lens cap(not a big deal for me), might have a slightly sharper lens but less color contrast unless you use raw. Fuji raw is not as well supported. The Sony will be the only zoom lens but it's a smaller sensor so shallow depth of field will not happen, the Sony sensor is about half the size of the apsc sensor. The x70 and GR are convenient sized but I prefer the 35mm over 28mm lens, it's just a bit too wide for me on an only lens camera. I actually use the 50 and 85mm lens even more now that I chase my kids with the camera this allows me to get nice photos without standing on top of them. Good luck, make sure your ready to give up the zoom and if you chose the GR also the autofocus speed for moving subjects. These are the two factors that pushed me back to an interchangable lens camera for traveling and everyday use instead of the GR or x100t. I also own the Leica x2 which is not worth owning, the x100t is better for half the cost.