A6300+LA-Ea3+A Mount 16-50 F/2.8

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paradisephoto Regular Member • Posts: 152
A6300+LA-Ea3+A Mount 16-50 F/2.8
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Curious if anyone has tried this combination.  I am thinking about getting the A6300 with the e-mount 16-50, but would love to use my A mount 16-50 as it is simply a killer APS-C lens for times when I really need either the speed or the lens quality.

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Dirk W Veteran Member • Posts: 3,454
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It works perfectly on the A6300 with La1, quick AF and great IQ.

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Ray Maines
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paradisephoto wrote:

I am thinking about getting the A6300 with the e-mount 16-50, but would love to use my A mount 16-50 as it is simply a killer APS-C lens for times when I really need either the speed or the lens quality.

I would love to add something intelligent to this conversation, but I don't have either the LA-EA-3 or the A-Mount 16-50/F2.8 lens.

But, I have the a6300, the PZ 16-50, an LA-EA-2 adapter, a few E-Mount primes, and a few random A-Mount zoom lenses.

Here's what I currently think I know: The adapter will change your brand new a6300 into the latest, greatest version of your old camera. That's not all bad, especially considering how much you paid for the older Sony lens, and there isn't a direct E-Mount replacement.

But it's not all good either.

If you're shooting with an older A-Mount camera and are happy with it, I'd stick with it. Otherwise, you'll have to consider buying the Sony/CZ E-Mount 16-70, F/4 lens and giving up that last bit of faster exposure. Overall, the Image Quality is about the same. Sensors have gotten better and acceptable ISO is in the stratosphere compared to just a few years ago.

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RobDJW Contributing Member • Posts: 508
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Ray Maines wrote:

paradisephoto wrote:

I am thinking about getting the A6300 with the e-mount 16-50, but would love to use my A mount 16-50 as it is simply a killer APS-C lens for times when I really need either the speed or the lens quality.

I would love to add something intelligent to this conversation, but I don't have either the LA-EA-3 or the A-Mount 16-50/F2.8 lens.

But, I have the a6300, the PZ 16-50, an LA-EA-2 adapter, a few E-Mount primes, and a few random A-Mount zoom lenses.

Here's what I currently think I know: The adapter will change your brand new a6300 into the latest, greatest version of your old camera. That's not all bad, especially considering how much you paid for the older Sony lens, and there isn't a direct E-Mount replacement.

But it's not all good either.

If you're shooting with an older A-Mount camera and are happy with it, I'd stick with it. Otherwise, you'll have to consider buying the Sony/CZ E-Mount 16-70, F/4 lens and giving up that last bit of faster exposure. Overall, the Image Quality is about the same. Sensors have gotten better and acceptable ISO is in the stratosphere compared to just a few years ago.

With the la-ea3 adapter it won't change the a6300 in the old camera because it's making use of the pdaf, unlike with the la-ea2, wich has it's own focusing points.

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William Curtindale
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I don't have the 16-50mm but I do have the FF A-Mount 16-35mm f/2.8 ZA SSM and it works beautifully with the A6300 + LA-EA3. I am in process of testing several A-Mount SSM lenses on the A6300 w/LA-EA3. So far all work beautifully (quick to focus and track).

The A6300 grows into a bigger / heaver package with my Zeiss SSM lenses but they work great. The A6300 becomes a true pleasure as a walk around (small / light) with some of the native e-mount APS-C lenses. This A6300 will be a keeper for me for a long time (loving it and having lots of fun changing out lens combinations).

I am meeting with AarSee (Rick Church) this morning to shoot BIF. We are also talking about gear an will try a few lens combinations. Rick will bring his A6000 and LA-EA1 & La-EA2. I want to try some of my non-SSM lenses with his LA-EA2 on my A6300 (i.e. 16mm f/2.8 fisheye and 85mm f/1.5 ZA). Rick wants to try my 24-70mm f/2.8 ZA SSM with LA-EA2 on his A6000. I will post some samples later today.

Going to be a fun morning and hope to capture some BIF (24° F outside).

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ttan98 Senior Member • Posts: 2,411
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Ray Maines wrote:

If you're shooting with an older A-Mount camera and are happy with it, I'd stick with it. Otherwise, you'll have to consider buying the Sony/CZ E-Mount 16-70, F/4 lens and giving up that last bit of faster exposure.

Feedbacks from many users Sony E-mount 16-70 f4 is not such a great lens, mediocre at best on some units worst still rejected and send back to suppliers. Honestly I won't pay US$900-1000 for it.

I bought 2 second hand Sigmas, 17-50 f2.8 and 17-70 f2.7-4.0 neither one costs more than US$280 each. I use the latter with Techart III I get  accurate and fast focus too.

lhkjacky Senior Member • Posts: 2,924
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RobDJW wrote:

With the la-ea3 adapter it won't change the a6300 in the old camera because it's making use of the pdaf, unlike with the la-ea2, wich has it's own focusing points.

I am interest in this combination as well.

But I want to know, will the 16-50 F2.8 able to track focus (AF_C) during 4k video recording?

Am I able to get the excellent, AF Lock-On, High density AF point with the LA-EA3 on A6300?

Thank you

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RobDJW Contributing Member • Posts: 508
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lhkjacky wrote:

RobDJW wrote:

With the la-ea3 adapter it won't change the a6300 in the old camera because it's making use of the pdaf, unlike with the la-ea2, wich has it's own focusing points.

I am interest in this combination as well.

But I want to know, will the 16-50 F2.8 able to track focus (AF_C) during 4k video recording?

Am I able to get the excellent, AF Lock-On, High density AF point with the LA-EA3 on A6300?

Thank you

Don't own the a6300 yet, but Dirk W must know this.

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Dirk W Veteran Member • Posts: 3,454
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RobDJW wrote:

lhkjacky wrote:

RobDJW wrote:

With the la-ea3 adapter it won't change the a6300 in the old camera because it's making use of the pdaf, unlike with the la-ea2, wich has it's own focusing points.

I am interest in this combination as well.

But I want to know, will the 16-50 F2.8 able to track focus (AF_C) during 4k video recording?

Am I able to get the excellent, AF Lock-On, High density AF point with the LA-EA3 on A6300?

Thank you

Don't own the a6300 yet, but Dirk W must know this.

Ok, I tried it: For filming, forget the AF capability, it simply does not work with this lens/adapter combination, or it hunts and hunts and makes noise. For picture taking, it's a totally different story, nice and fast S-AF or C-AF. I tried it today at a running competition. The lens offers such a good IQ, it is really great to use, very sharp already at f2.8. And, for the first time (for me), maximum IQ due to no SLT in the way

Possible that PDAF does not work on this lens/adapter in movie mode; on opposite to the snappy picture mode, in movie mode it feels pretty much like on the A6000.

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val1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,346
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On the A6000:

I tried the sigma 17-70. With the LA-EA2 it was pretty decent in terms of focus but I didn't see it as a clear upgrade over the 18-105g.  I tried it against the zeiss 16-70 and i was not really impressed with any of the above. I felt the IQ was pretty much in line with the sony lenses but with the LA-EA2 it was bigger heavier and the af modes of the A6000 were not available. The sigma can be found 200-300$ all the time. On the A6000, i felt like the 18-105g was a better value. Faster aperture more reach and better or similiar IQ at most ranges and settings. On a 6300 this looks like a viable option but i would wait until the new sigma adapter is tested. IF this unlocks all the AF modes you can buy this lens and the adapter for a song. Keep in mind sigma resale value tends to stink. The sigma f/2.8 is actually much better stopped down to f/4 than this lens. Niether is as sharp as the sony 16-50 f/2.8.

I also tried the 16-50 sony 2.8. This lens was actually great. I felt it was almost on par with the zeis 24-70 I was trying on an A7 at the same time. The size of the lens is just wonky on the A6000 body. IQ was very good. It was a tad soft wide open but at f/4 it was far better than either the 18-105g or the zeiss 16-70. The problem at the time was once again the la-ea4. I actually bought an LA-EA3 to try this lens and hated the AF on the A6000. ON the 6300 this represents the best IQ and value in my opinion at the moment.

I still think the sigma adapter with sigma canon mount lenses MAY be the way to go. Full native af support etc. The 250$ for an adapter is tough if you plan to use one lens like the sigma 17-70. On the other hand, I would bet sigma will release new versions of their 2.8 glass. If this get added support that would rock. Keep in mind the sigma 16-30 f/1.8 is being joined by a 50-150 f/1.8. This makes me wonder if sigma will release a mid range fast lens. A 1.8 apsc is pretty much like a 2.8 on FF.

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Aleberro Junior Member • Posts: 28
Re: A6300+LA-Ea3+A Mount 16-50 F/2.8

Dirk W wrote:

It works perfectly on the A6300 with La1, quick AF and great IQ.

Hey Dirk,

How are you liking that combo?
Is it stabilized?

Im about to pull the trigger on the a6300 and im trying to figure out the lenses that will go with it. Im a 50% stills - 50% video guy.

Thanks!!!

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andarioa Junior Member • Posts: 34
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I´d LOVE for any company to come up with an adapter that would allow us to have the same phase detection AF-C in video mode we have wth native FE lenses, while using the a6300+16-50mm f/2.8 SSM combo. That´ll be the day...

Dirk W Veteran Member • Posts: 3,454
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Aleberro wrote:

Dirk W wrote:

It works perfectly on the A6300 with La1, quick AF and great IQ.

Hey Dirk,

How are you liking that combo?
Is it stabilized?

Im about to pull the trigger on the a6300 and im trying to figure out the lenses that will go with it. Im a 50% stills - 50% video guy.

Thanks!!!

It is not stabilized. The IQ is great, sharp in the center, but the corners are somewhat soft. The AF works nicely but is limited to AF-S and AF-C. In Video not useable. I sold the lens in the meantime and wait LIKE CRAZY for an e-mount native small(er) pro zoom in that range.

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MinoltaGuy Junior Member • Posts: 45
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Aleberro wrote:

Dirk W wrote:

It works perfectly on the A6300 with La1, quick AF and great IQ.

Hey Dirk,

How are you liking that combo?
Is it stabilized?

Im about to pull the trigger on the a6300 and im trying to figure out the lenses that will go with it. Im a 50% stills - 50% video guy.

Thanks!!!

I am a A6000 user and was disappointed using my Sigma 16-50 f/2.8 w/OS with the LA-EA3, AF is just bad and your stuck with manual focus. But, I was able to try out a A6300 with the LA-EA3 and my Sigma 16-50, what a difference. AF does behave almost natively, but for video forget about it. No AF-C, you have to press the shutter button to focus and it doesn't work most of the time. I had also tried my 35mm f/1.8DT on the A6300 and was really surprised how much better AF using that lens compared to the A6000. OS does work with the A6000 so I would assume it works also on the A6300.

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tomkalsjo New Member • Posts: 21
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Hi,

I have the recently purchased the a6500 and La-ea3. I use it with both the Sigma 18-35 f 1.8 and the Sony 16-50 f2.8. Both deliver great IQ IMO. The 16-50 AF is a little bit slower and less reliable in low light, but else I am very satisfied with this. Of course I would love to have full native functionality, but since I already have those lenses this was the best option for me..

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Nesvetay
Nesvetay Forum Member • Posts: 87
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A6000 and A6300/6500 have very different AF so your experience is not useful here.

I changed my A6000 for A6500 to improve AF with A-mount lenses.

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kelstertx Veteran Member • Posts: 5,245
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paradisephoto wrote:

Curious if anyone has tried this combination. I am thinking about getting the A6300 with the e-mount 16-50, but would love to use my A mount 16-50 as it is simply a killer APS-C lens for times when I really need either the speed or the lens quality.

Almost.  I have the DT 16-50 and the Lala4 that I use on my A7rII.  I believe the experience is very similar, only you are natively APS-C, and my camera crops to that for crop lenses.  Also I have the Lala4 with the SLT system, rather than the Lala3 because I have WAY more screw drive lenses than SAM/SSM types.

It still uses the SSM, even on the Lala4 (it's smart enough to not use the screw drive when it doesn't need to) but the AF is the 15 point SLT that's internal to the Lala4.  I could use the native AF of the camera body if I bought a Lala3 too, but since this is my only SSM lens, and it's on eBay currently, I don't see the need.

I gave it up because it's cropped down to 18mp on my FF camera and big and heavy.  I can get 24-XXX or 28-XXX lenses that are FF and lighter (perhaps not f2.8, but I have others for that).

BTW, the nice thing is that the body will correct the distortions and aberrations automatically, even on one of the Lala adapters.

Short answer:  if you already own the DT 16-50, I'd say try it.  It might be everything you need and you might not need the e-mount one.

-Kelly

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jonnyrocket Regular Member • Posts: 103
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paradisephoto wrote:

Curious if anyone has tried this combination. I am thinking about getting the A6300 with the e-mount 16-50, but would love to use my A mount 16-50 as it is simply a killer APS-C lens for times when I really need either the speed or the lens quality.

When using this lens with the LA-EA3 on an a6300 or a6500, does AF-C wide work with 8 frames per second? I have the Sony Zeiss 16-70 F4 and love the lens for its rendering and quick AF. Will the 16-50 with the LA-EA3 give me comparable AF speed? It would be great if it does since it gives an additional stop which would be very useful when taking action photos of my dog.

Thanks!

Jon

Trumani New Member • Posts: 8
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jonnyrocket wrote:

paradisephoto wrote:

Curious if anyone has tried this combination. I am thinking about getting the A6300 with the e-mount 16-50, but would love to use my A mount 16-50 as it is simply a killer APS-C lens for times when I really need either the speed or the lens quality.

When using this lens with the LA-EA3 on an a6300 or a6500, does AF-C wide work with 8 frames per second? I have the Sony Zeiss 16-70 F4 and love the lens for its rendering and quick AF. Will the 16-50 with the LA-EA3 give me comparable AF speed? It would be great if it does since it gives an additional stop which would be very useful when taking action photos of my dog.

Thanks!

Jon

I had the same concern along with the video autofocus. I read on another post that it will only continually focus on the low setting, so 3fps. Also It would be nice for a few more comments on the video.

I am eyeing the a6500 for the ibis for video with my a mount lenses but would be pointless if the autofocus is wonky (use it for kids not for professional, for which most pros use manual focus anyway)

BlueBomberTurbo Senior Member • Posts: 1,492
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No adapter will AF past 3FPS.  Probably something to do with the aperture opening and closing speeds.  Also, video AF only works on lenses adapted with the Metabones IV and higher, and the Sigma MC-11.  All other adapters do not support native emulation with CDAF.

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