Buying a new Sony soon but which one?

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I need a new camera. I own the A700 and A77 and have a small collection of A mount lenses. I love the idea of the A7Rii but do I really want to invest in another A-Mount body when Sony is clearly moving towards E-mount? I shoot all kinds of things from weddings, architecture, and newborns so I need to invest in a quality camera that I can use for several years. Then I see announcements like the A6300 today and wonder if I could get good results with that? It has a super-fast focus and the E-mount lenses selection is getting larger. I would like to use a full frame but I’ve gotten by with APS-C all these years. I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion? Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?

Sincerely,

Confused in Sony Town
 
I have an A65 and A6100. For indoor lighting levels, the A65 is much faster in AF. The E-mount Sony cameras are super in fast in AF when there is lots of light for the PDAF pixels to work. But with indoor lighting, the A6100 switches over to CDAF and it is slow.

My Olympus EPL5 has much faster AF in indoor lighting than my A6100.

I agree, it is a bit of a hard choice to know what to buy with Sony. There is no perfect camera, or if there is, it is beyond a price level I am looking at.
 
I need a new camera. I own the A700 and A77 and have a small collection of A mount lenses. I love the idea of the A7Rii but do I really want to invest in another A-Mount body when Sony is clearly moving towards E-mount? I shoot all kinds of things from weddings, architecture, and newborns so I need to invest in a quality camera that I can use for several years. Then I see announcements like the A6300 today and wonder if I could get good results with that? It has a super-fast focus and the E-mount lenses selection is getting larger. I would like to use a full frame but I’ve gotten by with APS-C all these years. I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion? Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?

Sincerely,

Confused in Sony Town
I don't own an e-mount camera, but I am pretty sure the a7rii is one.
 
I have an A65 and A6100. For indoor lighting levels, the A65 is much faster in AF. The E-mount Sony cameras are super in fast in AF when there is lots of light for the PDAF pixels to work. But with indoor lighting, the A6100 switches over to CDAF and it is slow.

My Olympus EPL5 has much faster AF in indoor lighting than my A6100.
Where and when did you buy that A6100 mentioned three times?
 
I need a new camera.
Why?
... I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion?
You can't get useful opinions if people don't know why you need a new camera.
Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?
The A7RII is the top of the line in E-mount cameras (this year). Don't you agree?
 
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I own two a99 bodies and load of a-mount FF lens.Tried A7rII few times, but currently waiting for a99II.
 
I need a new camera. I own the A700 and A77 and have a small collection of A mount lenses. I love the idea of the A7Rii but do I really want to invest in another A-Mount body when Sony is clearly moving towards E-mount? I shoot all kinds of things from weddings, architecture, and newborns so I need to invest in a quality camera that I can use for several years. Then I see announcements like the A6300 today and wonder if I could get good results with that? It has a super-fast focus and the E-mount lenses selection is getting larger. I would like to use a full frame but I’ve gotten by with APS-C all these years. I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion? Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?

Sincerely,

Confused in Sony Town
You don't explain what you want to get from a new camera. Given that you have a number of A-mount lenses and the A77, until recently one of the best of its kind, it doesn't seem likely that an upgrade would buy you much of an improvement for the money compared to buying a better lens. In what way are you finding your A77 and your lenses deficient? What improvements are you after?
 
"A6100"

Oops. A6000 of course. I guess I have read some many rumor threads about an A6100 it seemed into my brain.
 
I need a new camera. I own the A700 and A77 and have a small collection of A mount lenses. I love the idea of the A7Rii but do I really want to invest in another A-Mount body when Sony is clearly moving towards E-mount? I shoot all kinds of things from weddings, architecture, and newborns so I need to invest in a quality camera that I can use for several years. Then I see announcements like the A6300 today and wonder if I could get good results with that? It has a super-fast focus and the E-mount lenses selection is getting larger. I would like to use a full frame but I’ve gotten by with APS-C all these years. I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion? Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?

Sincerely,

Confused in Sony Town
Dear Confused in Sony town

This is a confusing set of questions, rendered even more confusing because I'm still not 100% sure – along with several other responders – what it is that you're really looking for. We also don't know what a mount lenses you already have, and if these are killer lenses or just average.

If you're looking for shallow depth of field effects than you do probably want to go full frame, and then your choices are older technology in the A 99, or possibly adapting your lenses to the A7Rii, depending on whether or not they are screw drive (LAEA 4 versus LAEA 3). If you're interested in spending significantly less money, the A 77ii is a real upgrade over the original A 77 that you already own, including in terms of its lowlight performance (despite the very modest improvement in dxo numbers), where the noise quality avoids the wormy chroma noise of the previous generation and has mostly more manageable luminance noise. Alternatively you could wait to see whether or not there is an alpha 99ii in the coming months, but of course that's a crapshoot.

Another large variable is ergonomics. Have you ever shot with an alpha 6000? If you really like small bodies, then the alpha 6300 looks like a super camera if you want to go APS-C. I still believe that the lens ecology despite all the new releases for e-mount is inferior, super costly, and the size of their 2.8 zooms are humongous. I think that there are serious compromises involved in getting big fast zoom lenses to mate with a 18 mm registration distance. In this sense I think that E-Mount has this weird trade-off of low body weight for bigger lenses of equivalent speed and range.

All that being said, if you are looking for the best possible dynamic range, high ISO, and 4K video, there is really nothing like the new A7rii. there is a reason why it's won all these awards, but again you either have to put up with adapters, and if you have screw drive, you're going to take a serious hit on the autofocus in the LAEA4 relative to the native on sensor phase detection in the body. If you want to go with native ecology lenses on that great A7rii body you're going to spend a fortune. So again there are lots of trade-offs to consider.

It may come down to how much money you want to drop on your new gear and whether that new gear really would give you that much of an image quality margin over simply your current A77 or even an A77ii. Those are tougher questions that I cannot answer for you. If you are significantly dissatisfied with your current image quality, then I suspect only full frame will do. If that's the case then you either have a choice to go to E-Mount, get a used A99, wait for an alpha 99ii that may or may not come, or if all these choices are overwhelming, sit on it for a while until a clear winner emerges.

Hope that's helpful

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Sony 16-50 2.8, 70-400 f4-5.6 G2, 100 f2.8 Macro
Minolta 600 f4, 300 2.8, 70-210 f4, 28-135 f4-4.5
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I need a new camera. I own the A700 and A77 and have a small collection of A mount lenses. I love the idea of the A7Rii but do I really want to invest in another A-Mount body when Sony is clearly moving towards E-mount? I shoot all kinds of things from weddings, architecture, and newborns so I need to invest in a quality camera that I can use for several years. Then I see announcements like the A6300 today and wonder if I could get good results with that? It has a super-fast focus and the E-mount lenses selection is getting larger. I would like to use a full frame but I’ve gotten by with APS-C all these years. I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion? Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?

Sincerely,

Confused in Sony Town
So maybe A6300 + LA-EA3 and A mount lens ?

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You clearly have some duplication going on with OVF v EVF, and although I don't use SLT EVF cameras, unless you're a technophobe and must have the latest fad, gizmo or do-dad, unless you're actually going to make use of these functions it's essentially a waste, therefore, with you saying you would like to go to FF, then both the A850/A900 DSLR's are still excellent platforms and continue to deliver superb images as long as you (the shooter) are using specific settings as opposed to auto. This is important because if you took say 10 images and reviewed the EXIF image data, I would bet that they'll be different, thus should you want to change or improve a setting, I would imagine to do so will be made more difficult as you'll not know what's causing any issue(s), so in order to maintain full control, inputting settings yourself will keep the EXIF the same with the exception of the shutter speed if you're in Aperture Mode and therefore it's much easier to make any changes.

Also, the FF bodies (A99, A850 and A900) are dual format so you can still use APS-C lenses, though image size will be around 11MP, though apart from the almost barren FF WA lens options, you do get to release the huge back catalogue of Minolta FF lenses and you then get the full picture and not a central cropped portion if used on an APS-C body, therefore, with APS-C, depending on your shooting areas of interest, you can cover say from 8mm to 200mm with APS-C format lenses and thereafter it's full frame format.

If you're open-minded and won't rule anything out until you've at least researched them as much as is possible, though if you're a Dyxum member, post in the appropriate thread and you'll likely get far more qualified answers to mine, so there's likely to be Dyxumer's who have, had or know where to read the most comprehensive list of pro's and con's that may relate to your conundrum, but it's harder than you think when allowing for all of the variables that have to be factored in, but IMO, I wouldn't have any concerns over the A-Mount as there are millions of lens copies worldwide of each make/model/type so the A-Mount won't become extinct for many decades yet.

Happy hunting!
 
what about the Emount and a speed booster to get more light in and to give full frame look
 
Get an A77 II. The A7r II is a great camera, but it doesn't do what the A77 II can do, and it never will. SOME day they'll make an A9 or something that is worth upgrading to, and you can use an adapter to mount your lenses on that, but for now the A77 II is a GREAT buy, which means you'll save some money toward the ultimate mirrorless camera, which you can get when it finally comes on the market.

Now, if what you're really looking for is some sort of ultra-low-light camera, and you can spend some money, then why not try the A7r II? Get that with the new 24-70mm f2.8 GM, and you'll probably be a happy camper. That will be one hell of a kit, and you can expand your system to include the 70-200mm f2.8 GM in the future (great for shooting weddings and just about anything else). You'll have nice 4K video capability with that kit, and in the long run you can get a super-wide lens too.

Certainly the A mount is limited and has a limited future, but if you stick with it exclusively you will not spend as much money now. You DO already have an A77 though, and the A77 II will not give you a lot of capabilities. There's another consideration too. If you get the A7r II and an adapter to use the lenses you already have, you can eventually get a Sigma 20mm f1.4 Art lens and shoot some great wide-field Milkyway shots and other cool night shots like the aurora borealis. (Not that you can't shoot those things with your A77 and whatever wide-angle lens you have now - it will just look better using that awesome, wide-aperture 20mm and the A7r II, right? I don't know how much better, but I suspect a lot better.)
 
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I need a new camera. I own the A700 and A77 and have a small collection of A mount lenses. I love the idea of the A7Rii but do I really want to invest in another A-Mount body when Sony is clearly moving towards E-mount?
A7Rii is E Mount.
I know you can’t tell me what camera is right for me, but what’s your opinion? Do I invest in E-mount – if so, what camera is considered top of the line and how does it compare to the A7Rii?
A7Rii is Sony's top of the line E Mount camera.
 
Since the future of photography is mirrorless, it wouldn't make much sense to look toward an a-mount solution in cases where one has the opportunity to choose imo.
 
Since the future of photography is mirrorless, it wouldn't make much sense to look toward an a-mount solution in cases where one has the opportunity to choose imo.
Is there any reason there won't be an a-mount mirrorless camera?
 
Since the future of photography is mirrorless, it wouldn't make much sense to look toward an a-mount solution in cases where one has the opportunity to choose imo.
Is there any reason there won't be an a-mount mirrorless camera?
There might but, though I can't think of any personally. My guess is that Sony will likely continue to offer and develope adapters aimed at facilitating th migration for existing a-mount users. Though it seems unlikely to me that they would continue to develop lenses and bodies for tech. that is slated for deprecation as mirroreless solutions continue to progress.
 
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