Reliable Canon EF to Olympus adapter WITH autofocus?

[Vintage _ Digital]

Anyone know about one of these? It looks like Panasonic got all the love from Metabone for AF with EF lenses, but Olympus got none of the love.

Anybody know of any reliable 3rd party adapters that they can vouch for?

 

[neil holmes]

Anyone know about one of these? It looks like Panasonic got all the love from Metabone for AF with EF lenses, but Olympus got none of the love.

Anybody know of any reliable 3rd party adapters that they can vouch for?

As far as I know, the only adapters for M4/3 that allow AF with Canon lenses are the Metabones smart adapter (not a speedbooster) and that seems to be AFS only and only with Panasonic.

The Metabones speedboosters (the Ultra might work with Olympus for AF but not for video).

http://www.metabones.com/products/?c=micro-43-system-2

The Kipon AF adapter......works well with fast AF with some of my lenses on my Panasonic GX7...the 40 2.8 STM in particular is effectively a native lens for me now. (AFS only but that is the case with some native M4/3 lenses too).

My 135 f2 L also works well and fast with it though not always accurate....sometimes easier to use manual focus.

My newly acquired 18-55 IS ii kitlens seems to work ok .....a couple of other lenses not as good but still usable.

http://www.kipon.com/en/articledetail.asp?id=81

The Kipon had lots of issues when released but most have been addressed by firmware updates.

I guess I would say that now, it is hit and miss with some lenses and it does use a fair bit of power if you don't turn it off between shots ......is always trying to focus if left on even though it doesn't AFC.

 

[John King]

Tom Caldwell is using various Metabones adapters for his large collection of Canon lenses on both Panasonic bodies and an Olympus EM-1 with apparently considerable success.

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[Tom Caldwell]

All the Metabones adapters EF to M4/3 work exactly the same at v1.8 and give good AF pretty well across the board with Olympus and Panasonic bodies (I have both). At v1.8 firmware the problem in mounting the Canon 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 on Panasonic bodies was fixed.

Lenses do work at AF with variable perfomance. But only the Canon EF 50/1.8 II is still debateable on the these adapters. Others such as the 150/2.0 might need a couple of tries to secure precise AF, but speeds are acceptable. These lenses are in the minority and in effect even such exotic lenses as the 200/2.0 will give acceptable-fast and accurate AF. (as good as I need stop watches aside).

I am not disappointed. Maybe some over particular users might disagree. But I have invested in the 0.71x Speedbooster Ultra MB_SPEF-M43-BT4 and the lensless MB_EF-M43-BT2 and it is money well spent as my existing Canon EF lenses provide a treasure trove of "new" lenses off my shelves that are now useful on M4/3.

The 0.64x Speedbooster should also work just the same as long as your camera body is one of the supported ones.

Comparing these adapters to the Metabones adapter with most up to date firmware used with the Sony A7R the difference is very marked. Whereas the use of Canon EF lenses on the A7R is just doable with a large reliance on MF when AF fails or is too slow - the M4/3 adapters give full AF support for almost all Canon EF lenses. It is said that the Metabones adapters on the A7II series work as well if not better than those on the M4/3 bodies. But I just don't have it in my budget or will to go experiment there.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Tom Caldwell is using various Metabones adapters for his large collection of Canon lenses on both Panasonic bodies and an Olympus EM-1 with apparently considerable success.

Yes I have and every day my eyes open wider and my smile gets broader.

And Brian C is not a relation, nor a business associate, but seems a thoroughly nice fellow. Unfortunately I have to pay full retail price for my adapters. Doubly unfortunate as our dollar is ppoor at the moment.

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[John King]

That's a good thing to hear, Tom. I knew you would be able to help the OP with your experience :-D .

For my own part, the only mFTs lens I own gets very little use, as I mostly have one of my HG /SHG FTs lenses on my E-M1.

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Tom

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[Tom Caldwell]

Anyone know about one of these? It looks like Panasonic got all the love from Metabone for AF with EF lenses, but Olympus got none of the love.

Anybody know of any reliable 3rd party adapters that they can vouch for?

As far as I know, the only adapters for M4/3 that allow AF with Canon lenses are the Metabones smart adapter (not a speedbooster) and that seems to be AFS only and only with Panasonic.

The Metabones speedboosters (the Ultra might work with Olympus for AF but not for video).

Glad that we can compare Neil.

All Metabones adapters that can be upgraded to v1.8 firmware for M4/3 will work with AF. This includes at least the 0.71x Ultra Speed Booster, the 0.64x Speed Booster and the lensless adapter. In practical terms they work exactly in the same manner.

I don't "do" video so its use there did not even occur to me. I might have to try just to complete the picture. Harder as due to complete lack of interest I have turned my video button off on my Panasonic bodies and re-assigned it on my Olympus body. I suggest that Canon EF lens users on m4/3 bodies are less likely to be video-nuts. Maybe some video-aware users might be willing to help out? Myself I would not know video from my armpit so I am not one to ask or give advice on the subject. I do suppose we are not alone in a big sea of EF to M4/3 lens adaption.

AFC actually tries with Panasonic bodies but is not useful. I have not tried this with an Olympus body but in truth AF-S is so quick now that I really didn't see much point in even testing it - but I will in time just out of curiosity.

http://www.metabones.com/products/?c=micro-43-system-2

The Kipon AF adapter......works well with fast AF with some of my lenses on my Panasonic GX7...the 40 2.8 STM in particular is effectively a native lens for me now. (AFS only but that is the case with some native M4/3 lenses too).

My 135 f2 L also works well and fast with it though not always accurate....sometimes easier to use manual focus.

This must be 135/2 lens related as this lens often needs re-tries with the Metabones adapters as well. But so far I have not been pushed into going back to MF.

My newly acquired 18-55 IS ii kitlens seems to work ok .....a couple of other lenses not as good but still usable.

http://www.kipon.com/en/articledetail.asp?id=81

The Kipon had lots of issues when released but most have been addressed by firmware updates.

I guess I would say that now, it is hit and miss with some lenses and it does use a fair bit of power if you don't turn it off between shots ......is always trying to focus if left on even though it doesn't AFC.

The extra speed of focus seems partly related to an early pre-focus attempt (usually successful) and a memory factor which then starts subsequent focus attempts at that point. The Metabones adapter seems slightly slower when switching from close to far or vice versa. But again it will make a new pre-focus attempt just as soon as it gets a chance.

I have not particularly noticed any battery life problems with the Metabones adapters but they would surely use more life with physically larger lenses. But the E-M1 happily "wore" the rather large Canon 200/2.0 for an extended period of time giving very fast focus results and a battery that started out slightly depleted. Battery drain does not seem a practical problem of any real significance.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Tom

You are feeding my GAS!

Andrew

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I would not rush out and actually buy a Canon EF lens specifically because of these adapters. But I agree with Neil that the 40/2.8 STM Canon lens does work very well adapted to M4/3 body.

The Kipon adapter seems to be getting more capable by the fimware upgrade and is cheaper but my opinion is that Metabones have "cracked it" with the v1.8 firmware release and it is now fully capable on the Olympus bodies as well as the Panasonic ones - and Metabones has three adapter versions to choose from.

However anyone with a closet full of nice Canon EF lenses can now put hem to very good use on M4/3 bodies as small as the GM1. For a laugh only I fitted a GM1 body on the huge 400/2.8 IS lens and it made perfect quick auto focus! I suppose that as this lens is only useful on a tripod anyway the actual size of the camera body is therefore a moot question if it works. But the PDAF E-M1 and battery pack is going to turn this lens into a big reach all day monster in other ways as well - either a FF eq 800/2.8 or with an Ultra speedbooster it make it a 280/2.0 in M4/3 or 560/2.0 in FF eq terms. But you need the entry fee and it is a very big lens.

On the other hand those who need and can justify such a lens now do have a means of attaching one to a M4/3 body with good AF-S at least. How long before Olympus (or Panasonic) provides something similar in native mount? This is a very specialist field of use with high entry fees and low sales numbers.

My present favourite is the still very expensive, hand held capable, but borderline carry about 200/2.0 IS (at about 1.9Kg for the lens alone). This is working, in my experience, just as well on a M4/3 body as it ever did on a dslr body. But contrary to my past practice I have actually now used it on an E-M1 whilst being carried about to the wry amusement of some pop-eyed passer's by. But I admit to have also used it on a NEX6 indoors quite successfully as well. I had to tell them "it's only "a 200", and many kit lenses have greater reach" to disabuse them that I was using it to peep through lighthouse windows. Such big object lenses give some the impression that you are checking out landers on Mars.

In indoor light on a focal reducer f1.4 on a 200mm prime reduces the dof to perhaps 1 metre maximum. Must be magic for indoor sports though.

 

[ahaslett]

Tom

You are feeding my GAS!

Andrew

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Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin

I would not rush out and actually buy a Canon EF lens specifically because of these adapters. But I agree with Neil that the 40/2.8 STM Canon lens does work very well adapted to M4/3 body.

The Kipon adapter seems to be getting more capable by the fimware upgrade and is cheaper but my opinion is that Metabones have "cracked it" with the v1.8 firmware release and it is now fully capable on the Olympus bodies as well as the Panasonic ones - and Metabones has three adapter versions to choose from.

However anyone with a closet full of nice Canon EF lenses can now put hem to very good use on M4/3 bodies as small as the GM1. For a laugh only I fitted a GM1 body on the huge 400/2.8 IS lens and it made perfect quick auto focus! I suppose that as this lens is only useful on a tripod anyway the actual size of the camera body is therefore a moot question if it works. But the PDAF E-M1 and battery pack is going to turn this lens into a big reach all day monster in other ways as well - either a FF eq 800/2.8 or with an Ultra speedbooster it make it a 280/2.0 in M4/3 or 560/2.0 in FF eq terms. But you need the entry fee and it is a very big lens.

On the other hand those who need and can justify such a lens now do have a means of attaching one to a M4/3 body with good AF-S at least. How long before Olympus (or Panasonic) provides something similar in native mount? This is a very specialist field of use with high entry fees and low sales numbers.

My present favourite is the still very expensive, hand held capable, but borderline carry about 200/2.0 IS (at about 1.9Kg for the lens alone). This is working, in my experience, just as well on a M4/3 body as it ever did on a dslr body. But contrary to my past practice I have actually now used it on an E-M1 whilst being carried about to the wry amusement of some pop-eyed passer's by. But I admit to have also used it on a NEX6 indoors quite successfully as well. I had to tell them "it's only "a 200", and many kit lenses have greater reach" to disabuse them that I was using it to peep through lighthouse windows. Such big object lenses give some the impression that you are checking out landers on Mars.

In indoor light on a focal reducer f1.4 on a 200mm prime reduces the dof to perhaps 1 metre maximum. Must be magic for indoor sports though.

 

[neil holmes]

http://www.metabones.com/products/?c=micro-43-system-2

The Kipon AF adapter......works well with fast AF with some of my lenses on my Panasonic GX7...the 40 2.8 STM in particular is effectively a native lens for me now. (AFS only but that is the case with some native M4/3 lenses too).

My 135 f2 L also works well and fast with it though not always accurate....sometimes easier to use manual focus.

This must be 135/2 lens related as this lens often needs re-tries with the Metabones adapters as well. But so far I have not been pushed into going back to MF.

It is funny. Sometimes I think the 135 is excellent and other times it hunts and fails.....I guess it is mostly very good ....maybe just indoors at close distances it may fail a bit more.

Surprisingly, the Sigma 150 2.8 seems more usable than I thought and in macro mode (.38m to .52m) AF is good ....not that I would use AF mode for macro very often.

At the other two settings (full and .52m to infinity) it is similar to the Canon 135 indoors but a bit more hunting.

Both seem better outdoors and in daylight.

The 135 is a favourite lens and I use it for AF (more than MF) on my A7s too as well as the GX7.

Would love it if Sony extended the firmware for AFC to the original A7 as well as the A7ii but I doubt it would happen ....will still get the Saker Falcon AFC adapter at some point ......I don't need AFC with these lenses but sometimes it would be a bonus.

Still thinking about selling the sigma 150 2.8 since it plays up on the Sony's (other than on a "broken" adapter) and I wont use it a lot on the GX7.....such a nice lens though (when it DOES work).

My newly acquired 18-55 IS ii kitlens seems to work ok .....a couple of other lenses not as good but still usable.

http://www.kipon.com/en/articledetail.asp?id=81

The Kipon had lots of issues when released but most have been addressed by firmware updates.

I guess I would say that now, it is hit and miss with some lenses and it does use a fair bit of power if you don't turn it off between shots ......is always trying to focus if left on even though it doesn't AFC.

The extra speed of focus seems partly related to an early pre-focus attempt (usually successful) and a memory factor which then starts subsequent focus attempts at that point. The Metabones adapter seems slightly slower when switching from close to far or vice versa. But again it will make a new pre-focus attempt just as soon as it gets a chance.

I have not particularly noticed any battery life problems with the Metabones adapters but they would surely use more life with physically larger lenses. But the E-M1 happily "wore" the rather large Canon 200/2.0 for an extended period of time giving very fast focus results and a battery that started out slightly depleted. Battery drain does not seem a practical problem of any real significance.

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Tom Caldwell

As I am aware of it, I just make sure and turn the camera off between shots so not an issue for me......only have one battery for my GX7 and that has worked well for me so far.

 

[neil holmes]

Just playing around indoors with both the 135 f2 L and the Sigma 150 2.8 APO.

Both definitely are much better when used in single shot mode on the GX7 (as opposed to any drive mode) both using AFS.

And of course (DUH) the 135 is better at the .9m to infinity setting than the 1.6m to infinity setting IF you are trying to shoot something closer than 1.6m!

Still not quite native AF for both as both CAN be off with the focus (then again so can my Oly 14-42 kit lens).

The 40 2.8 pretty much gets it right all the time though....and why I am so tempted to get a 55-250 STM Canon lens to try.

The 18-55 IS ii kit lens is slower to focus and noisier as well but seems ok......a bit hit and miss too sometimes so not native but ok.

 

[Vintage _ Digital]

Just playing around indoors with both the 135 f2 L and the Sigma 150 2.8 APO.

Both definitely are much better when used in single shot mode on the GX7 (as opposed to any drive mode) both using AFS.

And of course (DUH) the 135 is better at the .9m to infinity setting than the 1.6m to infinity setting IF you are trying to shoot something closer than 1.6m!

Still not quite native AF for both as both CAN be off with the focus (then again so can my Oly 14-42 kit lens).

The 40 2.8 pretty much gets it right all the time though....and why I am so tempted to get a 55-250 STM Canon lens to try.

The 18-55 IS ii kit lens is slower to focus and noisier as well but seems ok......a bit hit and miss too sometimes so not native but ok.

Will have to give the metabones adapter a try with my EM5.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

The other thing I mention is that on some lenses with a focal-range limiter switch the limiter does not work. Seems fine when on full-range not limited though. It hasn't worried me particularly and I have not kept a list of on which lens the limiter works and on which lens it doesn't - I must pay more attention next time and report it back.

I have an EF mount Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 APO without stabilisation (one of my very few non-Canon EF lenses) which has been second fiddle to my (larger) Canon version for years. Now that I can attach it to IBIS bodies it has come out of enforced retirement and has proved itself a very capable lens. Sharp as that tack and quick fast AF - love it.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Tom

You are feeding my GAS!

Andrew

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Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin

I would not rush out and actually buy a Canon EF lens specifically because of these adapters. But I agree with Neil that the 40/2.8 STM Canon lens does work very well adapted to M4/3 body.

The Kipon adapter seems to be getting more capable by the fimware upgrade and is cheaper but my opinion is that Metabones have "cracked it" with the v1.8 firmware release and it is now fully capable on the Olympus bodies as well as the Panasonic ones - and Metabones has three adapter versions to choose from.

However anyone with a closet full of nice Canon EF lenses can now put hem to very good use on M4/3 bodies as small as the GM1. For a laugh only I fitted a GM1 body on the huge 400/2.8 IS lens and it made perfect quick auto focus! I suppose that as this lens is only useful on a tripod anyway the actual size of the camera body is therefore a moot question if it works. But the PDAF E-M1 and battery pack is going to turn this lens into a big reach all day monster in other ways as well - either a FF eq 800/2.8 or with an Ultra speedbooster it make it a 280/2.0 in M4/3 or 560/2.0 in FF eq terms. But you need the entry fee and it is a very big lens.

On the other hand those who need and can justify such a lens now do have a means of attaching one to a M4/3 body with good AF-S at least. How long before Olympus (or Panasonic) provides something similar in native mount? This is a very specialist field of use with high entry fees and low sales numbers.

My present favourite is the still very expensive, hand held capable, but borderline carry about 200/2.0 IS (at about 1.9Kg for the lens alone). This is working, in my experience, just as well on a M4/3 body as it ever did on a dslr body. But contrary to my past practice I have actually now used it on an E-M1 whilst being carried about to the wry amusement of some pop-eyed passer's by. But I admit to have also used it on a NEX6 indoors quite successfully as well. I had to tell them "it's only "a 200", and many kit lenses have greater reach" to disabuse them that I was using it to peep through lighthouse windows. Such big object lenses give some the impression that you are checking out landers on Mars.

In indoor light on a focal reducer f1.4 on a 200mm prime reduces the dof to perhaps 1 metre maximum. Must be magic for indoor sports though.

 

[Vintage _ Digital]

Tom

You are feeding my GAS!

Andrew

--

Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin

I would not rush out and actually buy a Canon EF lens specifically because of these adapters. But I agree with Neil that the 40/2.8 STM Canon lens does work very well adapted to M4/3 body.

The Kipon adapter seems to be getting more capable by the fimware upgrade and is cheaper but my opinion is that Metabones have "cracked it" with the v1.8 firmware release and it is now fully capable on the Olympus bodies as well as the Panasonic ones - and Metabones has three adapter versions to choose from.

However anyone with a closet full of nice Canon EF lenses can now put hem to very good use on M4/3 bodies as small as the GM1. For a laugh only I fitted a GM1 body on the huge 400/2.8 IS lens and it made perfect quick auto focus! I suppose that as this lens is only useful on a tripod anyway the actual size of the camera body is therefore a moot question if it works. But the PDAF E-M1 and battery pack is going to turn this lens into a big reach all day monster in other ways as well - either a FF eq 800/2.8 or with an Ultra speedbooster it make it a 280/2.0 in M4/3 or 560/2.0 in FF eq terms. But you need the entry fee and it is a very big lens.

On the other hand those who need and can justify such a lens now do have a means of attaching one to a M4/3 body with good AF-S at least. How long before Olympus (or Panasonic) provides something similar in native mount? This is a very specialist field of use with high entry fees and low sales numbers.

My present favourite is the still very expensive, hand held capable, but borderline carry about 200/2.0 IS (at about 1.9Kg for the lens alone). This is working, in my experience, just as well on a M4/3 body as it ever did on a dslr body. But contrary to my past practice I have actually now used it on an E-M1 whilst being carried about to the wry amusement of some pop-eyed passer's by. But I admit to have also used it on a NEX6 indoors quite successfully as well. I had to tell them "it's only "a 200", and many kit lenses have greater reach" to disabuse them that I was using it to peep through lighthouse windows. Such big object lenses give some the impression that you are checking out landers on Mars.

In indoor light on a focal reducer f1.4 on a 200mm prime reduces the dof to perhaps 1 metre maximum. Must be magic for indoor sports though.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Just playing around indoors with both the 135 f2 L and the Sigma 150 2.8 APO.

Both definitely are much better when used in single shot mode on the GX7 (as opposed to any drive mode) both using AFS.

And of course (DUH) the 135 is better at the .9m to infinity setting than the 1.6m to infinity setting IF you are trying to shoot something closer than 1.6m!

Still not quite native AF for both as both CAN be off with the focus (then again so can my Oly 14-42 kit lens).

The 40 2.8 pretty much gets it right all the time though....and why I am so tempted to get a 55-250 STM Canon lens to try.

The 18-55 IS ii kit lens is slower to focus and noisier as well but seems ok......a bit hit and miss too sometimes so not native but ok.

Will have to give the metabones adapter a try with my EM5.

The Kipon is cheaper but still seems a work in progress. If you were looking for dumb MF adapters to adapt from other legacy mount systems then there is a much wider range of suitable adapters to choose from.

 

[Vintage _ Digital]

Just playing around indoors with both the 135 f2 L and the Sigma 150 2.8 APO.

Both definitely are much better when used in single shot mode on the GX7 (as opposed to any drive mode) both using AFS.

And of course (DUH) the 135 is better at the .9m to infinity setting than the 1.6m to infinity setting IF you are trying to shoot something closer than 1.6m!

Still not quite native AF for both as both CAN be off with the focus (then again so can my Oly 14-42 kit lens).

The 40 2.8 pretty much gets it right all the time though....and why I am so tempted to get a 55-250 STM Canon lens to try.

The 18-55 IS ii kit lens is slower to focus and noisier as well but seems ok......a bit hit and miss too sometimes so not native but ok.

Will have to give the metabones adapter a try with my EM5.

The Kipon is cheaper but still seems a work in progress. If you were looking for dumb MF adapters to adapt from other legacy mount systems then there is a much wider range of suitable adapters to choose from.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Tom

You are feeding my GAS!

Andrew

--

Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin

I would not rush out and actually buy a Canon EF lens specifically because of these adapters. But I agree with Neil that the 40/2.8 STM Canon lens does work very well adapted to M4/3 body.

The Kipon adapter seems to be getting more capable by the fimware upgrade and is cheaper but my opinion is that Metabones have "cracked it" with the v1.8 firmware release and it is now fully capable on the Olympus bodies as well as the Panasonic ones - and Metabones has three adapter versions to choose from.

However anyone with a closet full of nice Canon EF lenses can now put hem to very good use on M4/3 bodies as small as the GM1. For a laugh only I fitted a GM1 body on the huge 400/2.8 IS lens and it made perfect quick auto focus! I suppose that as this lens is only useful on a tripod anyway the actual size of the camera body is therefore a moot question if it works. But the PDAF E-M1 and battery pack is going to turn this lens into a big reach all day monster in other ways as well - either a FF eq 800/2.8 or with an Ultra speedbooster it make it a 280/2.0 in M4/3 or 560/2.0 in FF eq terms. But you need the entry fee and it is a very big lens.

On the other hand those who need and can justify such a lens now do have a means of attaching one to a M4/3 body with good AF-S at least. How long before Olympus (or Panasonic) provides something similar in native mount? This is a very specialist field of use with high entry fees and low sales numbers.

My present favourite is the still very expensive, hand held capable, but borderline carry about 200/2.0 IS (at about 1.9Kg for the lens alone). This is working, in my experience, just as well on a M4/3 body as it ever did on a dslr body. But contrary to my past practice I have actually now used it on an E-M1 whilst being carried about to the wry amusement of some pop-eyed passer's by. But I admit to have also used it on a NEX6 indoors quite successfully as well. I had to tell them "it's only "a 200", and many kit lenses have greater reach" to disabuse them that I was using it to peep through lighthouse windows. Such big object lenses give some the impression that you are checking out landers on Mars.

In indoor light on a focal reducer f1.4 on a 200mm prime reduces the dof to perhaps 1 metre maximum. Must be magic for indoor sports though.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Just playing around indoors with both the 135 f2 L and the Sigma 150 2.8 APO.

Both definitely are much better when used in single shot mode on the GX7 (as opposed to any drive mode) both using AFS.

And of course (DUH) the 135 is better at the .9m to infinity setting than the 1.6m to infinity setting IF you are trying to shoot something closer than 1.6m!

Still not quite native AF for both as both CAN be off with the focus (then again so can my Oly 14-42 kit lens).

The 40 2.8 pretty much gets it right all the time though....and why I am so tempted to get a 55-250 STM Canon lens to try.

The 18-55 IS ii kit lens is slower to focus and noisier as well but seems ok......a bit hit and miss too sometimes so not native but ok.

Will have to give the metabones adapter a try with my EM5.

The Kipon is cheaper but still seems a work in progress. If you were looking for dumb MF adapters to adapt from other legacy mount systems then there is a much wider range of suitable adapters to choose from.