UV/ND/Polarized filters etc...

[Martin Maier]

I also use a 43mm-58mm step up ring ... $1.25 incl.ship.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=43mm+58mm+step+up&_sop=15

 

[ChampMJG]

Polarized filters can eliminate glare when shooting in harsh lighting conditions. Works well for things such as darkening skies and eliminating reflections from leaves and water. You would need to be facing 90 degrees from the sun to achieve the effect however.

Nice, so it sounds like Polarized filter would be the most useful. Do they make lens hoods that will fit on the 30mm?

A 43mm filter would fit perfectly. As far as a lens hood is concerned I'm sure there are some cheap ones on ebay that you could purchase.

As far as prices are concerned I've never had any issues with polarizers. I have an off brand 67mm polarizer for the 85 1.4 and a tiffen 72mm polarizer for the 16-50 S.

I do have an ND filter that was my most expensive purchase. It's a Hoya 72mm ND 400. ND filters are probably the only filter that you may not want to cheap out on but I can't see myself spending upwards of $100 for them.

Best of luck with your purchase

 

[JQuonDo]

Polarized filters can eliminate glare when shooting in harsh lighting conditions. Works well for things such as darkening skies and eliminating reflections from leaves and water. You would need to be facing 90 degrees from the sun to achieve the effect however.

Nice, so it sounds like Polarized filter would be the most useful. Do they make lens hoods that will fit on the 30mm?

A 43mm filter would fit perfectly. As far as a lens hood is concerned I'm sure there are some cheap ones on ebay that you could purchase.

As far as prices are concerned I've never had any issues with polarizers. I have an off brand 67mm polarizer for the 85 1.4 and a tiffen 72mm polarizer for the 16-50 S.

I do have an ND filter that was my most expensive purchase. It's a Hoya 72mm ND 400. ND filters are probably the only filter that you may not want to cheap out on but I can't see myself spending upwards of $100 for them.

Best of luck with your purchase

What would your thoughts be on something like this

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I plan to put that on my 30mm prime

 

[wpstl]

Polarized filters can eliminate glare when shooting in harsh lighting conditions. Works well for things such as darkening skies and eliminating reflections from leaves and water. You would need to be facing 90 degrees from the sun to achieve the effect however.

Nice, so it sounds like Polarized filter would be the most useful. Do they make lens hoods that will fit on the 30mm?

A 43mm filter would fit perfectly. As far as a lens hood is concerned I'm sure there are some cheap ones on ebay that you could purchase.

As far as prices are concerned I've never had any issues with polarizers. I have an off brand 67mm polarizer for the 85 1.4 and a tiffen 72mm polarizer for the 16-50 S.

I do have an ND filter that was my most expensive purchase. It's a Hoya 72mm ND 400. ND filters are probably the only filter that you may not want to cheap out on but I can't see myself spending upwards of $100 for them.

Best of luck with your purchase

What would your thoughts be on something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Variable-Filt...qid=1439397769&sr=8-1&keywords=43mm+nd+filter

I plan to put that on my 30mm prime

I bought one to try since it's so cheap and received good reviews but it's not a good filter. Here are a couple of quick images taken seconds apart with my NX1 to show you the color difference. The first with no filters and the second with the Fotga VND:

 

[otto k]

I have similar and use it only for video when I need to keep aperture and shutter the same so I vary exposure with filter. It's not really good for photos, at some angles it can produce visible X like pattern in image. Buy a normal 3 or 4 stop ND filter and you are good to go.

I have cokin P filters (square ones that slide into holder) as they offer much flexibility but they are huge and I see myself grabbing simple Hoya ND filter more often than not.

 

[JQuonDo]

Polarized filters can eliminate glare when shooting in harsh lighting conditions. Works well for things such as darkening skies and eliminating reflections from leaves and water. You would need to be facing 90 degrees from the sun to achieve the effect however.

Nice, so it sounds like Polarized filter would be the most useful. Do they make lens hoods that will fit on the 30mm?

A 43mm filter would fit perfectly. As far as a lens hood is concerned I'm sure there are some cheap ones on ebay that you could purchase.

As far as prices are concerned I've never had any issues with polarizers. I have an off brand 67mm polarizer for the 85 1.4 and a tiffen 72mm polarizer for the 16-50 S.

I do have an ND filter that was my most expensive purchase. It's a Hoya 72mm ND 400. ND filters are probably the only filter that you may not want to cheap out on but I can't see myself spending upwards of $100 for them.

Best of luck with your purchase

What would your thoughts be on something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Variable-Filt...qid=1439397769&sr=8-1&keywords=43mm+nd+filter

I plan to put that on my 30mm prime

I bought one to try since it's so cheap and received good reviews but it's not a good filter. Here are a couple of quick images taken seconds apart with my NX1 to show you the color difference. The first with no filters and the second with the Fotga VND:

The first image seems better...I'm so torn on what to do. lol.

 

[tecnoworld]

Thx a lot! I'd like the 72mm size. Is there available?

 

[ChampMJG]

Polarized filters can eliminate glare when shooting in harsh lighting conditions. Works well for things such as darkening skies and eliminating reflections from leaves and water. You would need to be facing 90 degrees from the sun to achieve the effect however.

Nice, so it sounds like Polarized filter would be the most useful. Do they make lens hoods that will fit on the 30mm?

A 43mm filter would fit perfectly. As far as a lens hood is concerned I'm sure there are some cheap ones on ebay that you could purchase.

As far as prices are concerned I've never had any issues with polarizers. I have an off brand 67mm polarizer for the 85 1.4 and a tiffen 72mm polarizer for the 16-50 S.

I do have an ND filter that was my most expensive purchase. It's a Hoya 72mm ND 400. ND filters are probably the only filter that you may not want to cheap out on but I can't see myself spending upwards of $100 for them.

Best of luck with your purchase

What would your thoughts be on something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Variable-Filt...qid=1439397769&sr=8-1&keywords=43mm+nd+filter

I plan to put that on my 30mm prime

Here's the thing about the ND filters...

The cheaper, non adjustable ones usually have color issues, image degrading issues or even things such as fringing if I remember correctly. Same for the cheaper variable ND filters that also have the "X" factor as an additional problem. If you can live with these potential issues then you have no worries.

I too was in your same position and thought a variable ND would be my best option because of the flexibility. It seems the general consensus is that only the more expensive ones in the $100+ range have none of the issues mentioned above.

I ultimately made the compromise of flexibility and just searched image samples for fixed ND filters. I liked everything I saw from ND 400 filters and I felt the price I paid was well worth it. My polarizers are my cheap filters, however. Never had any issues with them.

 

[ChampMJG]

Thx a lot! I'd like the 72mm size. Is there available?

I'm sure there is. Step up rings sell like potato chips on ebay or Amazon. Bought a 67mm to 72mm step up ring for my rokinon 12mm for under $3 USD to use with my ND 400

 

[Martin Maier]

This is caused by physics of light A variable ND filter consists of TWO pol filters, one linear, the other circular. You will get SAME results with var.ND filters for 20x price!

Such a var.ND filter isn't usable in all positions! Perhaps - for seldom use - it's better to buy a ND400 only - which doesn't consists of pol filter(s)

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[Martin Maier]

It's a good idea to buy a BIG pol filter and use one or two step-up rings - then you get no vignetting with wide angle lenses.

Attention with ultra wide angle lenses - you will get "different blues" for heaven, depending of angle of light.

I have only ONE (62mm) var.ND filter ... seldom used!

 

[otto k]

No, they are just two polarizing filters on top of each other (linear). When in same orientation you get around 1 stop (just like there was only one polarizing filter plus any loss due to glass itself, etc), when at 90 degrees they effectively block almost all light (they would if they were prefect). That's the main difference when compared to real ND filter which attenuates light of all polarizations equally - with variable ND filter you always get polarization effect whether you want it or not.

 

[otto k]

Here's an article with everything one ever wanted to know on polarizing filters
http://www.lenstip.com/115.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test.html

Edit : regarding circular versus linear polarizing filters, DSLR cameras can have issues with metering when using linear, mirrorless cameras should work with both correctly. Variable nd filters for dslr cameras have circular, cheapest variable nd filters use linear. On above link is also a procedure to test what kind of filter you have.

Edit, another useful link about variable ND filter
http://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/tiffen-variable-filter-field-test

 

[JQuonDo]

It's a good idea to buy a BIG pol filter and use one or two step-up rings - then you get no vignetting with wide angle lenses.

Attention with ultra wide angle lenses - you will get "different blues" for heaven, depending of angle of light.

I have only ONE (62mm) var.ND filter ... seldom used!

Question...

So, I have a 30mm pancake lens with a 43mm diameter. I'm going to purchase a step up ring

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and get this polarized filter

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Does that mean if I'm to purchase a lens hood, I would be purchasing a 58mm lens hood, because I have the step up ring?

 

[JQuonDo]

Here's an article with everything one ever wanted to know on polarizing filters
http://www.lenstip.com/115.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test.html

Edit : regarding circular versus linear polarizing filters, DSLR cameras can have issues with metering when using linear, mirrorless cameras should work with both correctly. Variable nd filters for dslr cameras have circular, cheapest variable nd filters use linear. On above link is also a procedure to test what kind of filter you have.

Edit, another useful link about variable ND filter
http://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/tiffen-variable-filter-field-test

Question...

So, I have a 30mm pancake lens with a 43mm diameter. I'm going to purchase a step up ring

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J3HB78...UTF8&colid=144Q9YL5WTMXN&coliid=IJ6PC298MH0FV

and get this polarized filter

http://www.amazon.com/Tiffen-43CP-C...9417692&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=tiffen+43mm+pol

Does that mean if I'm to purchase a lens hood, I would be purchasing a 58mm lens hood, because I have the step up ring?

 

[wpstl]

This is caused by physics of light A variable ND filter consists of TWO pol filters, one linear, the other circular. You will get SAME results with var.ND filters for 20x price!

Such a var.ND filter isn't usable in all positions! Perhaps - for seldom use - it's better to buy a ND400 only - which doesn't consists of pol filter(s)

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...kw=filter+nd400+-nd2+-nd3+-nd4&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

That color shift is not due to the "physics of light". There are a number of (more expensive) Variable Neutral Density filters with much less color shift. I'm not saying they are all perfectly neutral in color but they are much less severe than this.

There's no question it would be better to buy an ND400 only. Variable NDs are compromises and will not give the performance of a regular ND filter. I know you are a proponent of inexpensive filters but my testing has shown the less you pay the less you get. Even with an ND400 you need to spend a little more to avoid drastic shifts in color.

 

[otto k]

Seriously? You are buying 43mm filter for almost 80 usd when the same thing at 58mm is under 22 usd (click on Size 43mm button on the product page to see other sizes and prices)? You have 43-58 step up ring, save 60 bucks and buy 58mm filter. And, yes, a 58mm screw in hood.

You have to understand that 58mm is very very popular with numerous DSLR lenses using it and as such is almost always the cheapest due to sheer number of them. Just see this, 43mm filter used around half of material of 58mm filter but it's still almost four times more expensive...

 

[JQuonDo]

Seriously? You are buying 43mm filter for almost 80 usd when the same thing at 58mm is under 22 usd (click on Size 43mm button on the product page to see other sizes and prices)? You have 43-58 step up ring, save 60 bucks and buy 58mm filter. And, yes, a 58mm screw in hood.

You have to understand that 58mm is very very popular with numerous DSLR lenses using it and as such is almost always the cheapest due to sheer number of them. Just see this, 43mm filter used around half of material of 58mm filter but it's still almost four times more expensive...

I was never considering the 43mm, I was asking for the setup which is the 58mm with the 43-58mm step up. And the 43mm that's listed for 77 is actually an inaccurate price, if you click the "new" link it's actually for 17.29 or something.

The reason why I'm asking about getting the 58mm instead is because of the reason you stated in regards to vignetting. I also wanted to make sure I purchase the right hood (58mm versus 43mm). I plan to use it with the 16-50 pz as well and at 16 it's wide.

But currently i still own the 20-50 and will sell it for the 16-50 pz.

 

[otto k]

Sorry, misunderstood you. Yes, you need 43-58 step up ring, 58mm filter and 58mm screw in hood. The model of the hood depends on what you want to use it for, wide angle will have to be shorter, tele prefers deeper hood. 30mm should not be prone to flaring so even short hood works.

 

[Martin Maier]

Pol filters have same diameter male/female - var.ND filters often not ... female > male.

If you use adapter ring 43-58 + pol filter 58mm you should buy a 58mm lenshood - but attention! - your wideangle lens can make VIGNETTING with lenshood - if it is not suitable (with ad.ring + filter) for wide angle.