Apple Music question

[novetan]

I just read the website on Apple Music and understand the music will be stored in iCloud. It will gather all your current music datas in iTunes and combined with whatever new music you intend to download and store it in iCloud. I went thru all the FAQ but never did it state that we must pay for storage. Perhaps Apple has intentionally circumvert this obvious question. Currently my music file amt to 115 GB and counting.

How much would I have to pay? Storage can't be free right?

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[johnbandry]

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[photoeng]

I've been using itunes match for a couple years. Incredible value in my opinion. $20/year and I have access to my entire mp3 collection through any itunes device. I estimate my collection is around 25 gigs.

no additional cost for the storage.

This is the plain old itunes match product... not whatever new streaming service they have.

What I really love is telling Siri to play whatever song I want to hear from my collection and it just "magically" starts up.

 

[Soreno]

I am currently, like everybody out there, on the 3 month trial subscription. If I cancel the subscription after these 3 months, will I be able to keep/save the music as MP3s? I mean the downloaded ones. This is not clear to me yet...

 

[Brian OReilly]

Really simple answer...

The 3 month subscription is for the 'Streaming Service'

You can still buy and download music as before

You can choose to store this downloaded music in a variety of places, local or iCloud

Brian

 

[Tom_N]

I am currently, like everybody out there, on the 3 month trial subscription. If I cancel the subscription after these 3 months, will I be able to keep/save the music as MP3s? I mean the downloaded ones. This is not clear to me yet...

No. It's a streaming plan, not an ownership one. While you can download files for offline use, that's so that you can avoid the need for an always-on Internet connection and so that you can reduce the need to burn through cellular data allowances.

Downloaded Apple Music files are presumably DRMed so that they will stop working in the event that you cancel your subscription.

http://www.macworld.com/article/293...ts-of-apples-new-streaming-music-service.html

So it's not the same as buying a CD and loading the music from it into iTunes, or buying songs and albums from the iTunes Store.

 

[TheHawk28]

Howdy...

Besides the "heavy" interface I find the service pretty good for now . How about the family plan? Is it one account that can be used on several devices or are there several accounts that can be linked?

Novetan, you won´t have to pay for the storage. The price is strictly for the streaming service.

Soreno, you won´t be able to keep the files as you are only kind of "renting" them.

As longs as you pay for the service you can save the Apple Music files so that you can take advantage of them even offline and avoid overusage of cellular , like Tom_N says, but that´s it.

If you want to have the files afterwards also, you will have to use a recording/streaming software, in my opinion. There are lots of them on the internet, Tunebite Audials might be one alternative for you. However, I don´t know if the Apple regulations would allow that

 

[William Carson]

I just read the website on Apple Music and understand the music will be stored in iCloud. It will gather all your current music datas in iTunes and combined with whatever new music you intend to download and store it in iCloud. I went thru all the FAQ but never did it state that we must pay for storage. Perhaps Apple has intentionally circumvert this obvious question. Currently my music file amt to 115 GB and counting.

How much would I have to pay? Storage can't be free right?

http://www.apple.com/sg/music/membership/

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This might be important to look at before sync your iTunes library with iCloud:

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[Tom_N]

This might be important to look at before sync your iTunes library with iCloud:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/07/04/apple-music-icloud-music-broken/

A good reason to always keep backups of things like your iTunes Library or iPhoto/Aperture library, especially before upgrading to a new version of the software.

The behavior described in the linked article sounds like an out and out BUG, and a very major one at that. Rental tracks should NEVER overwrite purchased/ripped tracks on your Mac or PC. Adding "duplicate" rental copies of albums to your library is one thing. Destroying / corrupting purchased music is bad, and if iTunes has this bug, one wonders why Apple didn't catch it during testing.

 

[gaussian blur]

The behavior described in the linked article sounds like an out and out BUG, and a very major one at that. Rental tracks should NEVER overwrite purchased/ripped tracks on your Mac or PC. Adding "duplicate" rental copies of albums to your library is one thing. Destroying / corrupting purchased music is bad, and if iTunes has this bug, one wonders why Apple didn't catch it during testing.

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-not-adding-drm-songs-your-mac-you-already-own
Also, this is how disinformation like "iCloud Music Library is DRMing all the music on my Mac!" gets disseminated. Because if you upload all your music to iCloud Music Library, then delete it, then redownload it to your Mac, iCloud is going to assume you're downloading that track onto an auxiliary device, and send you the matched tracks. Which have DRM on them.

 

[William Carson]

The behavior described in the linked article sounds like an out and out BUG, and a very major one at that. Rental tracks should NEVER overwrite purchased/ripped tracks on your Mac or PC. Adding "duplicate" rental copies of albums to your library is one thing. Destroying / corrupting purchased music is bad, and if iTunes has this bug, one wonders why Apple didn't catch it during testing.

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-not-adding-drm-songs-your-mac-you-already-own
Also, this is how disinformation like "iCloud Music Library is DRMing all the music on my Mac!" gets disseminated. Because if you upload all your music to iCloud Music Library, then delete it, then redownload it to your Mac, iCloud is going to assume you're downloading that track onto an auxiliary device, and send you the matched tracks. Which have DRM on them.

Not disagreeing - But, what would actually happen when someone who has no backups to their long collected personal collection of specific versions of songs without thinking (yes, it happens) goes through the sync up with the cloud of the new apple music and assumes all is well and pushes the 'yes' button. Opps! Hey, what happened to my personal stuff? Is this a bug or just the expected result of a clueless apple user? If a person's stuff is deleted, then it is an issue. Probably more than extremely rare. People are a lot more clueless than you would think. So, some clearly stated results of pushing the 'yes' button is a good idea.

 

[SamTrekker]

As long as you're carefully curating what's yours with evidence of purchases and paying the Monthly fees, all is well. Once you stop paying, everything goes Poof! You're then at the mercy of the iTunes Store AI curator determining what's yours or not on any of your iTunes enabled devices that has Media indexed by it. In the eventuality that there's a discrapancy of the matter, the preponderance is yours to show evidence otherwise!

Welcome to the New World Order that is The Cloud! Be it iCloud or not. The whole idea is for you to keep paying and you supposedly don't have to worry about it then... (cue sinister laugh)

The behavior described in the linked article sounds like an out and out BUG, and a very major one at that. Rental tracks should NEVER overwrite purchased/ripped tracks on your Mac or PC. Adding "duplicate" rental copies of albums to your library is one thing. Destroying / corrupting purchased music is bad, and if iTunes has this bug, one wonders why Apple didn't catch it during testing.

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-not-adding-drm-songs-your-mac-you-already-own
Also, this is how disinformation like "iCloud Music Library is DRMing all the music on my Mac!" gets disseminated. Because if you upload all your music to iCloud Music Library, then delete it, then redownload it to your Mac, iCloud is going to assume you're downloading that track onto an auxiliary device, and send you the matched tracks. Which have DRM on them.

Not disagreeing - But, what would actually happen when someone who has no backups to their long collected personal collection of specific versions of songs without thinking (yes, it happens) goes through the sync up with the cloud of the new apple music and assumes all is well and pushes the 'yes' button. Opps! Hey, what happened to my personal stuff? Is this a bug or just the expected result of a clueless apple user? If a person's stuff is deleted, then it is an issue. Probably more than extremely rare. People are a lot more clueless than you would think. So, some clearly stated results of pushing the 'yes' button is a good idea.

 

[Tom_N]

As long as you're carefully curating what's yours with evidence of purchases and paying the Monthly fees, all is well. Once you stop paying, everything goes Poof! You're then at the mercy of the iTunes Store AI curator determining what's yours or not on any of your iTunes enabled devices that has Media indexed by it. In the eventuality that there's a discrapancy of the matter, the preponderance is yours to show evidence otherwise!

It should be a simple job for iTunes to determine what is an Apple Music file and what is not. All Apple Music files should have a metadata tag that could never be present by accident on a purchased file (whether purchased from iTunes or somewhere else, and whether DRMed or not). This should be separate from the DRM if there is any question of the Apple Music file DRM getting confused with the DRM used on current or past iTunes Store purchases.

Since this is such an obvious requirement, I would be surprised if Apple Music files do not already have such a tag.

 

[noirdesir]

The behavior described in the linked article sounds like an out and out BUG, and a very major one at that. Rental tracks should NEVER overwrite purchased/ripped tracks on your Mac or PC. Adding "duplicate" rental copies of albums to your library is one thing. Destroying / corrupting purchased music is bad, and if iTunes has this bug, one wonders why Apple didn't catch it during testing.

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-not-adding-drm-songs-your-mac-you-already-own
Also, this is how disinformation like "iCloud Music Library is DRMing all the music on my Mac!" gets disseminated. Because if you upload all your music to iCloud Music Library, then delete it, then redownload it to your Mac, iCloud is going to assume you're downloading that track onto an auxiliary device, and send you the matched tracks. Which have DRM on them.

Not disagreeing - But, what would actually happen when someone who has no backups to their long collected personal collection of specific versions of songs without thinking (yes, it happens) goes through the sync up with the cloud of the new apple music and assumes all is well and pushes the 'yes' button. Opps! Hey, what happened to my personal stuff?

What happens is what always happens when something goes wrong and you don't have a backup.

 

[novetan]

Wow, thks guys for all the unputs and insight.

Cheers