DXO opticspro - Lightroom export: dng or tiff?

[Dr Tone]

It's pretty simple:

If you want your color adjustments in DXO to stick then you need to export as TIFF to Lightroom.

If you use DXO for lens correction and noise reduction only and want to do all color work in Lightroom export as DNG.

I export to DNG as I find Lightroom does everything better besides lens correction/sharpening and Prime noise reduction. Plus DNG files end up being smaller.

 

[Shangri La]

Hi Bill,

I'm using LR4 and DXO OP10. LR4 doesn't give the option of sending a file as DNG to OP10.

The option is 'Edit a copy with Lightroom Adjustments' (others are 'greyed').

'Copy FIle Options' are Tiff, PSD or JPG - none of which OP10 will allow Prime processing.

The DNG was converted from an ORF file (OM-D) using Adobe DNG converter. Perhaps there's something in the setting when I converted the ORF to DNG that won't allow the editing? The 'Edit Original' option in LR4 though already states that this is not applicable to a RAW file.

Ultimately the idea was to use LR4 as a DAM and then convert to DXO for further processing and back again. However it would appear one would have to start with OP10 and then export to LR - which negates the advantage of LR4 DAM.

Mysteriously, DXO considers DNG a 'RAW" and not a TIFF file.

Anyway, I'll most probably opt to Capture 1 Pro as the best of both worlds. The things I'll miss with DXO are PRIME and the comprehensive lens modules in DXO and the rendition of images 'out of the box'.

 

[billythek]

This short tutorial from DxO might help: http://www.dxo.com/us/photography/c...-your-dxo-opticspro-10-and-lightroom-workflow

You should find the option to export to DxO OpticsPro under 'Plugin-Extras' instead of under 'Export'. If you do not see this then you may need to re-install the plugin. This FAQ entry might help with that if you are using LR on Windows: http://support.dxo.com/entries/102035873-How-Can-I-reinstall-Adobe-Lightroom-plugin-

This plugin will allow DxO to open the original RAW without converting to TIFF (or other). DxO will then create a linear DNG to send back to LR, which will automatically be stacked with the original file.

Oh, right, to the OP: look under the plugin extras menu.
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- Bill

 

[Antony John]

This short tutorial from DxO might help: http://www.dxo.com/us/photography/c...-your-dxo-opticspro-10-and-lightroom-workflow

You should find the option to export to DxO OpticsPro under 'Plugin-Extras' instead of under 'Export'. If you do not see this then you may need to re-install the plugin. This FAQ entry might help with that if you are using LR on Windows: http://support.dxo.com/entries/102035873-How-Can-I-reinstall-Adobe-Lightroom-plugin-

This plugin will allow DxO to open the original RAW without converting to TIFF (or other). DxO will then create a linear DNG to send back to LR, which will automatically be stacked with the original file.

Thanks for the information Waterside - certainly works this way round.

I was expecting DXO to operate like the NIK software and just use 'Edit with' where the NIK software opens using 'Edit With' and then returns one back to LR once save (or cancel) is chosen in the NIK software.

 

[billythek]

This short tutorial from DxO might help: http://www.dxo.com/us/photography/c...-your-dxo-opticspro-10-and-lightroom-workflow

You should find the option to export to DxO OpticsPro under 'Plugin-Extras' instead of under 'Export'. If you do not see this then you may need to re-install the plugin. This FAQ entry might help with that if you are using LR on Windows: http://support.dxo.com/entries/102035873-How-Can-I-reinstall-Adobe-Lightroom-plugin-

This plugin will allow DxO to open the original RAW without converting to TIFF (or other). DxO will then create a linear DNG to send back to LR, which will automatically be stacked with the original file.

Thanks for the information Waterside - certainly works this way round.

I was expecting DXO to operate like the NIK software and just use 'Edit with' where the NIK software opens using 'Edit With' and then returns one back to LR once save (or cancel) is chosen in the NIK software.

 

[Antony John]

I also have LR4 and demoing DXO and Capture One Pro. I really like the results from DXO and how easy it is to use. The main drawback is it has no DAM capability and runs slooow. I really want to like C1Pro as a RAW/DAM 2-in-1 solution, but I have difficulty matching DXO results (which I'm sure is due to my inexperience). Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with compromises...

That's the catch. Both excel in different areas:

DXO Prime Noise Reduction, 'Out of box' image rendering, simple controls, extensive Lens/camera modules.

CP1: Dam, better portrait colours (Out of box), better highlight recovery, Layers and local adjustments.

Based on a limited time with trials I should add.

+$50 difference I think for CP1. Depends on what's important to one.

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AJ
Carpe diem - or not ...

 

[Antony John]

One key difference is you are not passing a raw file to Nik when you do Edit in.
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- Bill

Thanks again for your help Bill.

Question still remains though, which is 'more RAW than the other' - DNG or TIFF (Based on what DXO consider as RAW I'd have said TIFF would contain the more 'basic' i.e. 'raw' information).

 

[billythek]

One key difference is you are not passing a raw file to Nik when you do Edit in.
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- Bill

Thanks again for your help Bill.

Question still remains though, which is 'more RAW than the other' - DNG or TIFF (Based on what DXO consider as RAW I'd have said TIFF would contain the more 'basic' i.e. 'raw' information).

 

[Waterside]

The linear DNG created by DxO Optics Pro is also de-mosaiced. This is largely why DxO OP is unable to re-read the DNGs it creates itself and is why the DNGs it creates are generally quite a bit larger than the original RAW files.

 

[billythek]

The linear DNG created by DxO Optics Pro is also de-mosaiced. This is largely why DxO OP is unable to re-read the DNGs it creates itself and is why the DNGs it creates are generally quite a bit larger than the original RAW files.

That is also true. There is a big difference between a normal DNG file and a linear DNG file.
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- Bill