SD9 vs. SD1M . .

[trog100]

yes but what puzzles me is i prefer the image on the right my a mile.. not by minuscule nit picking standards but by a mile..

i deliberately didnt check too deeply into which camera took which image so as not to cloud my perceptions.. should i be seeing this or are my perceptions skewed.. hence my comment about not being sure as regards what i should be seeing.. i did try and make allowance for the reflections in the left hand image which do make it even worse when compared to the right hand image..

i simply see one image as being far better than the other image.. if i am correct in what i see (i may not be) what is the discussion about..

do i trust my perceptive judgement.. not entirely but i hope in this case i am right in what i see.. if not i should start to worry..

trog

quite what i am supposed to be seeing i am not sure

Two shots by two different cameras using the same lens and settings; developed by the appropriate converter in each case; opened in FastStone Viewer as a side-by-side comparison.

SD9 shot is at left; therefore you preferred the Merrill.

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Pedantry is not a felony.
Ted

 

[xpatUSA]

yes but what puzzles me is i prefer the image on the right my a mile.. not by minuscule nit picking standards but by a mile..

i deliberately didnt check too deeply into which camera took which image so as not to cloud my perceptions.. should i be seeing this or are my perceptions skewed.. hence my comment about not being sure as regards what i should be seeing.. i did try and make allowance for the reflections in the left hand image which do make it even worse when compared to the right hand image..

i simply see one image as being far better than the other image.. if i am correct in what i see (i may not be) what is the discussion about..

do i trust my perceptive judgement.. not entirely but i hope in this case i am right in what i see.. if not i should start to worry..

Trog, the post wasn't meant to be a test of people's judgement. In fact, you could say it was more a reaction to all those DP1M-vs-DP2M-vs-DP3M-vs-Quattro-vs-you-name-it threads involving much minutiae and speculation.

I kind of was trying to show that, for similar image sizes, the oldest and newest Sigma DSLR's are much of a muchness with the advantage going to the Merrill at right. But, I could probably make them equal with some post-processing, eh?

 

[trog100]

i am showing my sigma ignorance here.. i wasnt aware of what the SD9 is or its history..

for small images i would agree you could tweak the left image more.. but for larger images there is no substitute for more mega pixels.. more mega pixels and larger images being the main improvement over the last ten years..

downsize any image enough and they will all look the same.. sadly it dosnt work the other way.. if only it did.. he he

i do now take the point of your thread though.. i missed it before..

trog

 

[Zone8]

xpatUSA wrote: Like your good self, I have a healthy dislike of reflecting surfaces ;-)

With a convex mirror, the image of the reflection is actually ON the mirror's surface. So why, in a flat mirror, is it stated to be the same distance behind as the subject is in front. It obviously cannot be behind - impossible. Ask any wall on which the mirror hangs. As the convex mirror in effect has the reflected image on its surface all over, then surely at any specific dot part, it should also be behind, as that tiny bit is, in effect, flat to all intents and purposes. You can photograph a reflected image on a convex mirror just by focusing ON the mirror - so the reflection and, say, the mirror's frame will be equally in focus. Focus on the reflection in a flat mirror and you will have focused on twice the distance to the mirror, so the frame would be well out of focus.

I know scientists will "prove" that the reflection for the flat mirror is same distance behind as the subject is in front. BUT no one has ever explained why that does not apply to any mirror - convex especially included which although curved - is really only thousands of flat bits stuck together.

To me, with yonks of practical experience of life, most scientific theories, including the advanced solar system theories, are as valid as stating a bottle is empty, when it is clearly full of something .... like say air, as are many of the so-called advanced scientists, although theirs' is more accurately described as being "hot air" - because whatever they surmise - none of them has yet been proven to be truly true.

Here endeth the first wotsit. The important thing is I am sticking with my SD9 and SD14 (I do have an SD10 given as a prezzie from friend - but have not yet used) and my objective is to continue making fantasmarorically wunnerfool images - as prints.

As Sleeping Beauty once said, when she had taken her first roll of film and sent away for processing:

"Some day, my prints will come".

 

[Neil-H]

One on the right looks nicer.