I am at a loss what to buy for a computer to run Photoshop and more..

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I do photography, digital scrapbooking, I use cut files in my Silhouette software, having to have them both open at all times and just a hoarder when it comes to having open programs available at my fingertips.

So I go down to Costco and found this..

Dell Inspiron 300 series, Model 3847.

Performance 4th gen intel core i7 - 4790 processor

(8M Cache up to 4.0 GHz)

16 GB Memory 1TB HD

Integrated intel HD Graphics.

My husband is a computer guy and said he could have found me a better computer for the same price, $600 I think it was pretty much box and keyboard only, but I don't know what to look for as far as specs and and he knows nothing about photoshop.

Will this be good? I can't afford a $4000. system. I don't sell my work anymore but I am not a patient woman when it comes to slow computers. Should I open the box?

I have been using Creative Cloud but I am going to go back to PSCS6.

Thanks in advance!
 
Will this be good? I can't afford a $4000. system. I don't sell my work anymore but I am not a patient woman when it comes to slow computers. Should I open the box?
Yup, it will work pretty well. You may find the same a little cheaper if you shops the deal, but not dramatically. And you'll pay a lot more for anything significantly faster.

And, if you don't like it for any reason, Costco have more than fair returns policies.
 
If your husband is a computer guy, then don't waste your time with anything pre-built. Especially if you are not patient with computers. The system's specifications look promising, you really should be looking for a system with a solid state drive for your programs, and a 1 TB or so regular hard drive for your pictures and other things. Especially for programs like Photoshop and Lightroom.

I do photography, digital scrapbooking, I use cut files in my Silhouette software, having to have them both open at all times and just a hoarder when it comes to having open programs available at my fingertips.

So I go down to Costco and found this..

Dell Inspiron 300 series, Model 3847.

Performance 4th gen intel core i7 - 4790 processor

(8M Cache up to 4.0 GHz)

16 GB Memory 1TB HD

Integrated intel HD Graphics.

My husband is a computer guy and said he could have found me a better computer for the same price, $600 I think it was pretty much box and keyboard only, but I don't know what to look for as far as specs and and he knows nothing about photoshop.

Will this be good? I can't afford a $4000. system. I don't sell my work anymore but I am not a patient woman when it comes to slow computers. Should I open the box?

I have been using Creative Cloud but I am going to go back to PSCS6.

Thanks in advance!
 
I use external 1TB drive for storage of pictures and another 1TB drive for scrapbooking. He doesn't want to build one, he just thought he could get more for the money I just wanna be sure it will do the job!
 
Now get a 2TB external drive to back up your other drives and you should be all set.
 
You can find tons of really excellent computers for way under $1000. Just as a basis for comparison, before I upgraded my laptop, it had (and still has) a bottom of the barrel i7 processor, an anemic hard drive and only 4 GB of ram. It ran full-on Photoshop CS6 and Photo Mechanic just fine.

Any desktop you find will have a FAR more powerful processor and 8-16 GB of ram. Optional goodies would be a SSD (which really perks things up!), a decent monitor, and an external hard drive for photo backup.
 
That same system sells for $799 directly from Dell. See more about it here:

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-3847-desktop/pd?oc=fdcwrt220h&model_id=inspiron-3847-desktop

So, you got good deal on it for $599 from Costco (especially since they extend the warranty by an extra year).

On the downside, it only has 2 DIMM Slots for memory, meaning it's "maxed out" at 16GB using 2x8GB.

But, 16GB is more than enough memory for all but the most demanding users. Heck, I've only got 12GB of DDR3 in my current desktop (a Dell XPS 8500), and I have seen no issues that would require more for the way I use a computer.

The Power Supply in the Dell model you purchased would not support a really high end video card for more demanding gaming use (IOW, you may need to stick with more conservative settings with some games, versus the "Ultra" type settings) if you wanted to upgrade it's video card.

But, you can buy a pretty decent card now that would work in it's PCIe x16 slot if you needed something more powerful than the Integrated Intel graphics chipset

For example, this Super Clocked Nividia GTX 750Ti model is very popular, and will work in a system with a 300 Watt Power Supply:

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=zg_bs_284822_8

But, the integrated Intel graphics should be fine for most purposes, except for use with more demanding games. Also as time passes, you'll see faster and faster video cards that will work with lower power requirements.

Now, the latest "Smart Sharpen" filter in PHotoshop CC may be faster with a nicer video card (and the Nvidia GTX 750ti would be a good choice that you could plug into that system). But, most other PHotoshop features should work fine with the Intel Integrated Graphics (and BTW, a faster video card will not help anything with Lightroom, as it does not support GPU accelerated features).

Basically, it sounds like you found a pretty decent deal, with a computer using a very fast Core i7 4790 CPU, 16GB of memory, etc; at a really nice price point.

That's more than enough computer for most any need, even using higher end software for raw conversion, etc.; unless you're into gaming (in which case you'd probably want a system with a higher wattage power supply with a fast dedicated video card). But, I've upgraded similar Dell systems myself in the past (just buying a higher wattage power supply on sale from newegg, then adding a fast video card).

But, again, you could upgrade the video card to something dramatically faster than the Integrated Intel Graphics just by plugging in a card (like the GTX 750Ti series cards that will work with a 300 Watt PSU, without upgrading your Power Supply. IOW only "hard core" gamers wanting to use very high end video cards for the very fastest frame rates possible using the highest game settings may need to do something like a Power Supply upgrade.

So, I'd probably keep it if I were you, as you could always add a fast video card to it later (and even update it's power supply if you wanted a really high end gaming card), add an SSD to it if desired for the OS and Programs, etc. (but, I think you'll find that although an SSD is great for boot and program load times, it's really not going to help with processing speed using apps like Photoshop, so SSDs tend to be over rated).

I've got one myself (Samsung 830 Series SSD that I installed myself in my Dell XPS 8500 Desktop for the OS and Programs). But, frankly, since i don't reboot my system very often and programs I use more often are already going to be in the Operating System's disk cache in memory, for most practical purposes, it's not helping much.

Now... Costco does have some good deals on the XPS 8700, too. They have higher wattage power supplies, come with a dedicated graphics card, have more memory slots available (4 slots allowing up to 32GB total using 4x8GB); and more. For example, something like this $599 config using a Core i5 CPU:

http://www.costco.com/Dell-XPS-8700-Desktop-|-Intel-Core-i5-|-1GB-Graphics.product.100152990.html

It's more expandable and includes a dedicated video card (although not a high performance card). But, it's using a slower CPU (although you probably won't notice much difference with most apps) with 12GB (versus 16GB) of memory; but expandable to up to 32GB. So, it may be worth a closer look if you don't like the model you purchased for some reason

Or, move up to a model using the same Core i7 4790 CPU your new system came with. Costco has multiple XPS 8700 systems available equipped with the Core i7 4790.

Or, or at what Dell currently offers directly (but, you would have an advantage of an extra year warranty with Costco, that you'd have to pay for if buying a system directly from Dell).

There are pros and cons to any of them. But, on the surface, the box you purchased should handle most anything you'd need (including editing with Photoshop), as that Core i7 4790 CPU is a very nice processor, and 16GB of DDR3 should be more than enough for most any purpose.

Personally, I'd probably buy a refurbished XPS 8700 with a Core i7 4790 in it, adding more memory, etc. myself. I've bought 7 refurbished Dell computers over the last 10+ years for me and wife to use (including my current XPS 8500 desktop, an Inspiron 15 laptop I use, a Dell 11Z netbook our niece is using now, and others). I just look for bargains on the Dell refurbished computers, and add more memory, etc. myself later.

Again, there are pros and cons to any of them.

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That will do nicely, with one caveat...

You might want to get an SSD, and install the OS there. Use the other drive for images etc.
 
The 4790 is one of the newer consumer Intel chips (still using DDR3) and hence has excellent performance. I googled The Dell 3847, and every model I found that was the same price or cheaper was an i3 or i5.

$600 is about the basement you are going to find in terms of price for *any* commercial i7. If you aren't a gamer this is a good deal.
 
$600 is about the basement you are going to find in terms of price for *any* commercial i7. If you aren't a gamer this is a good deal.
Seems so. Of course there may be scope to build a faster 6-core i7 or old dual Xeon setup for such a price, but I don't think that i7 is a drastic mistake. The 1TB HD is not worth an awful lot and some SSD + any old HD would do better.

I would prefer the warranty on individual parts rather than the entire system being out of action until somebody else services it.
 
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That's an incredible price for a Core i7, with 16GB of memory you'll be well set for photo editing, even pretty well set for video editing.

It would be inadequate for gaming with high end games (i.e. first person shooters, high resolution simulators, etc), but with casual games or strategy games it would be perfectly fine too.

If you had more cash to spend two suggestions

1) Switch the HDD to a SSD - you can buy a SSD for less than $100 and switch the current drive over to the SSD after you buy the machine

2) You might want a larger HDD in the long term, but you can buy that later and just add a second HDD.

Roland.
 

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