F/4 is plenty sharp and gives great subject separation

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Even after reading multiple reviews about how this lens was "soft" at f/4 or not sharp enough at f/4 or how f/4 was not a bright enough aperture to provide good background blur or subject separation, I ordered and received one of them last week. Today I had my first chance to use this lens outdoors for something other than a test shot when a couple of Great Horned Owls stopped by. The day was a bit overcast, but still plenty of light.

The first photo was taken on a Sony A7R at 200mm f/4 at 1/200s autofocus on APS-C crop (300mm equiv.). I think it is magnificent, both in sharpness and subject separation. I suppose the sharpness could have been even better if I had used manual focus or set the autofocus on the bird's face or chest instead of what appears to be the tree branch.

I also have included a shot at full frame resolution so you can check out the corners.

Yes, it is a little big and expensive, and I never liked white lenses, but what a job it can do.



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Your image looks nice

If you are happy, thats the most important.
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I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.
 
I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.
 
I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.
honestly, camera movement isn't really the issue because elsewhere in the frame things are sharp enough to discount movement blur, what I see is a slightly soft image, and focus is not as perfect as it could be, AF not knowing exactly what to focus on...

There is nothing wrong with 200/4, it's not 200/1.8 that's for sure it's at the slower end of the sweet spot of size and speed, 200/2.8 being at the faster end.
 
I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.
 
Doesn't look that way, both are barely in focus and there is no separation or focus on anything in particular?

Let me just get this right, this is a 36mp FF camera?
 
I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.
 
Exactly! Either the lens is soft at f4 or there is slight camera movement. After down loading for a careful inspection I would say the lens is simply soft at f4. And



Subject movement
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yes, there is definitely subject movement. I would certainly use a higher ISO as you suggested.



I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.

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Seem to have bad focus, som leaves are sharper.

but why ISO 50?

Iso 200 would have given a good IQ (at least as good) and 4 times faster speed ?


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Steve Bingham
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www.ghost-town-photography.com
 
I find this lens great. I think those having trouble with image quality never have used this lens themselves. Also tracking AF is actually very good with the A7.
 
This is terrible performance, especially for a $1,500 lens but as others have mentioned it could be a shutter speed and missed focus issue. Having said that, the 70-200 I had was horrible. I returned it.

 
I will try to be kind, but both images show camera movement. The second image also shows subject movement in addition to camera movement. I would suggest that next time you shoot at 1/500. The A7r (and I have one) is notorious for producing camera vibration at shutter speeds between 1/50 and 1/100. To avoid this use higher shutter speeds or a tripod. This will give you much better sharpness.

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Steve Bingham
www.dustylens.com
www.ghost-town-photography.com
I concur. I see motion blur and I find the images to be anything but tack sharp.

-Brian
 
I agree, Dan. But it's the nature of the beast. To quote Photozone and their test with the A7r and 70-200 f4: The resolution is generally on a very high level except at 200mm @ f/4 where the corners are too soft. When I look at their resolution numbers I have to absolutely agree. As a hobbyist? Fine. As a professional? Nope.
This is terrible performance, especially for a $1,500 lens but as others have mentioned it could be a shutter speed and missed focus issue. Having said that, the 70-200 I had was horrible. I returned it.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3771075
 
I agree, Dan. But it's the nature of the beast. To quote Photozone and their test with the A7r and 70-200 f4: The resolution is generally on a very high level except at 200mm @ f/4 where the corners are too soft. When I look at their resolution numbers I have to absolutely agree. As a hobbyist? Fine. As a professional? Nope.
This is terrible performance, especially for a $1,500 lens but as others have mentioned it could be a shutter speed and missed focus issue. Having said that, the 70-200 I had was horrible. I returned it.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3771075
 

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