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Three New A-mount Lens coming at 2015 :-)
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nandbytes
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Awesome, tho not sure 16-35mm really needs a SSM II upgrade (I used to own the first version and perhaps best wide angle lens I was owned). Think it would have been better served on 85mm, 135mm or 50mm even but that's just me.– Improved AF speed
– Updated design and weatherproof body
– Image Quality improvement (Reduce ghosting)
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Trevor_S
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I shudder to think of the cost of an updated 16-35. Might see a few older models come onto the market hopefully 
Clayton1985
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+1. The 16-35 is a great lens but expensive and heavy. I'd really prefer to see Sony offer a 17-40 f4 lens priced about 1/2 of the 16-35. UWA zooms are a weak spot for Sony full frame. Tamron does have a 15-30 lens coming out that is supposed to be released in A mount but don't think the price has been published yet.I shudder to think of the cost of an updated 16-35. Might see a few older models come onto the market hopefully
VirtualMirage
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And here I just ordered a Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 last night. Oh well. If the pricing of these two lenses is anything like how they priced the 70-200 G2, it would be out of my price range anyways. Plus, I need the lens for next week and can't wait until next year to order one.
But kudos to Sony for finally releasing some lens updates to the A-mount.
But kudos to Sony for finally releasing some lens updates to the A-mount.
Jozef Macak
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wish they would improve the not-so-great bokeh of the 24-70. Ghosts handling wont cut it for me. Im not afraid of ghosts...soo, skipping 
Pity about the lousy V2 updates from sony: Only adding weather sealing+better AF, while the optical issues stay unaddressed...meh...
meanwhile, the 2 lens which would REALLY need these non-optical upgrades (mainly SSM) stay untouched (CZ84,CZ135)
anyway, at least we see that sony didnt forgot completely about us
Pity about the lousy V2 updates from sony: Only adding weather sealing+better AF, while the optical issues stay unaddressed...meh...
meanwhile, the 2 lens which would REALLY need these non-optical upgrades (mainly SSM) stay untouched (CZ84,CZ135)
anyway, at least we see that sony didnt forgot completely about us
Conspiracy theorists can now argue that these lens announcements are just a smart move to:
1) Prolong the illusion of commitment to A-mount by adding very minor tweaks to existing existing lenses;
2) Reduce used market re-sale value of current work-horse A-mount lenses (70-200/2.8, 24-70/2.8 and 16-35/2.8), thus increasing the price of switching to another brand. Existence of new generation alone will impact the used lens prices, even if new generation is more expensive.
Or perhaps this is real commitment to a product line and reason is improvement to make good products better, like weather sealing, faster AF, better lens element coating. If this is the case, then perhaps 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 are next in queue to get weather sealing and SSM.
Of course AF update might be for better compatibility with E-mount!
Which is it? You decide... Sony is sure good at confusing customers
1) Prolong the illusion of commitment to A-mount by adding very minor tweaks to existing existing lenses;
2) Reduce used market re-sale value of current work-horse A-mount lenses (70-200/2.8, 24-70/2.8 and 16-35/2.8), thus increasing the price of switching to another brand. Existence of new generation alone will impact the used lens prices, even if new generation is more expensive.
Or perhaps this is real commitment to a product line and reason is improvement to make good products better, like weather sealing, faster AF, better lens element coating. If this is the case, then perhaps 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 are next in queue to get weather sealing and SSM.
Of course AF update might be for better compatibility with E-mount!
Which is it? You decide... Sony is sure good at confusing customers
Well. they are weather sealed. So it did take some engineering to update these lenses.Conspiracy theorists can now argue that these lens announcements are just a smart move to:
1) Prolong the illusion of commitment to A-mount by adding very minor tweaks to existing existing lenses;
2) Reduce used market re-sale value of current work-horse A-mount lenses (70-200/2.8, 24-70/2.8 and 16-35/2.8), thus increasing the price of switching to another brand. Existence of new generation alone will impact the used lens prices, even if new generation is more expensive.
Or perhaps this is real commitment to a product line and reason is improvement to make good products better, like weather sealing, faster AF, better lens element coating. If this is the case, then perhaps 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 are next in queue to get weather sealing and SSM.
Of course AF update might be for better compatibility with E-mount!
Which is it? You decide... Sony is sure good at confusing customers
Hopefully we arent going to get the shaft again, like we did with the 70-200mm G2 lenses.
I agree, it is time for CZ85, CZ135 to update to SSM.wish they would improve the not-so-great bokeh of the 24-70. Ghosts handling wont cut it for me. Im not afraid of ghosts...soo, skipping
Pity about the lousy V2 updates from sony: Only adding weather sealing+better AF, while the optical issues stay unaddressed...meh...
meanwhile, the 2 lens which would REALLY need these non-optical upgrades (mainly SSM) stay untouched (CZ84,CZ135)
anyway, at least we see that sony didnt forgot completely about us
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However, Sony is now putting all the resource in developing Full Frame E-mount Lens.
Therefore, the simplest way to launch new A-mount lens without using too many resource is renewing current A-mount lens, keep the original optic design and just renew the lens-coating, add weather seal and update the lens firmware.
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Jozef Macak
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and increase the price by 30 %I agree, it is time for CZ85, CZ135 to update to SSM.wish they would improve the not-so-great bokeh of the 24-70. Ghosts handling wont cut it for me. Im not afraid of ghosts...soo, skipping
Pity about the lousy V2 updates from sony: Only adding weather sealing+better AF, while the optical issues stay unaddressed...meh...
meanwhile, the 2 lens which would REALLY need these non-optical upgrades (mainly SSM) stay untouched (CZ84,CZ135)
anyway, at least we see that sony didnt forgot completely about us
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However, Sony is now putting all the resource in developing Full Frame E-mount Lens.
Therefore, the simplest way to launch new A-mount lens without using too many resource is renewing current A-mount lens, keep the original optic design and just renew the lens-coating, add weather seal and update the lens firmware.
(as with the 70-200)Samsolar
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Proof that the A-Mount is dead
VirtualMirage
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If Sony decided to update the CZ135 with SSM along with a few other minor updates, I would be certainly one of the first to be scouring the couch cushions and car seats every bit of change I could find to order one.I agree, it is time for CZ85, CZ135 to update to SSM.wish they would improve the not-so-great bokeh of the 24-70. Ghosts handling wont cut it for me. Im not afraid of ghosts...soo, skipping
Pity about the lousy V2 updates from sony: Only adding weather sealing+better AF, while the optical issues stay unaddressed...meh...
meanwhile, the 2 lens which would REALLY need these non-optical upgrades (mainly SSM) stay untouched (CZ84,CZ135)
anyway, at least we see that sony didnt forgot completely about us
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However, Sony is now putting all the resource in developing Full Frame E-mount Lens.
Therefore, the simplest way to launch new A-mount lens without using too many resource is renewing current A-mount lens, keep the original optic design and just renew the lens-coating, add weather seal and update the lens firmware.
The CZ135 has long been on my wish list, back when I was shooting with an A700. But every time I come close to wanting to buy one, I keep holding off in hopes of SSM. I then end up buying some other lens...
What Sony also should do is update their macros and have at least one G/Zeiss macro available. Their 100mm macro is starting to look long in the tooth.
But seeing which lenses Sony is updating I think makes it pretty clear that they are focusing the A-mount on the high end market. So far, majority of our lens updates have been G series or Zeiss.
nandbytes
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I am intrigued by this logic, care to elaborate?
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Hugo Martinez
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VirtualMirage
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and increase the price by 30 %
Samsolar
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Sorry yes it is sarcasm I need to remember the Smiley Face. Sony is releasing a-mount lens and they will be getting more of my hard earned money
steelhead3
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Originally the 70/200 was $2400, an increase of 200 over the KM design...it did not sell, so Sony lowered the price to 1800 (probably below cost) and then raised that to 2,000. With the G2, it raised the price to 3,000 to limit market so resources could be put into E mount. I am sure it will go on sale for 2600 (200 over original G1) and that will be its natural price. If you followed this, you are better than this writer! :-D
VirtualMirage
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Yeah, I knew there was some price fluctuations in the early years (remember how the Zeiss 16-80 has gone up in price by over $200?). I was basing the price on what the G1's price was right before the release of the G2. If I recall correctly, it was at around $2000 for a while, excluding any promotions. I remember since I was keeping my eye on it as a potential purchase.
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