Choosing between Canon G7X and Canon G1X Mark II

[damian5000]

Maybe for you. For me Sony ruined the Rx100 series when they reduced the reach to 70mm

And left off a $2 touchpanel on a $1000 compact .... morons. I've got absolutely nothing against Sony. I regularly review and praise their mobile phone sensors... IMX214 IMX298 IMX258... but lack of touchfocus is downright foolhardy.

I've lost count of the # of people who had no idea what they were missing until they gave it a go, and now couldn't imagine being without it.... in 2016, with the "battle" raging between mobiles and compacts? Seriously Sony?

I also find them way overpriced for my needs... no need for EVF, or 4K, or anything beyond 1fps... that's me... I can see some people would have great use for any or all of these...and the price well worth it for them.. but lack of a touch display? I'm curious if my cat, or some equally dense mammal is working in Sony R&D.

 

[Tom Hoots]

For sharpness, just increase the aperture to F4 and more and you are done.

Unfortunately, the second you move into Aperture Priority mode with the G7X, it starts using shutter speeds that result in more image noise. I haven't heard yet whether the G7X II "fixes" that or not.

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[Tom Hoots]

For me Sony ruined the Rx100 series when they reduced the reach to 70mm

For me, that's 100% "wrong." I think Canon ruined the G7X by making the lens longer. In this size/sensor size range, the only way they're making lenses work with the bigger sensors is to compromise the lens optically, then apply software corrections. The longer the lens range, the more compromised the lens has to be, and the bigger the software corrections have to be. The RX100's lens became, in my opinion, MUCH better in the RX100 III than it was in the previous models, and I think the G7X's lens was part of the reason why it wound up producing image quality I just couldn't live with.


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[Alastair Norcross]

For sharpness, just increase the aperture to F4 and more and you are done.

Unfortunately, the second you move into Aperture Priority mode with the G7X, it starts using shutter speeds that result in more image noise. I haven't heard yet whether the G7X II "fixes" that or not.

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You have control over the shutter speed. If you want a slower shutter speed, just set one. You can use manual with auto ISO, for instance. Or, you can set the auto ISO rate of change to slow. If you don't know how to get the shutter speed you want with the aperture and ISO you want, you shouldn't be using this camera. It's true that you can't set the minimum shutter speed with auto ISO as an absolute value, but there are so many ways of getting what you want, that you'd have to be simply an incompetent photographer not to be able to do it, and do it easily and quickly.

 

[Alastair Norcross]

FWIW, I can't imagine the Sony RX100 m4 doesn't purely smoke it.

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[surelythisnameisfree]

For me Sony ruined the Rx100 series when they reduced the reach to 70mm

For me, that's 100% "wrong." I think Canon ruined the G7X by making the lens longer. In this size/sensor size range, the only way they're making lenses work with the bigger sensors is to compromise the lens optically, then apply software corrections. The longer the lens range, the more compromised the lens has to be, and the bigger the software corrections have to be. The RX100's lens became, in my opinion, MUCH better in the RX100 III than it was in the previous models, and I think the G7X's lens was part of the reason why it wound up producing image quality I just couldn't live with.

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Maybe 100% wrong for you but not for me. Of course the Sony lens may have gone up in quality as you'd expect with a narrower focal range. To me though it now stops just before a useful portrait length whereas the Canon pretty much covers the whole portrait range as well as doing wide angle.

 

[larry55279]

For sharpness, just increase the aperture to F4 and more and you are done.

Unfortunately, the second you move into Aperture Priority mode with the G7X, it starts using shutter speeds that result in more image noise. I haven't heard yet whether the G7X II "fixes" that or not.

You can use ISO Auto Settings, Rate of Change to change this.

Set it to Slow, and SS will drop to 1/15s in many cases. This is a bit slow, so you need steady hands, or set High Speed Continuous shutter release, and pick the sharpest shot. On Normal, my SS hits 1/60s a lot, which isn't enough time to collect photons for low noise.

You can also use the exposure dial, and add 1/3rd to 2/3rds stop of EV.