Will the new Zeiss wide angle lens be any good?

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I really hope so. I still dont understand why they produced that weak 24-70.
 
There is absolutely nothing "weak" about the 24-70. Its main problem is the 28-70 is so good that most people can't justify the extra expense on the 24-70. But that's not the 24-70's fault, since it is better than the 28-70 at every aperture.

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If the 16-35 is as good as the "weak" 24-70 I will be very, very happy.
 
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I really hope so. I still dont understand why they produced that weak 24-70.
My SEL2470Z is a great (F4 zoom) lens - I suspect most complainers never used one... ;)

...And bad copies, although seldom, do happen in every brand, unfortunately! :)


Best regards,
Pedro
 
I really hope so. I still dont understand why they produced that weak 24-70.
Aren't you just trolling by expressing your opinion on another lens? The 16-35 hasn't been assessed by any major review sites, including the one you reference. So what's the point of asking at this point other than wanting to say "I'm not buying the 24-70".
 
Photozone only recommend a handful of lenses and are consistently harsh.

If your bag only contains lenses approved by photozone it's probably quite light and very expensive and has very few zooms.
SLRgear wasn't impressed either. And they do recommend lots of lenses.

http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1654/cat/83

It is disingenuous to claim the lens is only panned by a select few, overly critical review sites.
 
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Photozone only recommend a handful of lenses and are consistently harsh.

If your bag only contains lenses approved by photozone it's probably quite light and very expensive and has very few zooms.
SLRgear wasn't impressed either. And they do recommend lots of lenses.

http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1654/cat/83

It is disingenuous to claim the lens is only panned by a select few, overly critical review sites.
Disingenuous eh? The numbers are what they are. Each individual needs to decide whether it's worth the spend or not. I too would like it to be better, cheaper, etc. But it's not a bad lens, just not as good as people were hoping for. -- Blog/Website http://craigspics.net/
 
Especially considering its price, it is worse than any other zoom on any system. You cannot defend that! Particularly embarrassing as its only f/4 and therefore should have been easy to make super!
 
Especially considering its price, it is worse than any other zoom on any system. You cannot defend that! Particularly embarrassing as its only f/4 and therefore should have been easy to make super!
Considering you own a A7S, you could get by with a pretty soft lens and still wouldn't notice. Anything made to perform at a non-embarassing level on an A7R is going to be just fine on the A7S. Look at Leica M lenses and how the severe vignetting problems all dry up on the A7S. If I were you, I'd just get a Tokina and adapt, rather than waste money on a 16-35 that will almost certainly outperform your sensor.
 
Especially considering its price, it is worse than any other zoom on any system. You cannot defend that! Particularly embarrassing as its only f/4 and therefore should have been easy to make super!
One very simple question:

Have you ever used/tried the (SEL2470Z) lens?


Best regards,
Pedro
 
I am used to using the sharpest standard zoom in the world, Canon's 24-70 II so you can understand my reservations with this Sony lens. And I want a good lens since I will likely buy a high MP body to shoot alongside the a7s when an update to the A7R comes out
 
I am used to using the sharpest standard zoom in the world, Canon's 24-70 II so you can understand my reservations with this Sony lens. And I want a good lens since I will likely buy a high MP body to shoot alongside the a7s when an update to the A7R comes out
...You still haven't answered the (simple) question - Have you tried/used the SEL2470Z? :)

Best regards,
Pedro
 
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I really hope so. I still dont understand why they produced that weak 24-70.
The 24-70 isn't weak. For the price, it's an excellent performer and strikes a nice balance between cost and performance.
 
I really hope so. I still dont understand why they produced that weak 24-70.
Aren't you just trolling by expressing your opinion on another lens? The 16-35 hasn't been assessed by any major review sites, including the one you reference. So what's the point of asking at this point other than wanting to say "I'm not buying the 24-70".
I think he's asking for speculation by saying, essentially, "since we know the 24-70 is junk, can we expect Zeiss to do a better job with the 16-35?" He assumes it's well accepted that the 24-70 is barely fit for use.

Speculation is fine if that's your thing, it's done here all the time. But in this case, since so many folks have decided that they love the 24-70, it's the premise that's in question.
 
Especially considering its price, it is worse than any other zoom on any system. You cannot defend that! Particularly embarrassing as its only f/4 and therefore should have been easy to make super!
So it's now clear that you intended to stir up a discussion about the 24-70 and create a contentious thread.
 
I am used to using the sharpest standard zoom in the world, Canon's 24-70 II
And you paid for it. The FE 24-70 is only $1100. What did you expect for that?
so you can understand my reservations with this Sony lens. And I want a good lens since I will likely buy a high MP body to shoot alongside the a7s when an update to the A7R comes out
Did you look at this?


Same general price point, similar performance.
 
its half as sharp! you have to change it to a roughly equivalent sensor in megapix to make it far, otherwise you are comparing a 1dx to the a7r..
 
its half as sharp! you have to change it to a roughly equivalent sensor in megapix to make it far, otherwise you are comparing a 1dx to the a7r..
Let's put it this way:

You are used to a $2000 lens that gives you very sharp pictures on your camera. But nobody knows how it will work on a 36MP camera. You will get almost the same sharpness with the Sony lens (for half the price) on the Sony A7r as you get on the best FF Canon camera of this moment. And then you complain?

You know you can adapt your canon lens to the Sony camera?
 

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