s230 movie question.

[Spikehs]

Hey all,

Just recieved my s230 and i was playing with the movie mode and noticed that is pauses every couple of seconds. I guess this is because the card is too slow (i am just using the 16mb card they included with it). Has anyone using a sandisk compact flash (i will probably get the 192, i can get a sweet deal on it)? Does the sandisk pause like the included 16mb card? what speed will you generally need so it doesn't pause. Thanks. btw its one sweet camera (my first digital)

Thanks

 

[Jimmy Jiang]

Did it pause during recording or reviewing ? I never saw it pause during recording. But I did see the movie pause every couple of seconds when viewing on my PC. But it played fine from the TV. So I think it is my PC. Time to upgrade my PC. : )

Hey all,

Just recieved my s230 and i was playing with the movie mode and
noticed that is pauses every couple of seconds. I guess this is
because the card is too slow (i am just using the 16mb card they
included with it). Has anyone using a sandisk compact flash (i
will probably get the 192, i can get a sweet deal on it)? Does the
sandisk pause like the included 16mb card? what speed will you
generally need so it doesn't pause. Thanks. btw its one sweet
camera (my first digital)

Thanks

 

[Spikehs]

it paused when i viewd it on the comp, but i have pentium 2ghz so it should be fast enough....i'll try it on the TV.

Hey all,

Just recieved my s230 and i was playing with the movie mode and
noticed that is pauses every couple of seconds. I guess this is
because the card is too slow (i am just using the 16mb card they
included with it). Has anyone using a sandisk compact flash (i
will probably get the 192, i can get a sweet deal on it)? Does the
sandisk pause like the included 16mb card? what speed will you
generally need so it doesn't pause. Thanks. btw its one sweet
camera (my first digital)

Thanks

 

[Cindee]

The movie doesn't pause at all when I open it with Quick Time, not the same case when I tried to open it with both Real Player and Media Player tho.

Sorry for being igorant here but does anyone know how I can 'save' the movie clip to my PC ? I tried to open a new folder and put it on my desktop and dragged the movie into it but it didn't work. I have problems viewing my movies w/o keeping my CF card into the card reader. I also notice that while the movie is playing, it's actually reading data from my card reader as the red light goes on.

 

[graph (g3)]

i think canon uses motion jpeg. its saved in jpeg and wav files and when transfered on the supplied driver it combines the 2 to make avi files. so just dload it first before viewing it.

 

[Greg Liverman]

Cindee,

RE:

Sorry for being igorant here but does anyone know how I can 'save'
the movie clip to my PC ? I tried to open a new folder and put it
on my desktop and dragged the movie into it but it didn't work. I
have problems viewing my movies w/o keeping my CF card into the
card reader. I also notice that while the movie is playing, it's
actually reading data from my card reader as the red light goes on.

I have not installed the Canon software, so I have the camera set to PTP mode. Windows XP recognizes the S230 right away when I plug in the USB cable and I use the Windows XP image transfer wizard to move the images (including movies) to my hard drive. The movies show up as a .AVI. I play them using Media Player 8 and see no pauses (my computers are a Compaq Armada M700 laptop with 500 Mhz CPU and 576 Mb RAM and a Compaq Presario 5190 with 500 MHz CPU and 384 Mb RAM).

Greg

--
Canon S230, 128Mb Ridata
Nikon FE (2), buncha Nikor glass, motor winder, Sunpak flash

 

[Jimmy Jiang]

Just tried it on my laptop. It didn't pause. The differences between my laptop and PC are:
PC laptop
CPU: 450MHZ 500MHZ
RAM: 96MB 196MB
OS: Win98 W2K
Player: WM 7 WM7 (WM: Windows Media player)

Looks like a memory issue. Or maybe my PC was running too many applications, a reboot might free up some resources and solve the problem.

Hey all,

Just recieved my s230 and i was playing with the movie mode and
noticed that is pauses every couple of seconds. I guess this is
because the card is too slow (i am just using the 16mb card they
included with it). Has anyone using a sandisk compact flash (i
will probably get the 192, i can get a sweet deal on it)? Does the
sandisk pause like the included 16mb card? what speed will you
generally need so it doesn't pause. Thanks. btw its one sweet
camera (my first digital)

Thanks

 

[Greg Liverman]

RE:

Looks like a memory issue. Or maybe my PC was running too many
applications, a reboot might free up some resources and solve the
problem.

Windows 98 had some problems with memory usage. W2K and WXP and much better operating systems.

Greg
--
Canon S230, 128Mb Ridata
Nikon FE (2), buncha Nikor glass, motor winder, Sunpak flash

 

[Jimmy Jiang]

Not sure if Win98 has memory usage problem. But I do get the blue screen every other day when I try to shutdown the machine after a whole day of use. So maybe it does eats up memory when it has been running for a long time. I agree W2K and XP are much better OS and I was thinking of upgrade. But it is kind of pain to reinstall all those software/applications.

Jimmy

Looks like a memory issue. Or maybe my PC was running too many
applications, a reboot might free up some resources and solve the
problem.

Windows 98 had some problems with memory usage. W2K and WXP and
much better operating systems.

Greg
--
Canon S230, 128Mb Ridata
Nikon FE (2), buncha Nikor glass, motor winder, Sunpak flash

 

[Robert Dowell]

As you suggest it could well be the speed of the Compact Flash card Canon supplies. I would try the different resolutions that the camera can use for movie and see what you get as far as image quality and speed is concerned.

I use a 256Mb Kingston high speed CF card in mine and see no pauses in the image quality. Also be aware that when you try to play the movie from the compact flash card their are usually hits on maximum sustained file transfer that affect how it is played. Try copying the file to the PC or MAC and then see if it plays fine. If you still get a jumpy image then I believe you should try the new card you want to get and see what happens.

I have the waterproof case and use it for scuba videos. The quality is very good and about £500 cheaper than an equivalent camcorder setup. Not bad for a small camera.

Hey all,

Just recieved my s230 and i was playing with the movie mode and
noticed that is pauses every couple of seconds. I guess this is
because the card is too slow (i am just using the 16mb card they
included with it). Has anyone using a sandisk compact flash (i
will probably get the 192, i can get a sweet deal on it)? Does the
sandisk pause like the included 16mb card? what speed will you
generally need so it doesn't pause. Thanks. btw its one sweet
camera (my first digital)

Thanks

--
If it looks good then you must be doing something right !

 

[Cindee]

Greg,

I have not installed the Canon software, so I have the camera set
to PTP mode. Windows XP recognizes the S230 right away when I plug
in the USB cable and I use the Windows XP image transfer wizard to
move the images (including movies) to my hard drive. The movies
show up as a .AVI. I play them using Media Player 8 and see no
pauses

I haven't installed the Canon software, I am using ACD to manage all my image files so far (by the way, is Canon's a better software in post-processing compared to ACD ?) Instead of using the USB cable, I read my images from a card reader. The movies show up as a .AVI file too. But I just don't seem to be able to see my movies whenever I put my CF card back to my V3.

I was hoping to put all the movie clips I made under a folder called "My movie" (it's on my desktop, otherss include "My pictures" and "My music" etc but when I tried to open the file, it says the file doesn't expect ? If I could save my images in the HD, why not the movies ? I am just completely clueless as to what needs to be done. My card is full and I need to reformat it before I go out and start photo shooting again.

Btw, there are no pauses either when I play the movies (I realize Quick Time is better than Windows Media and Real Player)

--
Cindee@HongKong
http://www.pbase.com/cindee

 

[Greg Liverman]

Several questions here...

RE:

I haven't installed the Canon software, I am using ACD to manage
all my image files so far (by the way, is Canon's a better software
in post-processing compared to ACD ?)

I am NOT a post-processing guru by any means! I've diddled with a few scanned images from time to time, but nothing serious. With that open admission of my ignorance , here's what I know and don't.

I am not familiar with "ACD"...not even sure what it stands for. I also have not loaded and never used any of the Canon software - either to manage the images (move them around or catalog them) or to post-process them. So I can't tell you if one is better than another.

RE:

Instead of using the USB
cable, I read my images from a card reader. The movies show up as a
.AVI file too. But I just don't seem to be able to see my movies
whenever I put my CF card back to my V3.

OK, what I understand you are doing is take the card from the V3, put it into the USB reader, use some sort of software (ACD?) to either open or somehow do somethign with the files on the CF card. When you take the card back out of the USB reader and put it back into the V3 you cannot play the movies on the V3 anymore. Right? I assume you were able to play those same movies on the V3 before you took the CF card out of the V3, etc., etc. Right?

If the answers to all my "Right?" questions is "Yes", then what is happening is that the software that is touching the images on the CF card is modifying them on the CF card in such a way as to make them unreadable by the V3. There is a note in the FAQs on the Canon http://www.powershot.com website warning that certain Microsoft-supplied programs (I think it is the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer that is part of explorer.exe on Windows XP) will do this if you rotate an image on a CF card with that software and try to read that same image again on the V3.

I was hoping to put all the movie clips I made under a folder
called "My movie" (it's on my desktop, otherss include "My
pictures" and "My music" etc but when I tried to open the file, it
says the file doesn't expect ? If I could save my images in the HD,
why not the movies ?

What software are you using to do this? ACD? If ACD, I'm sorry, I can't help you since I don't know that software.

What I have done (not with a USB CF card reader since I don't have one) is this. I am running Windows XP Service Pack 1, but this should work for Windows XP w/o Service Pack 1, too. Earlier versions of windows may not work the same since WXP has a lot more awareness of multimedia devices than earlier versions.

I connect the USB cable to the camera and the computer. The camera shows up as a disk drive on the Windows explorer. I click on it and it gives me a list of files. I drag and drop those to a folder on my hard drive (using Windows explorer - no other software running. I have also used the Scanner and Camera Wizard to copy files from the camera to the hard drive. Both of these methods simply transfer the files unaltered to my hard drive. Using a CF card reader should be even easier - just drag and drop to a folder. This method has moved jpg and avi files just fine.

After the transfer, I open the copy of the files on the hard drive (not the CF card) with whatever software I want to use. This way, the copeis of the files on the CF drive remain in the exact format as created by the camera.

I then write-protect (right click, properties, Read only) all those files on the hard drive. If I want to modify them, I copy them to another folder and modify that copy. That way, I also have a master as-it-came-from-the-camera copy of all my images on my hard drive. If I screw up any mods, I can always go and fetch another copy of the image from the first folder.

What other software am I using? The only mods I have made have been simple ones - rotating, cropping, resizing, etc. I have use Microsoft Photo Editor (comes with MS Office, but not standalone) for years to do these simple operations. I like it because I know how to use it - and because I already had Office it was "free"!. I use Thumbs Plus as my image cataloger. It understands EXIF and will not delete EXIF information. Plus it allows me to create a full database of thumbnails and add as much associated information (in addition to the EXIF), like keywords, as I want). It also does a variety of usual and normal post-processing tasks. You can download a demo copy from cerious.com and try it out. It is only $70-$80 for a full license. When I start to get really serious I will probably opt for PhotoShop, but I might start with the much-less-expensive PhotoShop Elements.

But note - I do not use MS Photo Editor, Thumbs Plus or anything else to open the files on the CF card - just use the copy facility built into Windows to get the files off the CF card and onto the hard drive - then mess with 'em.

Hope this helps!

Greg
--
Canon S230, 128Mb Ridata
Oly Stylus 105
Nikon FE (2), buncha Nikor glass, motor winder, Sunpak flash