Olympus SP100ee tested.

[SilenrocKunst]

L. S.

I have the Olympus SP100ee tested, I found it possible to keep the camera steady without a tripod (and I thought that there was also meant to light)

The photos were 100% not good in Photoshop CS3

Furthermore, it was difficult to really raptors in flight well foto'ste make




Lepelaar



regards,

SilenrocKunst

 

[Henry Falkner]

How long did you spend learning the camera?

Birds in flight do require a little practice. Every time I go to the Muriwai Beach gannet colony, I spend the first hour trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. Once I worked that one out, I always get a few keepers -

This in spite of the fact that I don't have an EVF and a red dot sight on my SH-1.

Henry

--
Henry Falkner - SH-1, SH-50, SP-570UZ

Galleries by Henry Falkner

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[Greynerd]

How much has the image you show been cropped? It appears to be square so presumably not out of the camera.

Also any 1 metre equivalent plus zoom image is going to not look is's best at 100%. The long zoom is there to avoid having to crop the small sensor.

L. S.

I have the Olympus SP100ee tested, I found it possible to keep the camera steady without a tripod (and I thought that there was also meant to light)

The photos were 100% not good in Photoshop CS3

Furthermore, it was difficult to really raptors in flight well foto'ste make

 

[snapa]

From what I've seen and read so far, if your in the market for a bridge type camera, there is only one real choice at this time. I just wish they would make one that is about half the size with half the zoom range, for a few bucks less. I guess it's true (most of the time), you get what you pay for ;-)

 

[elliottnewcomb]

How long did you spend learning the camera?

Birds in flight do require a little practice. Every time I go to the Muriwai Beach gannet colony, I spend the first hour trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. Once I worked that one out, I always get a few keepers -

This in spite of the fact that I don't have an EVF and a red dot sight on my SH-1.

Henry

--
Henry Falkner - SH-1, SH-50, SP-570UZ
http://www.pbase.com/hfalkner

Nice one Henry, I would be quite happy with this, (especially from such a small sensor). You are right, unless you learn how to get the best out of any camera, you will not get a lot you like.

I had Stylus 1 for a short time, did ok, enough to learn first hand what it was about, decided to keep it, got the glass tele extender, read the whole manual, made notes, I am doing much better with it, and learning more as each difficult situation that comes up.

I spent 2 years with my Sony rx100, wrote a manual and learning guide, sent it to hundreds of people. For me now, it is absolutely ease of use, consistent results. I recently got the new version of it, rx100m3, surprisingly it was back to basics, learn how to get good results with it. Slightly different sensor, different lens, different processor, and Sony changed things that changed the OOC jpegs, many are finding now.

.................re other comments:

It is amazing how well these small sensors, compact lenses, modern processors, good IS can do.

Who cares what it looks like at 100%, almost all we do is viewed on monitors and tablets these days, they look good at those sizes. Very few print anymore. Anyone planning to view/print larger would use different equipment.

Correct, small sensors don't lend themselves to much cropping, I have learned to plan on just edge crops with my Stylus 1 1/1.7". I always watch my edges and backgrounds anyway, but now I know I won't get alternate detail shots from large crops like larger sensors allow. I might skip a shot that I would take with a larger sensor, but again, I would not be using a small sensor for that kind of work, and, the additional zoom of a larger sensor lets me take the detail shots separately.

More zoom in a smaller body? After Sony achieved their new RX series miniaturization success with synchronous design of lens/sensor, I and many others started wanting an APS-C size sensor with a modern compact fixed lens, like the RX10 and the FZ1000. No way can they give you that amount of zoom, or a small enough lens for a larger sensor in a compact body. It's the 1" sensor size that is allowing things, and you pick the size based on the amount of zoom you want, or, like the Stylus 1, go for whatever sensor size they can give in a compact with more zoom.

I hope Oly or anyone, will deliver a Jacket Pocket size 1" sensor line of camera 'system' soon. I would like 1" 24mm to 120mm, (with 2X to 240mm); with threads for filters; optical tele extender; wider angle and macro lenses)sized like Stylus 1.

I also want a combo mini jack for either external flash and/or external mic, both of which could be mounted on an extension bar fastened to the tripod screw hole. That lets the body stay small and only those wanting more to keep going.

Sony's new pop-up EVF is terrific, we need to see more of that from others, also keeps it smaller.

--
Elliott

 

[Greynerd]

The FZ1000 is currently £749 at present and the SP100EE is £299. The FZ1000 would need to be half the price, not just a few bucks I think. I have a feeling the FZ1000 is beyond the budget of enough people to make it the last choice for the majority.

I doubt it will really dent the bridge market especially as that market is primarily for superzoom and the FZ1000 is not a member of that club. I do wonder how many of the buying public really get excited about 1" sensors and will just look at the modest 16x zoom.

From what I've seen and read so far, if your in the market for a bridge type camera, there is only one real choice at this time. I just wish they would make one that is about half the size with half the zoom range, for a few bucks less. I guess it's true (most of the time), you get what you pay for ;-)

 

[snapa]

The FZ1000 is currently £749 at present and the SP100EE is £299. The FZ1000 would need to be half the price, not just a few bucks I think. I have a feeling the FZ1000 is beyond the budget of enough people to make it the last choice for the majority.

I doubt it will really dent the bridge market especially as that market is primarily for superzoom and the FZ1000 is not a member of that club.

I never said the FZ1000 was in the superzoom club, I said was it was a bridge camera, which it is.

I do wonder how many of the buying public really get excited about 1" sensors and will just look at the modest 16x zoom.

A LOT of people right now are very interested in the new 1" sensor cameras coming out later this year, as well as the ones that have already been released and I am one of them.

I had an old Sony H5 with a 12x zoom and loved it, 7.2MP's, more than enough for that size sensor, great camera! So a 16x zoom, 20MP sensor camera with a 25-400mm is bit more than I want or need. If Panasonic would ever make a 10-12x zoom (25-250/300mm) FZ500 and could make it 20/25% smaller and lighter for 20/25% less money, I would prefer that even more. If it only had 16MP's instead of 20MP's on a 1" sensor for even better low light capability, I would prefer that even more!

Some day, I hope any company would finally figure out what the majority of people really want and make it. If they ever do, I will be there ready to upgrade my excellent ZX-2 which is a great camera for what it is and what it can do. I just need more zoom, slightly better low light capability, slightly sharper images with better video in a camera that will fit comfortably in a smallish belt pouch. If a little weather sealing could be added, that would even be make it even better for my needs! You never know, it could happen this year, if not, next year maybe. If or when it ever does happen, I will be ready, willing and able to upgrade at that time since I only upgrade every 3-4 years or so. I am more patient then most people

 

[HotArt]

Both taken with SP100EE - Pro Photographer for 40 years, owned all kinds of expensive cameras, this camera is not bad for the price, I am happy, I would give it 4 out of 5 stars.

 

[HotArt]

By the way, this moon shot was hand held.


Super Moon taken from Florida 08/11/2014 - SP100EE

 

[Henry Falkner]

Nice one Henry, I would be quite happy with this, (especially from such a small sensor). You are right, unless you learn how to get the best out of any camera, you will not get a lot you like.

This afternoon I collected a laminated 46x33 inch print of this one-

I expected to be irritated by the in-camera sharpening artifacts, but the print is actually quite pleasing to look at, even close up.

I had Stylus 1 for a short time, did ok, enough to learn first hand what it was about, decided to keep it, got the glass tele extender, read the whole manual, made notes, I am doing much better with it, and learning more as each difficult situation that comes up.

Most of the digicams I bought since 1998 are pocket P&S jobs. The exceptions are the SP-550UZ and the SP570UZ, which I still have. I always try to get the utmost out of each.

I spent 2 years with my Sony rx100, wrote a manual and learning guide, sent it to hundreds of people. For me now, it is absolutely ease of use, consistent results. I recently got the new version of it, rx100m3, surprisingly it was back to basics, learn how to get good results with it. Slightly different sensor, different lens, different processor, and Sony changed things that changed the OOC jpegs, many are finding now.

I have not changed brands after I started with Olympus, mostly to make the learning curve more manageable. Also, I am not very fond of triple-nested menus.

Back to the OP - I still find the SP-100EE attractive. In-the-lens-IS appears to work almost as well as 5-axis IS on the sensor. The dot sight should make full frame flying gannets easier to catch, and 1200mm reach with the hi-res 2x in-camera magnification should get me detail in my moon shots that currently elude me.

I do hope that the original poster hangs on to his SP-100EE, and learns how to use it.

Henry

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Henry Falkner - SH-1, SH-50, SP-570UZ

Galleries by Henry Falkner

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[elliottnewcomb]

That is impressive, viewing the original, it looks very 'clean'.

How did you take it, and how PP?

thanks,

 

[Henry Falkner]

That is impressive, viewing the original, it looks very 'clean'.

Thank you.

How did you take it, and how PP?

thanks, Elliott

The caption at the link tells you most of the story. Cropping was from 4608x3456 down to 2800x2100. This does show up the in-camera sharpening.

http://www.pbase.com/hfalkner/image/153544289

Both the SZ-30MR and the SH-50 are a bit BLUE when using WB AUTO. On the SH-50 the work-around is to set WB Custom on a white wall in the shade on a sunny day. The SH-1 extends WB AUTO to get neutral tones in shadows and in rainy weather.

Henry

 

[Greynerd]

I never said you did say that. I was saying the mass market is probably for superzoom rather than bridge whatever that means. I really do wonder how many people will go for such a large, heavy and expensive 16x camera. An enlightened group will of course as it a pretty powerful package but is that enough for a mighty conglomerate like Panasonic which I would have thought needs big turnover? They do obviously recognise the need for big numbers as they have stuffed the TZ40's and 60's with 18mp which degrades IQ but ups the sales.

The FZ1000 is currently £749 at present and the SP100EE is £299. The FZ1000 would need to be half the price, not just a few bucks I think. I have a feeling the FZ1000 is beyond the budget of enough people to make it the last choice for the majority.

I doubt it will really dent the bridge market especially as that market is primarily for superzoom and the FZ1000 is not a member of that club.

I never said the FZ1000 was in the superzoom club, I said was it was a bridge camera, which it is.

 

[canowind]

Thanks! Inspiring to read all your comments about 100ee. Waiting for mine to arrive. Been right out of photography for about 25 years so quite astounded at the
the ability of these bridging cameras for the price! Good to get a reality check on the learning curve I'm up for as well! Inspired to join this forum by the informative and respectful posts (and because of positive comments about MY new camera!)
Mike