Follow- up to saying goodbye to 5d mk III and switch to Nikon

[jglaser757]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.



Jon

 

[Mako2011]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

Did you test by dropping and was Nikon Service really unable to repair?

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

 

[Marx81]

Interesting real life user perspective about " The new kid in town" , coming from 5d3 .

Tnx for sharing .

I don't need the additional pixels , going soon abroad with 5d3 as my main tool.....

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[hotdog321]

Interesting. Thanks for the input. I really don't need 36 megapixels, but it is good to have some first-hand input from someone without an ax to grind. At least Nikon keeps Canon on its toes--and vice versa!

 

[PalmettoFellow]

Interesting. Thanks for the input. I really don't need 36 megapixels, but it is good to have some first-hand input from someone without an ax to grind. At least Nikon keeps Canon on its toes--and vice versa!

I would probably give myself a hernia by laughing if the 5Dmk4 came out with a 37mp sensor with the dual pixel live view af from the 70D.
Luckily, it probably will be closer to 30mp so I won't need to go to the doctor.

 

[riknash]

Sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. It might have been uncomfortable for a few days but I think I would have forced myself to become used to the layout of the Nikon as it probably makes better sense with the way its controls operate for that camera. Were you using the new version of the 16-35mm II lens for your comparison with the Nikon 14-24mm? Hows the mico-contrast and CA? Enjoy the camera and the glass.

 

[jglaser757]

Sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. It might have been uncomfortable for a few days but I think I would have forced myself to become used to the layout of the Nikon as it probably makes better sense with the way its controls operate for that camera. Were you using the new version of the 16-35mm II lens for your comparison with the Nikon 14-24mm? Hows the mico-contrast and CA? Enjoy the camera and the glass.

I was using the version II and I loved that combo..it was almost perfect until I went to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR..thats where I had issues,,,and I did alot of work arounds to solve them..I really think the 14-24 is some much cleaner and feels real comfortable...I never had the old version to compare to, but there really is a big difference..If I had known now,,what I knew them I would have switched glass and used a converter. i have read about a few guys that did this!

 

[jglaser757]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

Did you test by dropping and was Nikon Service really unable to repair?

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

 

[jglaser757]

Interesting. Thanks for the input. I really don't need 36 megapixels, but it is good to have some first-hand input from someone without an ax to grind. At least Nikon keeps Canon on its toes--and vice versa!

Glad you felt that way..and thanks for the complement..I really miss that camera, and canon obviously more intuitive, but I was not going to wait another year..If i was shooting more that just landscape, I would be hard pressed to justify the switch.. I think its also a little slow..Just my feeling about it and thats maybe due to the fact I am still getting used to it. But, compared to the canon.

 

[Malka]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

Hi Jon,

not having had the opportunity to see the D810, are you saying that it's much bigger and heavier than the 5D?

Also, do you know if it does multiple exposures and how many?

Malka

 

[hotdog321]

It's been my (unfortunate) experience to be very pleased with Canon's (polycarbonate?) lenses and bodies. People occasionally denigrate them as "plastic," but after bouncing a few cameras off sidewalks, or down a flight of stairs, this material has made a believer out of me.

 

[brightcolours]

Sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. It might have been uncomfortable for a few days but I think I would have forced myself to become used to the layout of the Nikon as it probably makes better sense with the way its controls operate for that camera. Were you using the new version of the 16-35mm II lens for your comparison with the Nikon 14-24mm? Hows the mico-contrast and CA? Enjoy the camera and the glass.

I was using the version II and I loved that combo..it was almost perfect until I went to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR..thats where I had issues,,,and I did alot of work arounds to solve them..I really think the 14-24 is some much cleaner and feels real comfortable...I never had the old version to compare to, but there really is a big difference..If I had known now,,what I knew them I would have switched glass and used a converter. i have read about a few guys that did this!

It is very easy to use the Nikkoe 14-24mm f2.8 on the Canon, simple ring adapter with aperture control "slide". Of course, you do need to manual focus, and close the aperture via the adapter.

On the other hand, the new Canon EF 16-35mm f4 L IS USM is better than the older 16-35mm f2.8 L USM II you have been using.

Good luck with your new camera combination.

--
Jon

 

[jglaser757]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

Hi Jon,

not having had the opportunity to see the D810, are you saying that it's much bigger and heavier than the 5D?

Also, do you know if it does multiple exposures and how many?

Malka

HI Malka,

Its not necessarily heavier(not sure about the specs) but the grip is better suited to larger hands than mine,I read about others complaining that the camera felt to small around the grip. I actually tried an 800E and preferred the grip.. Of course the contours on the 5d mk III were really comfortable for me because it felt suited to my small hands.. Im lucky that I dont hand hold at all,,always shoot from a tripod..

IT does do multiple exposures,,it has a mirror up position, same premise and canon live view, but now they have the opiton without live view..seems a bit slow to me though..

YOu can take up to 9 bracketed shots and you can vary those shots by 1/3 stops all the way up to 2 stops,,not sure if it does 3 stops...The two second timer with 5 bracketed shots is lacking compared to the Mk III.

I do also prefer the closure of the viewfinder during long exposures...thats much more efficient than using that stupid little rubber cap or your thumb to cover it..There is light leak..the meter will read incorrectly when your eye is removed.For me it was almost two stops difference if I did not cover the viewfinder.

 

[Malka]

Jon,

thank you so very much for taking the time to reply. I much appreciate it. I'll make some time to go and check it out.

All the best.

 

[PalmettoFellow]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

Hi Jon,

not having had the opportunity to see the D810, are you saying that it's much bigger and heavier than the 5D?

Also, do you know if it does multiple exposures and how many?

Malka

HI Malka,

Its not necessarily heavier(not sure about the specs) but the grip is better suited to larger hands than mine,I read about others complaining that the camera felt to small around the grip. I actually tried an 800E and preferred the grip.. Of course the contours on the 5d mk III were really comfortable for me because it felt suited to my small hands.. Im lucky that I dont hand hold at all,,always shoot from a tripod..

IT does do multiple exposures,,it has a mirror up position, same premise and canon live view, but now they have the opiton without live view..seems a bit slow to me though..

YOu can take up to 9 bracketed shots and you can vary those shots by 1/3 stops all the way up to 2 stops,,not sure if it does 3 stops...The two second timer with 5 bracketed shots is lacking compared to the Mk III.

I do also prefer the closure of the viewfinder during long exposures...thats much more efficient than using that stupid little rubber cap or your thumb to cover it..There is light leak..the meter will read incorrectly when your eye is removed.For me it was almost two stops difference if I did not cover the viewfinder.

 

[Avobanana]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

Congrats! Btw, did you know Canon is going to use the Sony 36mp sensor for 5D4?

Just kidding. Enjoy!

 

[jglaser757]

Sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. It might have been uncomfortable for a few days but I think I would have forced myself to become used to the layout of the Nikon as it probably makes better sense with the way its controls operate for that camera. Were you using the new version of the 16-35mm II lens for your comparison with the Nikon 14-24mm? Hows the mico-contrast and CA? Enjoy the camera and the glass.

I was using the version II and I loved that combo..it was almost perfect until I went to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR..thats where I had issues,,,and I did alot of work arounds to solve them..I really think the 14-24 is some much cleaner and feels real comfortable...I never had the old version to compare to, but there really is a big difference..If I had known now,,what I knew them I would have switched glass and used a converter. i have read about a few guys that did this!

It is very easy to use the Nikkoe 14-24mm f2.8 on the Canon, simple ring adapter with aperture control "slide". Of course, you do need to manual focus, and close the aperture via the adapter.

On the other hand, the new Canon EF 16-35mm f4 L IS USM is better than the older 16-35mm f2.8 L USM II you have been using.

Good luck with your new camera combination.

 

[jglaser757]

It's been about three weeks since I made the switch to Nikon. And I have made some interesting observations, good and bad about my switch.

First off , I do miss the ergonomics of the 5d and the way it is layed out. I prefer the way the canon defaults are set up to the Nikon ( wheel direction and the way everything reads out in the displays and viewfinder . So much so. That I switched everything around to work the same exact way. I prefer the feel of the canon in my hand also. The 810 is huge in my hands and the grip is perfect for those with large hands. And I miss the 2-second delay on the canon. The AF is equal in both, but I think the build quality is better in the canon. From reports I have read, the canon is more forgiving if you drop it. Which I did before. Dropping the Nikon causes irreparable damage to it.

But,,, those differences were very minor for me. I switched from the 5d mk III to the 810 because of the resolution and 36 mp. I love the file size and can see the difference when going to 1:1 or 1:2 in LR. I also loved shooting at native ISO 64. It was very helpful for longer exposures. And, the glass on the 14-24 is sharper in the corners than the 16-35.

Jon

Congrats! Btw, did you know Canon is going to use the Sony 36mp sensor for 5D4?

Just kidding. Enjoy!

I am sure they will come out with a super sensor, but I was not willing to wait 6 more months and three more workshops!

 

[qianp2k]

I hope you're better off with your switch. But you could miss some Canon lenses such as 17mm TS-E. Not wide as 14-24G but it can avoid much converging lines. After fixing vertical perspective (that I usually do) in architecture photos, your 14mm is more like 16mm wide. 17mm TS-E is sharper than 14-24G at edges. But if you have no interest in TS-E lenses (Nikon calls PC-E lenses), then this is not an issue. The new Canon 16-35/4.0 IS seem very good and rumored Canon 14-24L/2.8, or on the new rumor 11-24L/2.8 might be announced by next year. Canon 24-70L/2.8 II is better than Nikon counterpart which is an excellent walk-around lens.

Personally I picked up A7R not replace but complement to 5D3 that still can use EF lenses, so don't have to build up another set of lenses. It's also very small/light to carry with especially with two excellent small/light FE prime lenses.

Good luck.

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[jglaser757]

I hope you're better off with your switch. But you could miss some Canon lenses such as 17mm TS-E. Not wide as 14-24G but it can avoid much converging lines. After fixing vertical perspective (that I usually do) in architecture photos, your 14mm is more like 16mm wide. 17mm TS-E is sharper than 14-24G at edges. But if you have no interest in TS-E lenses (Nikon calls PC-E lenses), then this is not an issue. The new Canon 16-35/4.0 IS seem very good and rumored Canon 14-24L/2.8, or on the new rumor 11-24L/2.8 might be announced by next year. Canon 24-70L/2.8 II is better than Nikon counterpart which is an excellent walk-around lens.

Personally I picked up A7R not replace but complement to 5D3 that still can use EF lenses, so don't have to build up another set of lenses. It's also very small/light to carry with especially with two excellent small/light FE prime lenses.

Good luck.