X-E2 + 23mm vs. X100S

[Steve W]

So I know the X-E2 is more flexible since it takes interchangeable lenses and the XF 23mm is a full stop faster than the X100S. Once you put those aside as pluses for the X-E2 +23mm what do owners of the X100S like that has driven them to choose that camera/lens combo? I currently own the X-E2 and now the X-T1 and quite a few lenses. When I go small I end up using the X-E2 with the XF 27/2.8 because of its size but am thiinking I might like the X100s it 23mm/2.0 better.

Also I'm probably one of the rare X-T1 owners that prefer the X-E2 form factor and setup better than the X-T1. For that reason I've actually considered trading it out for the X100S to use with my X-E2 or maybe just another X-E2. I'm not worried about the fixed focal length since my 23mm is always on one of my two cameras and the other is adapted to the specific situation.

So X100S tell me what you love about this Fuji-X camera over the other cameras in the X family.

p.s. I've also owned the X-Pro1 and X-E1.

 

[Jonavin]

Primary reason I still keep my X100S after getting the X-T1 instead of getting the 23mm is because of these (in order or importance):

1. size, compact package

2. leaf shutter, quiet

3. flash sync up to 1/1000

4. built-in ND filter

 

[Steve W]

Primary reason I still keep my X100S after getting the X-T1 instead of getting the 23mm is because of these (in order or importance):

1. size, compact package

2. leaf shutter, quiet

3. flash sync up to 1/1000

4. built-in ND filter

thanks, i didn't even realize features 3 and 4 where part of the X100s capability and i always forget about 2.

 

[Angry Bird]

Primary reason I still keep my X100S after getting the X-T1 instead of getting the 23mm is because of these (in order or importance):

1. size, compact package

2. leaf shutter, quiet

3. flash sync up to 1/1000

4. built-in ND filter

thanks, i didn't even realize features 3 and 4 where part of the X100s capability and i always forget about 2.

Don't have X-E2, but have an E1.

About the size, 100S and X-E1 (+23mm) are almost the same size. What I like 100S are its combined OVF and EVF, and leaf shutter.

 

[nawknai]

Primary reason I still keep my X100S after getting the X-T1 instead of getting the 23mm is because of these (in order or importance):

1. size, compact package

2. leaf shutter, quiet

3. flash sync up to 1/1000

4. built-in ND filter

thanks, i didn't even realize features 3 and 4 where part of the X100s capability and i always forget about 2.

Don't have X-E2, but have an E1.

About the size, 100S and X-E1 (+23mm) are almost the same size. What I like 100S are its combined OVF and EVF, and leaf shutter.

The X100s is MUCH smaller than the X-E1 or X-E2 with 23 mm. The 23mm lens itself makes X-E1 + lens combo quite big. In fact, I'd say it's always the lens that makes the camera feel bigger.

Were you only comparing the size of the camera bodies??!?

 

[Bx100]

maybe some good read will help ;-)

Fuji X100(S/T) vs. XF 23mm F1.4 — Fuji vs. Fuji

A comparison between Fuji’s X100S or X100T with its 23mm f/2 lens and their FUJINON XF 23mm f/1.4 R including handling, sharpness, and bokeh.

www.fujivsfuji.com

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[MarcosV]

maybe some good read will help ;-)

http://www.fujivsfuji.com/x100s-vs-23mm-14/

Do read that Fuji vs. Fuji article. It nails why the 23/1.4 is optically a better lens than the X100s.

For me, the X100s is the small, standalone camera to bring when you want to artistically leave the FF kit with zooms at home and limit yourself to just a 35mm FF equivalent FOV with nice retro styling and controls to train your creative side while getting compliments on how cool you camera looks.

Because the X100s' 23/2 lens is a pancake, it fits really nicely in really small camera bags such as the Blackrapid SnapR 35.

As the Fuji vs Fuji article points out, the X100s' 23/2 can focus a lot closer than the 23/1.4. Its lens was designed to give a nice portrait local shot at f/2 to f/2.8 (at the expense of lower corner sharpness), but, does well for macros in the f/4 to f/5.6 range.

Combine the hybrid viewfinder with built-in ND filter, the camera rocks in very bright sunlight.

I've decided to delay buying a 23/1.4 in favor of keeping my X100s in my camera bag and focus on buying other lens.

But, if you are embracing the Fuji-X lens system, the 23/1.4 makes more sense for most people than the X100s, especially if you are starting with just one body.

 

[powerless]

If you are sure the 23mm will be the only focal length that you will ever use. Go with the X100s.

Otherwise having a 27mm lens would be handy.

 

[heinerpattaya]

Another option could be the 18/2.
Can be bought damm cheap (I paid 185 $ used in Thailand from the best camera shop in Bangkok).

My body is the XE 1, much improved after the latest firmware.

This combination should be very close to the dimensions of the X 100 s)



BR

heiner

 

[Steve W]

So I am fully invested in the Fuji System with my current X-T1 and X-E2. Started with the X-Pro1 and then moved to the X-E1. I really wanted the optical viewfinder to work for me but the fact that I could tell what was actually in focus with the 35mm/1.4 I ended up using the EVF more and more so when the X-E1 came out I jumped to it for the better viewfinder and smaller size. I've moved on from both of these since then.

Since I had forgotten about the X100s having a Leaf shutter, build in ND and faster flash sync these must not have been a priority to me. They are all great features but not critical I guess for me.

I do have the 27mm along with the 23mm so I can go smaller if I need to. I just really like the idea of a smaller 23mm at f/2. I have this lens in M mount (Zeiss ZM 35mm f/2) for my Zeiss Ikon and its nice and small. FF 35mm is my favorite walk around focal length. I had the 18mm f/2 as well and gave it up when I got the 23mm so save a little money. I guess if you had the 18 and 27 walking around that would be a very light kit as well.

Just see so many X100s lovers I really wanted to know what attracted you to it when Fuji also offered excellent ILCs as well.

 

[headofdestiny]

As was already mentioned, the main reasons for the X100s are size, the OVF, the silent leaf shutter, and the ND filter. You can also add the TCL and WCL to make a nice 28, 35 50 (equiv.) setup.

I own two X100s and the teleconverters, and they're my only digital cameras. I'm not even really all that interested in the other X series cameras.

 

[Angry Bird]

Primary reason I still keep my X100S after getting the X-T1 instead of getting the 23mm is because of these (in order or importance):

1. size, compact package

2. leaf shutter, quiet

3. flash sync up to 1/1000

4. built-in ND filter

thanks, i didn't even realize features 3 and 4 where part of the X100s capability and i always forget about 2.

Don't have X-E2, but have an E1.

About the size, 100S and X-E1 (+23mm) are almost the same size. What I like 100S are its combined OVF and EVF, and leaf shutter.

The X100s is MUCH smaller than the X-E1 or X-E2 with 23 mm. The 23mm lens itself makes X-E1 + lens combo quite big. In fact, I'd say it's always the lens that makes the camera feel bigger.

Were you only comparing the size of the camera bodies??!?

You are right. When I compare, I have the lens hood on the 100S.

 

[Halwick]

As was already mentioned, the main reasons for the X100s are size, the OVF, the silent leaf shutter, and the ND filter. You can also add the TCL and WCL to make a nice 28, 35 50 (equiv.) setup.

I own two X100s and the teleconverters, and they're my only digital cameras. I'm not even really all that interested in the other X series cameras.

Although I've used a 35mm (FF) focal length as a general purpose all around lens, I found (to my eyes), 28mm and 50mm are not significantly different to the 35mm in terms of field of view coverage. On the other hand I found 24mm and 85mm to be significant different compared to 35mm that I found more useful.

Wish the WCL was 24mm and TCL was 85mm. But then the teleconverter would be much larger and and diamter and length (when mounted) probably not much different to compared to the equivalent Fujiflim R lens.

Oh well. Can't have everything, I guess.

 

[headofdestiny]

As was already mentioned, the main reasons for the X100s are size, the OVF, the silent leaf shutter, and the ND filter. You can also add the TCL and WCL to make a nice 28, 35 50 (equiv.) setup.

I own two X100s and the teleconverters, and they're my only digital cameras. I'm not even really all that interested in the other X series cameras.

Although I've used a 35mm (FF) focal length as a general purpose all around lens, I found (to my eyes), 28mm and 50mm are not significantly different to the 35mm in terms of field of view coverage. On the other hand I found 24mm and 85mm to be significant different compared to 35mm that I found more useful.

Wish the WCL was 24mm and TCL was 85mm. But then the teleconverter would be much larger and and diamter and length (when mounted) probably not much different to compared to the equivalent Fujiflim R lens.

Oh well. Can't have everything, I guess.

28, 35 and 50 is a classic street photo trio. Unless I was shooting headshots for actors or something, there really isn't anything I'd be interesting in shooting outside of that trio, although, to be honest, 35mm covers just about everything for me.

For example, Constantine Manos uses the 28/35/50 trio. He shoots 35mm most of the time, but if he can't get close or far away enough from the scene that he is after, because an obstacle is in the way, he'll switch to 28 or 50.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Decide which is more appealing.

 

[Halwick]

Decide which is more appealing.

I knew the 23mm XR lens sporting a 62mm filter size is big but didn't realize how just how big on the XE-2 body.

Okay, how about a comparison of the X100S with the WCL and TCL converters attached compared to the XE-2 with 18mm and 35mm respectively?

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Decide which is more appealing.

I knew the 23mm XR lens sporting a 62mm filter size is big but didn't realize how just how big on the XE-2 body.

Okay, how about a comparison of the X100S with the WCL and TCL converters attached compared to the XE-2 with 18mm and 35mm respectively?

As soon as you factor in the converters the X100S lopes its portability edge and since you're carrying two extra things around its just as inconvenient as an XE2 and two lenses. Only the XE2 & 27mm lens is the same size as the X100S.

If I were to guess, I'd say that the X100S w either of the converters is similar in size to the XE2 w/ 35mm lens, and since the 18mm is smaller than the 35, the X100S w/WCL is larger than that combo.

 

[BPD7]

So I am fully invested in the Fuji System with my current X-T1 and X-E2. Started with the X-Pro1 and then moved to the X-E1. I really wanted the optical viewfinder to work for me but the fact that I could tell what was actually in focus with the 35mm/1.4 I ended up using the EVF more and more so when the X-E1 came out I jumped to it for the better viewfinder and smaller size. I've moved on from both of these since then.

Since I had forgotten about the X100s having a Leaf shutter, build in ND and faster flash sync these must not have been a priority to me. They are all great features but not critical I guess for me.

I do have the 27mm along with the 23mm so I can go smaller if I need to. I just really like the idea of a smaller 23mm at f/2. I have this lens in M mount (Zeiss ZM 35mm f/2) for my Zeiss Ikon and its nice and small. FF 35mm is my favorite walk around focal length. I had the 18mm f/2 as well and gave it up when I got the 23mm so save a little money. I guess if you had the 18 and 27 walking around that would be a very light kit as well.

Just see so many X100s lovers I really wanted to know what attracted you to it when Fuji also offered excellent ILCs as well.

The x100s is the PERFECT travel camera. Reason are all listed in previous posts here.

I have a 5Dm2, before that 5D, and I just hated traveling with it and walking the streets locally with it. It's too big and bulky. The x100s solved that issue. I tried some point and shoots and even my phone - they all didn't measure up.

 

[headofdestiny]

As soon as you factor in the converters the X100S lopes its portability edge and since you're carrying two extra things around its just as inconvenient as an XE2 and two lenses. Only the XE2 & 27mm lens is the same size as the X100S.

If I were to guess, I'd say that the X100S w either of the converters is similar in size to the XE2 w/ 35mm lens, and since the 18mm is smaller than the 35, the X100S w/WCL is larger than that combo.

The length of the WCL and TCL on-camera is about the same as the 35/1.4. The WCL is considerably narrower than the 35/1.4, and the TCL is slightly wider at the front, but considerably narrower than the 35/1.4 at the middle and end. Of course, 20mm of the length of the converters is the X100's lens that is always attached to the camera, so, when carrying the converters, they're both nearly 20mm shorter and a little more pocketable than the 35/1.4.

The X100 + converters is still smaller than an equivalent XE2 setup, but I'd agree that the difference probably isn't worth noting, depending on which lenses we're talking about on the XE2. Of course, if we're talking only shooting a single 35mm (equiv) focal length, the X100 is considerably smaller than an XE2 + 23/1.4.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

The length of the WCL and TCL on-camera is about the same as the 35/1.4. The WCL is considerably narrower than the 35/1.4, and the TCL is slightly wider at the front, but considerably narrower than the 35/1.4 at the middle and end. Of course, 20mm of the length of the converters is the X100's lens that is always attached to the camera, so, when carrying the converters, they're both nearly 20mm shorter and a little more pocketable than the 35/1.4.

The X100S has the portability advantage only when you don't have an adapter screwed on the lens.

I always had a metal lens hood on my X100 because I liked the way it made the camera handle. I now have an XE1 with the 35mm lens and it feels like it is the same size. The fact that a converter is a little shorter than the XF35, or that the middle of the lens is narrower does nothing to increase its portability. It no longer fits easily in a pocket and it requires a similar sized space in a bag.