What filters to get for G3

[chainik4ever]

What filters would you recommend to use with G3?

What would you recommend as an everyday filter to protect lenses?

I'm considering Skylight, UV/Haze, Polarizing and Clear filter.

 

[chainik4ever]

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What filters would you recommend to use with G3?

What would you recommend as an everyday filter to protect lenses?

I'm considering Skylight, UV/Haze, Polarizing and Clear filter.

 

[Garrett Adams]

I seldom will use a "protective" filter. I have 4 58mm B+W haze filters so I'll carry one with me for use when around wet conditions (surf or heavy fog, etc.)

OTOH, a polarizer is indispensable for eliminating, or toning down, reflections as well as adding extra punch to a blue sky. Use the latter judiciously. I don't have a G3 yet but in looking at photographs taken with G series cameras I'd say Canon handles the sky really well unassisted.

 

[hai]

none. except for a polariser, circular.

the lens adapter blocks the flash and af assist.

also if you use the 420, the zoom distance will not corelate with the zoom dist.

http://www.the-inncrowd.com

 

[chainik4ever]

none. except for a polariser, circular.

the lens adapter blocks the flash and af assist.

also if you use the 420, the zoom distance will not corelate with
the zoom dist.

I cann't agree with you. I have already a lens adapter - it does blocks a viewfinder 50%, but who uses it anyway. It blocks partially an AF assist but its functionality doesn't decrese, I tested it in all light conditions - if the camera couldn't focus with an adapter it also couldn't focus without it. So lens adapter is not a problem. 420EX flash? You kidding me right? It works great with G3, no problems at all.

So question still remains: do we need a UV/Haze filter as an all time protection for the lens? Or it should be clear filter?
If you have any experience please share.

 

[NNS]

On all my camera gear, I always buy a good clear uv filter. The main reason is on my DSLR lenses, I want something that is protecting the lens itself. On my G2, I have the Canon Adaptor and a clear UV filter as well. Seems to work fine without any noticable problems.

Enjoy the G3. I have the G2 and frankly sometimes prefer its pictures to my DSLR.

none. except for a polariser, circular.

the lens adapter blocks the flash and af assist.

also if you use the 420, the zoom distance will not corelate with
the zoom dist.

I cann't agree with you. I have already a lens adapter - it does
blocks a viewfinder 50%, but who uses it anyway. It blocks
partially an AF assist but its functionality doesn't decrese, I
tested it in all light conditions - if the camera couldn't focus
with an adapter it also couldn't focus without it. So lens adapter
is not a problem. 420EX flash? You kidding me right? It works great
with G3, no problems at all.
So question still remains: do we need a UV/Haze filter as an all
time protection for the lens? Or it should be clear filter?
If you have any experience please share.

 

[Peter N]

I owe the Canon 58mm adapter, Tiffen 58mm UV Haze 1 filter, Tiffen 58mm Circular Polarizer. I just play with it lately with my outsides shots, what a difference they make! Yes, the G3 is very good at outsides shots with skys without any filters on, like my pictures on my website, they were taken without any filters attached. Look at the skys in those pictures, ignore the some artifacts or noise, because I was a true newbie few weeks ago. I am still a newbie, but have improved quite a bit

Anyway, Tiffen lens are reasonable but produce very good results. At least you should get UV filter, along with CP filter. You should always use them for outsides shots. The WA are Tele converters are nice to have's since you can get similar effects via stiching (to produce WA picture) and optical zoom+digital zoom (if you go over the composite 6-7 zoom).

There is much conversation on G3 lens at this point, since Lensmate and Tiffen have not come out with their adapters yet. But, the links below have some more info on the lens.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3843425
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3838306

As for the blocking, I decided to keep my 58mm size, because:

• it would minimize vignetting issues when 2 or more filters are stacked. My understanding is the smaller the size of the adapter, the more chance you could get with vignetting issue. 52mm is the minimum size to avoid vignetting, according to Lensmate.
• yes, it blocks the AF assist beam, but my tests indicated that the AF performance is not impacted at all, since there is still some AF assist beam riding over the adapter. Plus, as you said, who really uses the OVF much nowadays anyway. I use LCD all the time, that's why the LCD is invented in the first place, isn't it?
• yes, it blocks the built-in flash (see http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3807085 ), but I decided to shoot my indoors (plus outdoors) using my Canon 420EX. The combination makes a great difference!

If you don't need the filters in a hurry, you should wait and see what Lensmate or Tiffen comes out with on their adapters, filters, and converter lens. The 52mm sizes could be better choice than the 58mm size, but I don't think it will totally get away with the blockage issues.

Hope that helps somewhat.

What filters would you recommend to use with G3?

What would you recommend as an everyday filter to protect lenses?

I'm considering Skylight, UV/Haze, Polarizing and Clear filter.

--
Peter

G3 - it's amazing!
http://myg3shots.dynu.com/gallery/

 

[TN Hiker]

Yesterday I had some hands-on sessions with a Canon G3 and was disappointed with the macro capability. Much of my shooting involves small subjects at close range so I'm looking for the ability to really fill as much of the image area as possible with a small size subject.

Apparently the G2 has the same limitations as the G3 with regard to macro performance.

I'd appreciate any comments from G2/G3 users who have found a way to significantly improve the macro performance, i.e. using an add-on macro lens, shooting high resolution then cropping, etc. Include your experience with any problems created by add-on lenses such as obstruction of the flash and/or low light illuminator by the lens body.

--
Al
http://www.pbase.com/tnhiker/smokies_hikes

Anyway, Tiffen lens are reasonable but produce very good results.
At least you should get UV filter, along with CP filter. You
should always use them for outsides shots. The WA are Tele
converters are nice to have's since you can get similar effects via
stiching (to produce WA picture) and optical zoom+digital zoom (if
you go over the composite 6-7 zoom).

There is much conversation on G3 lens at this point, since Lensmate
and Tiffen have not come out with their adapters yet. But, the
links below have some more info on the lens.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3843425
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3838306

As for the blocking, I decided to keep my 58mm size, because:

• it would minimize vignetting issues when 2 or more filters are

stacked. My understanding is the smaller the size of the adapter,
the more chance you could get with vignetting issue. 52mm is the
minimum size to avoid vignetting, according to Lensmate.

• yes, it blocks the AF assist beam, but my tests indicated that

the AF performance is not impacted at all, since there is still
some AF assist beam riding over the adapter. Plus, as you said,
who really uses the OVF much nowadays anyway. I use LCD all the
time, that's why the LCD is invented in the first place, isn't it?

• yes, it blocks the built-in flash (see

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3807085 ), but I decided to shoot my indoors (plus outdoors) using my Canon 420EX. The combination makes a great difference!

If you don't need the filters in a hurry, you should wait and see
what Lensmate or Tiffen comes out with on their adapters, filters,
and converter lens. The 52mm sizes could be better choice than
the 58mm size, but I don't think it will totally get away with the
blockage issues.

Hope that helps somewhat.

What filters would you recommend to use with G3?

What would you recommend as an everyday filter to protect lenses?

I'm considering Skylight, UV/Haze, Polarizing and Clear filter.

--
Peter

G3 - it's amazing!
http://myg3shots.dynu.com/gallery/

--
Al
http://www.pbase.com/tnhiker/smokies_hikes

 

[hai]

I cann't agree with you. I have already a lens adapter - it does
blocks a viewfinder 50%, but who uses it anyway. It blocks
partially an AF assist but its functionality doesn't decrese, I
tested it in all light conditions - if the camera couldn't focus
with an adapter it also couldn't focus without it. So lens adapter
is not a problem. 420EX flash? You kidding me right? It works great
with G3, no problems at all.
So question still remains: do we need a UV/Haze filter as an all
time protection for the lens? Or it should be clear filter?
If you have any experience please share.

if everyone agrees, there'd be no forums, not much of one anyways. : )

i have both, the 52/58mm adapters on my g2/g2 black, and the 58 on the g3.

i agree, the viewfinder is not in use most of the time, except when the lcd's off when i'm trying to get high speed continous shots. my problem's with the wide angle lens. the dia's too big and it blocks it out, so, if i require a fill in, i wouldn't be able to use the on board flash, thus, requiring the the 420/550. so now, i've got added bulk/weight.

the automatic zoom on these flashes covers a range of '24-105mm'. it follows the zoom on the camera if it's not bounced. when i'm using a x0.4/x0.6 wide, the outer edges on the left and right will not be in the flash zone. try it.

And when you add on the x1.4, the guide nos will not be 'as is' for a coupla considerations, the camera will not know that the zoom length has increased, esp when it's limited to 105mm on board. the f-stop is also increased. ttl is not all it's hacked out to be.

whatever the case may be, i am a canon fan. almost all my digital cameras are canon, with the exception of someother gimmicky ones. i feel that being able to recognise the short comings helps you to overcome them.

and this, is just my personal opinion. : )

http://www.the-inncrowd.com

 

[Peter N]

Hai:

I currently have 58mm Canon adapter, UV filter, and CP. I was thinking hard about returning all of these 58mm accessories b/c the blockage issues with AF assist beam and OVF, and to get a smaller 52mm adapter. But, then I didn't because I didn't want to pay for returning fee, decided to use 420EX, and thought the 58mm could create less a chance of vignetting issues when 2 or more filters are stacked.

From your experience, how is 52mm compared to 58mm, from the perspective of interaction with converter lens and close-up lens? Does one perform better in solving issues like vignetting, etc?

Thanks,

I cann't agree with you. I have already a lens adapter - it does
blocks a viewfinder 50%, but who uses it anyway. It blocks
partially an AF assist but its functionality doesn't decrese, I
tested it in all light conditions - if the camera couldn't focus
with an adapter it also couldn't focus without it. So lens adapter
is not a problem. 420EX flash? You kidding me right? It works great
with G3, no problems at all.
So question still remains: do we need a UV/Haze filter as an all
time protection for the lens? Or it should be clear filter?
If you have any experience please share.

if everyone agrees, there'd be no forums, not much of one anyways. : )

i have both, the 52/58mm adapters on my g2/g2 black, and the 58 on
the g3.

i agree, the viewfinder is not in use most of the time, except when
the lcd's off when i'm trying to get high speed continous shots. my
problem's with the wide angle lens. the dia's too big and it blocks
it out, so, if i require a fill in, i wouldn't be able to use the
on board flash, thus, requiring the the 420/550. so now, i've got
added bulk/weight.

the automatic zoom on these flashes covers a range of '24-105mm'.
it follows the zoom on the camera if it's not bounced. when i'm
using a x0.4/x0.6 wide, the outer edges on the left and right will
not be in the flash zone. try it.

And when you add on the x1.4, the guide nos will not be 'as is' for
a coupla considerations, the camera will not know that the zoom
length has increased, esp when it's limited to 105mm on board. the
f-stop is also increased. ttl is not all it's hacked out to be.

whatever the case may be, i am a canon fan. almost all my digital
cameras are canon, with the exception of someother gimmicky ones. i
feel that being able to recognise the short comings helps you to
overcome them.

and this, is just my personal opinion. : )

http://www.the-inncrowd.com

--
Peter

G3 - it's amazing!
http://myg3shots.dynu.com/gallery/