Why would someone buy the Nex7 replacement?

[NeilJones]

Everyone will compare its image quality to the a7 and it won't be as good.

Just wondering why sony would bother upgrading the Nex7?

Price alone seems silly?

Is it just me that thinks this?

 

[Dunnlang]

I would assume it would be closer to an NEX-5 or NEX-6. Something just under $1,000 for the body. That is a market not quite covered by the A7/r.

Also consider that the FE lenses are substantially more expensive than the E lenses. The total cost of ownership is still much lower in the sub-A7/r category.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Everyone will compare its image quality to the a7 and it won't be as good.

Just wondering why sony would bother upgrading the Nex7?

Price alone seems silly?

Is it just me that thinks this?

 

[hyenadog]

Sony's New Mgmt has a choice it probably has something in the pipeline ready to release but would not have developed it if it could turn the clock back. In several markets (particularly US) at not even high prices it needs 2 look like a dslr to sell hence the A3000 (nex in a dslr skin)

You can see where sony is going at the top end FF/Zeiss price ..it will be interesting to see if its going to abandon dslr and mirrorless (both have failed commercially).

The vast majority of NEX's sold are 3/5 and the vast amount of Sony lenses sold are the kit tele zoom, the 50mmSEL and the 16mmSEL .. the fact that sigma has sold a lot of the 30mmf2.8 is an important factor as well as is the fact so few zeiss lenses (and highly priced Sony lenses) were sold.

Take all this together and if mirrorless continues logically Sony should probably do a 5T more towards a 3 price just in black and just have a "right price set of black lenses" 16mm , 50mm OIS/AF , 35mm OIS/AF (priced as 50SEL) and hopefully a 85mmf2 OIS/AF, as well as the kit tele zoom

It would be nice if they could stretch to something like a right price 100mmf3ish OIS/AF or 100-150mm f4 OIS/AF zoom but perhaps commercially these would not be as big sellers as the core primes/kit zoom

and for the 6/7 .. maybe you could argue a case for a 6 if it could sell a lot more than it does but the 7 .. really why would you buy a 7 when you could get a FF ?

 

[kennethp]

Sony's New Mgmt has a choice it probably has something in the pipeline ready to release but would not have developed it if it could turn the clock back. In several markets (particularly US) at not even high prices it needs 2 look like a dslr to sell hence the A3000 (nex in a dslr skin)

You can see where sony is going at the top end FF/Zeiss price ..it will be interesting to see if its going to abandon dslr and mirrorless (both have failed commercially).

The vast majority of NEX's sold are 3/5 and the vast amount of Sony lenses sold are the kit tele zoom, the 50mmSEL and the 16mmSEL .. the fact that sigma has sold a lot of the 30mmf2.8 is an important factor as well as is the fact so few zeiss lenses (and highly priced Sony lenses) were sold.

Take all this together and if mirrorless continues logically Sony should probably do a 5T more towards a 3 price just in black and just have a "right price set of black lenses" 16mm , 50mm OIS/AF , 35mm OIS/AF (priced as 50SEL) and hopefully a 85mmf2 OIS/AF, as well as the kit tele zoom

It would be nice if they could stretch to something like a right price 100mmf3ish OIS/AF or 100-150mm f4 OIS/AF zoom but perhaps commercially these would not be as big sellers as the core primes/kit zoom

and for the 6/7 .. maybe you could argue a case for a 6 if it could sell a lot more than it does but the 7 .. really why would you buy a 7 when you could get a FF ?

I bought a Nex7 for its size for travel and landscape work.

I have a D7000 with a bag full of ff compatible 2.8 lenses.

I don't want or need a full frame. If I did I would lean to the Nikon D610 as I have the FF lenses already.

I would buy a Nex7 replacement if it was still the same size and apc.

I'll bet I'm not alone.

Ken

 

[Doc Argonian]

I would like a new nex-style new camera to replace the 5, 6 and 7 altogether, combining their best features in one body: three wheels and 24mp, audio for mic, corner placed viewfinder, mode dial, good quality touchscreen and last but not least a new menu.

 

[PVCdroid]

Sony's New Mgmt has a choice it probably has something in the pipeline ready to release but would not have developed it if it could turn the clock back. In several markets (particularly US) at not even high prices it needs 2 look like a dslr to sell hence the A3000 (nex in a dslr skin)

You can see where sony is going at the top end FF/Zeiss price ..it will be interesting to see if its going to abandon dslr and mirrorless (both have failed commercially).

The vast majority of NEX's sold are 3/5 and the vast amount of Sony lenses sold are the kit tele zoom, the 50mmSEL and the 16mmSEL .. the fact that sigma has sold a lot of the 30mmf2.8 is an important factor as well as is the fact so few zeiss lenses (and highly priced Sony lenses) were sold.

Take all this together and if mirrorless continues logically Sony should probably do a 5T more towards a 3 price just in black and just have a "right price set of black lenses" 16mm , 50mm OIS/AF , 35mm OIS/AF (priced as 50SEL) and hopefully a 85mmf2 OIS/AF, as well as the kit tele zoom

It would be nice if they could stretch to something like a right price 100mmf3ish OIS/AF or 100-150mm f4 OIS/AF zoom but perhaps commercially these would not be as big sellers as the core primes/kit zoom

and for the 6/7 .. maybe you could argue a case for a 6 if it could sell a lot more than it does but the 7 .. really why would you buy a 7 when you could get a FF ?

I bought a Nex7 for its size for travel and landscape work.

I have a D7000 with a bag full of ff compatible 2.8 lenses.

I don't want or need a full frame. If I did I would lean to the Nikon D610 as I have the FF lenses already.

I would buy a Nex7 replacement if it was still the same size and apc.

I'll bet I'm not alone.

Ken

You're not alone. I'm good for a few years with my NEX-7 but will be looking for APS-C solution then. I'm not ready or willing to replace my APS-C lenses. The image quality for the Nex 6/7 is very close to full frame (with the right lenses) from what I can see. The 24/50/16-70/10-18 are very good quality lenses and I like the format. Most have never shot 35mm/full frame and it is tougher to work with and less forgiving. I shot Nikon 35mm for 30 years and believe I'm done with that format. You need to be on your game to shoot it effectively. There SHOULD always be a market for APS-C. It's great that Sony has a full frame solution in mirrorless but they need to deliver deluxe NEX replacements for those of us that don't intend to go full frame. I think Sony wants the limelight on their new products and we'll see something good the beginning of next year. It could be they deliver new A3000 type cameras at first but will eventually come back to a NEX like model for us. There are many of us that have a few thousand invested in APS-C e-mount lenses and we aren't going to ditch them just because Sony has a full frame mirrorless camera.

 

[jack scholl]

Everyone will compare its image quality to the a7 and it won't be as good.

Size, weight and crop!

IQ is only relative to the other 3.

Just wondering why sony would bother upgrading the Nex7?

Upgrading for sure assuming the new offering solves some existing 7 issues - AF, menus, custom modes, etc.

Price alone seems silly?

Some still want a small, light, PREMIUM, ASP-C body and are willing to pay for it.

Is it just me that thinks this?

That is the question . . . how many does Sony think will buy and can they make $$ on it?

Just have to wait and see, but for those of us of similar persuasion with many SEL lenses, abandoning this segment will not be well received.

Jack

 

[Charlie Lab]

Everyone will compare its image quality to the a7 and it won't be as good.

Just wondering why sony would bother upgrading the Nex7?

Price alone seems silly?

Is it just me that thinks this?

 

[FuzzyQball]

The 5 is the sweet spot in terms of volume. I don't think there will be another NEX 7. I am OK with the new DSLR styling. The whole camera business is in trouble with far lower volumes than say 10 years ago.

 

[LSHorwitz1]

I love my NEX 7 and would give up too much if I moved to full frane,.

I really prefer smaller lenses, bodies, more telephoto, less weight, and very adequate 24MP pixel count, very good IQ, and great balance of cost versus quality.

Full frame does yield a stop or two of low light, speed advantage, but a Zeiss f/1.8 lens such as the 24mm makes me very satisfied in nearly all such situations with the NEX 7. Flash handles the rest.

Very shallow DOF is a double-edged sword. Be careful of what you wish for........ My FF and medium format days taught me to respect the virtues of APS-C style caneras years ago.

Larry

 

[PVCdroid]

I love my NEX 7 and would give up too much if I moved to full frane,.

I really prefer smaller lenses, bodies, more telephoto, less weight, and very adequate 24MP pixel count, very good IQ, and great balance of cost versus quality.

Full frame does yield a stop or two of low light, speed advantage, but a Zeiss f/1.8 lens such as the 24mm makes me very satisfied in nearly all such situations with the NEX 7. Flash handles the rest.

Very shallow DOF is a double-edged sword. Be careful of what you wish for........ My FF and medium format days taught me to respect the virtues of APS-C style caneras years ago.

Larry

No IBIS, No full frame.... Sony should just continue the NEX line and add more APS-C lenses while they're at it. Between SAR and this forum, the full frame wish came through with a detriment to the APS-C format.

 

[Picsmcgee]

Everyone will compare its image quality to the a7 and it won't be as good.

Just wondering why sony would bother upgrading the Nex7?

Price alone seems silly?

Is it just me that thinks this?

 

[Picsmcgee]

Sony's New Mgmt has a choice it probably has something in the pipeline ready to release but would not have developed it if it could turn the clock back. In several markets (particularly US) at not even high prices it needs 2 look like a dslr to sell hence the A3000 (nex in a dslr skin)

You can see where sony is going at the top end FF/Zeiss price ..it will be interesting to see if its going to abandon dslr and mirrorless (both have failed commercially).

The vast majority of NEX's sold are 3/5 and the vast amount of Sony lenses sold are the kit tele zoom, the 50mmSEL and the 16mmSEL .. the fact that sigma has sold a lot of the 30mmf2.8 is an important factor as well as is the fact so few zeiss lenses (and highly priced Sony lenses) were sold.

Take all this together and if mirrorless continues logically Sony should probably do a 5T more towards a 3 price just in black and just have a "right price set of black lenses" 16mm , 50mm OIS/AF , 35mm OIS/AF (priced as 50SEL) and hopefully a 85mmf2 OIS/AF, as well as the kit tele zoom

It would be nice if they could stretch to something like a right price 100mmf3ish OIS/AF or 100-150mm f4 OIS/AF zoom but perhaps commercially these would not be as big sellers as the core primes/kit zoom

and for the 6/7 .. maybe you could argue a case for a 6 if it could sell a lot more than it does but the 7 .. really why would you buy a 7 when you could get a FF ?

I bought a Nex7 for its size for travel and landscape work.

I have a D7000 with a bag full of ff compatible 2.8 lenses.

I don't want or need a full frame. If I did I would lean to the Nikon D610 as I have the FF lenses already.

I would buy a Nex7 replacement if it was still the same size and apc.

I'll bet I'm not alone.

Ken

You're not alone. I'm good for a few years with my NEX-7 but will be looking for APS-C solution then. I'm not ready or willing to replace my APS-C lenses. The image quality for the Nex 6/7 is very close to full frame (with the right lenses) from what I can see. The 24/50/16-70/10-18 are very good quality lenses and I like the format. Most have never shot 35mm/full frame and it is tougher to work with and less forgiving. I shot Nikon 35mm for 30 years and believe I'm done with that format. You need to be on your game to shoot it effectively. There SHOULD always be a market for APS-C. It's great that Sony has a full frame solution in mirrorless but they need to deliver deluxe NEX replacements for those of us that don't intend to go full frame. I think Sony wants the limelight on their new products and we'll see something good the beginning of next year. It could be they deliver new A3000 type cameras at first but will eventually come back to a NEX like model for us. There are many of us that have a few thousand invested in APS-C e-mount lenses and we aren't going to ditch them just because Sony has a full frame mirrorless camera.

I tried the A7 at the store with my 10-18 emount lens and some orher emount lens's and i was very pleased with them. I see no reason why i would replace them if i got to the A7

 

[Glenn]

Until now NEX hasn't entirely been about iq. A new 7 should do fine.
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[Pat Whittingham]

Owning an NEX-7, EM-1 & GX-7, A99 and A7R has allowed me to objectively assess the merits of each system for my needs. I find no one system can do it all without compromises. Each excel is some way. All can do the job to a greater or lesser degree. And aside from image/audio performance is the handling characteristics and “feel” which differ significantly.

If I chose the camera I most enjoy using for casual/social photography, it would be the GX-7.

However, if I made the choice of the camera which best addresses most of my work and personal needs, it would be the NEX-7. By way of example sweep panorama is an often-overlooked, giving impact to double page book layouts. motion blur has allowed me to capture noticeably better low light shots of stage performers (for a cruise line) . Having 24 Mpixels gives also gives me more cropping latitude where I may need to create a portrait layout from landscape for a community magazine cover. And I expect the NEX-7 successor will just enhance these capabilities while adding faster and more consistent auto focus. So count me amongst those who want a successor and actually prefer the APS-C format.

I prefer the A99 with Zeiss 24-70mm f2.8 for my video applications (more so than the GH3 which was replaced by an EM-1 for still applications). It is also a superb camera for handling fashion photography (runway work).

MFT has a broad and deep lens offering. By way of example the new 12-40mm f2.8 lens is quite remarkable. For many shooters, the smaller sensor will deliver more sharp images than the larger APS-C and FF sensors. IMHO, it is a better system for the casual photographer.

I have high hopes for the A7R for landscape and travel photography. But like the long wait for better glass for the NEX-7, I expect it will be a few years before I have the lenses I’d like.

Over time, I expect my use of the NEX-7 (and successor) and A7R will expand, and my use of MFT will diminish. The last vestige may be telephoto applications. … where else can you get 600mm equivalent in such a manageable package? The EM-1/Grip/100-300mm is surprisingly effective for wildlife.

The physical packaging of the A7/A7R with Sony E-series Zeiss glass such as the 16-70mm is wonderful. And 15 megapixels is enough for much of my work. With FE Zeiss glass I expect A7R will match a D800 (which I recently sold). I love the idea of using some FE and E lenses interchangeably eg. FE 55mm f1.8 lens in crop mode having 82mm equivalent focal length for portrait use. And using a Zeiss 12mm, CZ24mm and 16-70mm f4 Z zoom on the A7R gives me a reasonable transition plan until more FE glass becomes available.

Sorry for being so long-winded but I for one am looking forward to an NEX-7 successor.

 

[MrT-Man]

I agree with a lot of what's been said. I'm happy with my APS-C lenses (Touit 12, Z24, Touit 32, 50/1.8), I don't want or need shallower DOF, and I don't want to add any weight or bulk to my setup. Give me an NEX-7 successor with a better sensor (less noise, better performance at high ISO, and a little more dynamic range would be nice) and I'll be happy.

 

[FramerDave]

Sony's New Mgmt has a choice it probably has something in the pipeline ready to release but would not have developed it if it could turn the clock back. In several markets (particularly US) at not even high prices it needs 2 look like a dslr to sell hence the A3000 (nex in a dslr skin)

You can see where sony is going at the top end FF/Zeiss price ..it will be interesting to see if its going to abandon dslr and mirrorless (both have failed commercially).

The vast majority of NEX's sold are 3/5 and the vast amount of Sony lenses sold are the kit tele zoom, the 50mmSEL and the 16mmSEL .. the fact that sigma has sold a lot of the 30mmf2.8 is an important factor as well as is the fact so few zeiss lenses (and highly priced Sony lenses) were sold.

Take all this together and if mirrorless continues logically Sony should probably do a 5T more towards a 3 price just in black and just have a "right price set of black lenses" 16mm , 50mm OIS/AF , 35mm OIS/AF (priced as 50SEL) and hopefully a 85mmf2 OIS/AF, as well as the kit tele zoom

It would be nice if they could stretch to something like a right price 100mmf3ish OIS/AF or 100-150mm f4 OIS/AF zoom but perhaps commercially these would not be as big sellers as the core primes/kit zoom

and for the 6/7 .. maybe you could argue a case for a 6 if it could sell a lot more than it does but the 7 .. really why would you buy a 7 when you could get a FF ?

I bought a Nex7 for its size for travel and landscape work.

I have a D7000 with a bag full of ff compatible 2.8 lenses.

I don't want or need a full frame. If I did I would lean to the Nikon D610 as I have the FF lenses already.

I would buy a Nex7 replacement if it was still the same size and apc.

I'll bet I'm not alone.

Ken

You're not alone. I'm good for a few years with my NEX-7 but will be looking for APS-C solution then. I'm not ready or willing to replace my APS-C lenses. The image quality for the Nex 6/7 is very close to full frame (with the right lenses) from what I can see. The 24/50/16-70/10-18 are very good quality lenses and I like the format. Most have never shot 35mm/full frame and it is tougher to work with and less forgiving. I shot Nikon 35mm for 30 years and believe I'm done with that format. You need to be on your game to shoot it effectively. There SHOULD always be a market for APS-C. It's great that Sony has a full frame solution in mirrorless but they need to deliver deluxe NEX replacements for those of us that don't intend to go full frame. I think Sony wants the limelight on their new products and we'll see something good the beginning of next year. It could be they deliver new A3000 type cameras at first but will eventually come back to a NEX like model for us. There are many of us that have a few thousand invested in APS-C e-mount lenses and we aren't going to ditch them just because Sony has a full frame mirrorless camera.

Same here, I have A900, A99 with many 2.8 zooms and STF, etc. I know I can throw my e-mount on the A7R and get something like 16mp out of it but I simply don't want to buy yet another line of lenses so waiting to see what the Nex7 replacement would be like. Actually hoping for fast PDAF and or IBIS since not all e-mounts have OIS. No rush for me since I also have the RX1.

 

[CrzyTrekker]

I would buy it because I prefer the smaller size/weight. A lot of us just don't want to be bothered with the size factor of a full-frame camera, particularly when pursuing activities like travel, mountaineering and backpacking.

Also, I'll have two or three e-mount Zeiss lenses by then...

 

[luke8]

When I changed from a bridge system to Nex three years ago it was for the small size combined with the amazing iq. The Nex 7 was already bigger than the first Nex due to the evf, but still small enough. I travel a lot and my luggage is already now heavier than airlines allow. At home I take my nicest pictures during hiking trips. The Nex 7 with 24 mp was just the right camera at the top end of apsc-e-mount and I have bought expensive lenses for it. I think the size and the price of lenses is a good reason to continue the Nex-7 type of camera and you can take price-winning photos with both systems.

I also think, you get the wrong impression on this forum. It is the biggest forum and used by technical enthusiasts all over the world.