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As a birder/photographer on a budget I am in the same boat as so many others who want the longest reach they can get, without the premium price of ‘Big Glass’. I did a lot of research on lens and teleconverter combinations that would increase my focal length, without decreasing my bank account (too much). For me, the best option was this 1.7x teleconverter in combination with a Nikkor 300mm f/4 lens.

When shopping for a teleconverter, the key concerns are image quality, loss of light (f-stop), and focus speed. I will address each one separately…

Image Quality – For me, there is very little loss of image quality when using this TC versus shooting without it. I would venture to say that other causes - flaws in my technique, or unfavorable light - are much more likely to affect IQ than the glass in this teleconverter. With a reasonable shutter speed I am able to get sharp images of even tough subjects, like birds in flight.

Loss of Light – This is a simple numbers game. Any teleconverter will result in a loss of light. The 1.4x TC costs you 1 stop of light and this 1.7x TC costs 1 ½ stops of light, so in my case my 300mm f/4 lens becomes a 500mm (technically 510mm) f/6.7 - a worthwhile trade off in my book. In my experience, the camera is able to focus with this combination up to f/8.

Focus Speed – There is no use denying that this TC does affect focus speed, as I expect all teleconverters do. Trying to describe how fast or slow it is seems futile, since ‘slow’ and ‘fast’ are so subjective. Instead I will simply say that it is noticeably slower with the TC on, but not so slow that I can’t get the shot. I would also add that good field technique can minimize this issue significantly. For example, if you anticipate a subject or shooting opportunity, you can pre-focus at approximately the same distance. That way the lens only has to make a very slight adjustment, which it can do very quickly. For my use, I have even been able to track and obtain focus on fast moving birds like hawks and swallows. Slower subjects like mammals are a piece of cake.

In summary, I have been using this Teleconverter for several years with no issues. The build quality is very good. Being a Nikon product, it communicates with my camera with no issues. I have not used other brands so I cannot make comparisons. I can only say that I have never regretted purchasing it. It has been a great addition to my bag and is on my camera 80% of the time.
 
I have the tc 1.4EII and tc 1.7EII and use the tc 1.4EII most of the time on my Nikon 500mm f4.0 vr lens. The tc 1.4EII does not depend on the light for quick accurate focusing where the tc 1.7EII is slightly slower in focusing and depends a lot more on desirable light to obtain good focus. The sharpness of the tc 1.7 is not as sharp as the tc 1.4. I tried the tc 2.0EIII and the focus was too slow mounted on my d4.



Larry
 
larrywilson wrote:

I have the tc 1.4EII and tc 1.7EII and use the tc 1.4EII most of the time on my Nikon 500mm f4.0 vr lens. The tc 1.4EII does not depend on the light for quick accurate focusing where the tc 1.7EII is slightly slower in focusing and depends a lot more on desirable light to obtain good focus. The sharpness of the tc 1.7 is not as sharp as the tc 1.4. I tried the tc 2.0EIII and the focus was too slow mounted on my d4.

Larry
Thanks for the added information. The 500mm and 14EII combo is very popular, but only a dream for me (unless I strike it rich:-D). I am not surprised that the 1.4EII is a better performer, but I needed the extra reach of the 17EII. I have also heard that the 20EII is the slowest and softest of the set. As for sharpness, I guess it is somewhat relative. Based on information available at the time, the Nikon 80-400 was already less sharp than my current combo with the 17EII. The same was true for the 'Bigma' Sigma 50-500mm. So far I am happy with the results up to 16x20 print size.

Jeff
 
Another possibility: Nikon V1 (still available cheap in places - under $300 without a lens) with FT-1 adapter ($185). For about the price of a Nikon TC you get a 10mp camera with a 2.7x crop factor. Make a 55-200vr lens into a 540mm vr lens with no loss of light. Make a 55-300vr lens into a 810mm vr lens with no loss of light. Central point autofocus. Fast burst rates possible. Can be very interesting in certain situations.
 
Although the reported length in EXF is remarkably inconsistent. I use it when necessary with my D7100 and 500 f4 AF-S. It is better than using the TC-14E and cropping. Works pretty well on my 300 f2.8 VR and sometimes use it in the car with a beanbag this way.
 
Tc2III/300 2.8vr on the D7100. Handheld, uncomfortably (no bean bag or support from the jeep) . I did not have the 500vr to hand (it was in the backseat :( )



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I wish I had put it on earlier. These were taken earlier with the D3S and same combo put 13MP makes a big difference. I've never seen an Indian Bittern in extended flight before and normally only have seen the Night herons at dusk. The D7100 should have handled these well if not better ;) .

Huge crops and BIF against a plain sky, boring, but unusual for me and should have done better :(



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This is the only lens I use it on. I'm still a fan of the 1.7 (or 1.67 ;) ) . Would like a new version of both the 1.4 and 1.7.

Cheers,

--
Anticipate the Light and wing it when you get it wrong
Tom
 
Gerard turned me off the TC20EIII with the 300 f2.8 VR because he found that it wasn't good at a distance. It is good close up though. My other most-used lenses - the 70-200 f2.8 VR and 500 f4 - are not reputed to like this converter at all. I'm excited about a TC-14E replacement as mine is now 17 years old and in the middle in 80% of my shots.
 
on distance which is why I do not use it for soccer on the 70-200vrII. The Pond heron is around 15 meters. The other two are at about 30+ meters. I have sharper Pond herons (probably on the same fence post ;) ) shot with the 500vr using a bean bag. For the detail that Gerard demands I really see his point!

I may actually remove the bucket seat on the passenger side of the jeep so that I can get better positions for shooting. It is nice for chatting with another shooter but two people can't shoot from the front seats anyway ;) . A.J. always has the back seat. Shame about the "5 on the floor" gear shift :) . Ronnie's old Green Chevy Pickup had a bench seat :) .
 
I own the TC14eII and TC17eII. Both TC's are very sharp and you will take a slight hit in AF speed with the TC17 depending on the lens being used. Losing a half stop more of light with the TC17 isn't as bad as it use to be because the newer DSLR's handle higher ISO better.

Recently, I had to send in my US model of the TC14eII for repair and the cost was around 150 dollars to correct, but came back good as new.

Depending on your camera and a roll of the dice you may not have to AF fine tune at all. I've owned 5 D300's and most were sent back for front or back focusing issues. I sent back my current D300 for an AF adjustment and still need to AF fine tune with it. When you finally, get the tuning adjusted the images should be sharp. I hope Nikon will employ an option in the future to auto fine tune our cameras. It can be a tedious experience for the photographer to say the least.

Speaking of af fine tuning, my D3 and D700 never needed any AF fine tuning and only 1 out of 5 of my D300's never needed af fine tuning either.

My current D7100 needs a -6 af fine tuning with my 600mm VR. This is after sending the camera in to Nikon LA to correct back focusing.

Here is an image with the D300 + TC17eII and 300mm VR1 lens for 510mm, though the exif will say 500mm. View the larger version. The crop is about 35 percent or close to it. For BIF I do prefer the TC14eII for quicker response.





Here is a closeup with the D300 and TC14eII. Once again, view the larger image.

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cheeers,

Ray
 
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Hi,

There is an excellent review of all the Nikon teleconverters, complete with measurements of loss of sharpness etc., at different focal lengths and with different lenses, by Nasim Mansurov, here - http://photographylife.com/image-degradation-with-nikon-teleconverters. As a fellow birder trying to get the longest reach for the lowest cost, still with good image quality, I found that very helpful. I use the 300 f4 AF-S with TCE-14ll most of the time.
 

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