Need 400mm Zoom - Canon seems limited ?

[crazybadger]

Lemming51 wrote:

crazybadger wrote:

Philip Kendall wrote:

tvstaff wrote:

Could this be right? Is this the ONLY 400 telphoto zoom that canon offers under $10,000???

Nikon don't offer anything significantly different. They'll sell you an 80-400 instead of the 100-400 (no great difference there) and a slightly cheaper 200-400 (but older and without the built-in TC). This probably says what there's a market for...

...and isn't the Nikon 80-400 very slow focussing? I remember talking to a few Nikon shooters at an airshow saying they were looking at getting a canon just so they could use the 100-400 on it.

The original 80-400 f/4.5-5.6D had the slotted screw focus driven by the camera's AF motor. It was very slow. The current model is AF-S with it's own Silent Wave Motor and I'd expect it to be as fast as the EF 100-400.

 

[Lemming51]

steelhead3 wrote:

The sony is 70/400 f4-5.6, please be more careful when stating facts.

Thank you. It was a typo (too many similar ranges) that I caught after editing time had expired. Didn't think it warranted correcting with an additional post, but I guess I was wrong.

 

[YehudaKatz]

tvstaff wrote:

Hi I need a 400MM zoom lens for a 1DX for sports and it seems that I'm limited to the Canon Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens

Could this be right? Is this the ONLY 400 telphoto zoom that canon offers under $10,000???

Thank you!

TV

 

[R2D2]

tvstaff wrote:

I need a little faster glass.

Short of using a prime (to get beyond 300mm), the Sigma 120-300 is pretty fast (f/2.8 throughout) and sports shooters speak very favorably of it...

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-137101-...&qid=1377898019&sr=8-1&keywords=sigma+120-300

Do you think the Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens will perform as well as the 70-200 f/2.8 USM IS II?

Not if you need the shutter speed that only f/2.8 can provide. At f/5.6 the (newer) 100-400s are excellent.

Myself, I prefer the telephoto primes for sports (plus a wide to mid angle zoom). The primes outperform the telephoto zooms in every way except for freedom of framing.

R2

 

[NancyP]

The Sigma 50-500mm is slower than Canon on the long end. There are under-$10K 400mm primes, the 400mm f/5.6L and the 400mm f/4L DO. There is a universal lack of less-expensive fast long zooms, simply because large-aperture long telephotos are expensive to make.

For fast long zooms, your most affordable option is to rent. The choices are the new Canon 200-400mm f/4 L IS etc, and the fabled Sigma 200-500mm f/2.8, weighing 34 pounds. .

 

[photonius]

tvstaff wrote:

Hi I need a 400MM zoom lens for a 1DX for sports and it seems that I'm limited to the Canon Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens

Could this be right? Is this the ONLY 400 telphoto zoom that canon offers under $10,000???

Thank you!

actually, there is also the Canon PowerShot SX50 HS , up to 1200mm (but it has a body attached

and the actual focal length is 215mm). ;-)

 

[carnac]

How about the Canon 400/f5.6 L? If you can get by without the zoom, then it is an excellent lens. Often nice used ones available at less then $1000. New from B&H for $1219. Refurbished from Canon for $1071.

I have several lenses from Canon Referb - could not tell them from new and now they come with a 1 year warranty (was 90 days when I got mine).

The 100-400 is only $1359 on the Canon Referb site.

 

[Schwany]

Ya know what I mean Tony? Da camera it's a no good.

 

[Gearóid Ó Laoi Garry Lee]

A 300 would do...

I think that Canon made a mistake with the 1Dx. They should've persisted with the APS-H format.

I've a 1Div and a 1Dsiii. I almost don't use the 1Dsiii.

A 1Div with the 1Dx's AF (If what's being said about it is not hype, and it could be) would be my animal.

 

[94]

R2D2 wrote:

Myself, I prefer the telephoto primes for sports (plus a wide to mid angle zoom). The primes outperform the telephoto zooms in every way except for freedom of framing.

R2

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X2, both the Canon 300 and 400mm lenses are very sharp and so allow for framing in PP . Do any zooming at your computer.

 

[oklaphotog]

crazybadger wrote:

Lemming51 wrote:

tvstaff wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

tvstaff wrote:

Hi I need a 400MM zoom lens for a 1DX for sports and it seems that I'm limited to the Canon Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens

And this lens is limiting you how?

R2

I need a little faster glass.

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/7...ful-picture-of-a-talented-kitesurfer-in-aruba This 7D 160mm='s a 240mm at 4.5 on the 1DX

EF 1.4x III (or simlar) might be your solution. Gives you 98-280 f/4 where the 100-400 is f/5.6 by 250mm. Or EF 300 f/4L IS USM.

 

[RedFox88]

dgovoni wrote:

tvstaff wrote:

Hi I need a 400MM zoom lens for a 1DX for sports and it seems that I'm limited to the Canon Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens

Could this be right? Is this the ONLY 400 telphoto zoom that canon offers under $10,000???

Thank you!

TV

the new 200-400 with the built-in 1.4x TC

Did you read? He said "... under $10,000" which is the reason he stated it referring to the 200-400. Wow, guess people can't read past a sentence .

 

[Jan from UK]

I have both these lenses, both are excellent. They travel with me everywhere.

 

[BAK]

What's this?

EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM

Found it on Canon USA web site. $1700.

L-series super telephoto zoom lens equipped with an Image Stabilizer. The fluorite and Super UD-glass elements largely eliminate secondary spectrum. The floating system also ensures high picture quality at all focal lengths. The Image Stabilizer has two modes and it is compatible with Extenders 1.4x II and 2x II.

Sigma have at least two zooms that include 400 mm focal lengths.

 

[tvstaff]

tvstaff wrote:

Hi I need a 400MM zoom lens for a 1DX for sports and it seems that I'm limited to the Canon Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens

Could this be right? Is this the ONLY 400 telphoto zoom that canon offers under $10,000???

Thank you!

TV

Am I correct that the Canon 100-400 is a push-pull? I understand they are not good with sand and dust! Has anyone found that to be true?

I need a lens as tight as the 70-200 f/2.8 IS ISM II at "400mm." I think I'm out of luck! And... I don't want the loss of IQ with a TC.

Thank you,

TV

 

[Black Dot Bob]

tvstaff wrote:

Hi I need a 400MM zoom lens for a 1DX for sports and it seems that I'm limited to the Canon Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens

Could this be right? Is this the ONLY 400 telphoto zoom that canon offers under $10,000???

Thank you!

TV

Seems that there IS a 'Glass Ceiling' when it comes to long Lenses after all.

Seems if you want Class Glass they got you by the A$$.

 

[Schwany]

Put a 1.4x extender on it if you need to. Very hand holdable even with a pro body. Suggested only if it turns out your exchange 1DX doesn't work any better than the first one.

smiley face

 

[tvstaff]

Really look forward to hitting the BEACH with my 1DX. Need 400mm. Perhaps Schwany has a solution!



Schwany wrote:

Put a 1.4x extender on it if you need to. Very hand holdable even with a pro body. Suggested only if it turns out your exchange 1DX doesn't work any better than the first one.

smiley face

My new 1DX is fine! Thank you It will be back tomorrow from CPS all is well. Tech was spot on and they have 2 other lenses. CPS so far is a class act. Unlike me!

So you say put the 1.4 on this lens? : http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=732108&is=USA&A=details&Q=

I'd love this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/732109-USA/Canon_4412B002_EF_400mm_f_2_8L_IS.html but my arms will fall off and even with a GREAT gimbal I'll never move fast enough up/down/left/right.

You ever use one of these?

Could be a lot in 100+ degree weather. Ideal though so no one steals your gear and you can carry two bodies with big lenses and all the pressure is on your hips.

If you have a shot with the 300 and 1.4 I'd love to see it! I'm really worried about IQ more than light but with the 1DX I shoot at higher ISO so f/4 in the bright sun WILL work!!!

Thank you!

Tony

 

[sailorboy2]

Hi Schwany,

You or any of your imaging buddies using the new Canon 200-400? Been on the B&H waiting list for ages but still no word.

Ken

 

[Schwany]

sailorboy2 wrote:

Hi Schwany,

You or any of your imaging buddies using the new Canon 200-400? Been on the B&H waiting list for ages but still no word.

Ken

Nope. I'm not all that interested myself, but I can certainly see the utility of the lens. I haven't talked to anyone that has one. And I'm pretty sure I've never seen one at the races. I'm not an explorer of light either, so I'd be waiting for one just like anyone else, if I was buying one.