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Hi My names James im 19 and have just completed a Hnc Course in Photography and Im thinking of setting my own wee home picture selling Business up

i am thinking of Selling some A3 high quality photo prints using A3 Satin Photo paper Pearl Premium 280g and a Canon Pixma ix6550 a3+ colour Photo Printer , How much would be acceptable to charge? i know my photos are what someone would want on their wall but i Don't want to charge too little or too much example of some of the photos id be printing my website
 
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OK how much is the printer? how much are the inks? How much is the paper? How many prints will you get from the inks/printer before the inks are no longer available or the printer breaks or is superseded?

Would your money and time be better off spent getting a pro lab to do it?

Technology changes fast, why buy equipment that will sit doing nothing most of it's life? If you get orders farm out the prints, even to someone like bonusprint.co.uk, yes it will cost you £5 a print, but how many are you realistically going to sell enough to pay for the prints/ink/your time/computer/cameras?

My advice, FWIW, get your images in a photolibrary and see if they sell, also sort out the thumbnails on your website. They a so soft I almost didn't...
You want to start and run a business - and size does not matter - you need to learn BUSINESS.

WHAT the business does is maybe 20% of of the business. It could be photography, hamburgers, wedding dresses, etc.

Step one when starting from scratch is to determine the current market for what you want to sell - Is there anyone wanting to buy it? How many want to buy it? What price are they willing to pay?

Go into a ghetto and open a Rolls Royce dealership and the business will fail. No customers for that product in that area at that price.

You can do this by looking at who else is selling what you want to sell - what are they selling, their price, how big/busy they are (10 employees, main street location or one guy working from home with a day job to pay the bills?

If you determine there is a market for what you wish to sell now you have to determine your costs. Your camera, education, lights, computer, software all cost money. Sure you got them before you went into business but the business needs them - so there is a 'cost' to their use. If I wanted to use your camera and computer to go make money you'd not just give them to me - you'd want paid for my using them. To consider otherwise is lying to yourself and a good first step to failure.

You have marketing costs - how do people know you exist and have stuff for sale? Website, biz cards, etc.

What is your time worth? It can take 100 hours to get setup and going - name, logo, finding the best web provider, etc. If you asked someone else to do it they'd want paid, per hour, to do it. Why should you work for free? You shouldn't of course. Yes, one day you may make money so for now your efforts are 'sweat equity' - but just as if you asked a friend to spend 100 hours 'and i'll pay you later when the business is a success' you need to be sure the business WILL be a success - hence the research in the beginning.

Now you need among many things, a REASON for the business to exist. Just because YOU want to make money means nothing. Unless it's a growing market (and nothing in photography is these days) the only way for you to get customers is to STEAL THEM from other businesses - so you have to have a really good reason for customers to choose you over them - where they're used to going, businesses that have WOM and a reputation.

What to Charge? Well, you have your costs from above. Your time up front to get the biz going, the time to keep it going (10 hours a week?) plus the actual cost of the product (picture taking, edit, print, packaging, delivery).

If you work out you need $50k a year and can sell 100 of them then you need to get $500 each. If you think you can 1000 then you only need $50 each. Of if you find everyone else is asking $25 a picture you know you'll need to sell 2000 pictures a year, or 80 a week.

Can you sell 8i0 a week? How will you do that? If you needed to sell 80 prints next week how would you do it? what will that cost in time and money?

Now you have some idea of what it's going to take to be successful.

Sound like work? Yep, it IS work. But it can of course be done - it won't be as easy as 'i want 10 quid for my pictures' and have people que up to hand it over.

But doing this 'business plan' will save you from wasting your time, money and increases your chance of success.

As to selling prints..I've gotten from $9 to $120 for an a3 print - it all depends on who the customer is, what type of photography it is, time of the year, if they're buying one copy or 100.
 
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I'd suggest getting a booth at a local flea market or advertising on Craig's list or Ebay and see if there's a market for the images (in any format) before using up a bunch of ink.
 
Hi James

Welcome to DPR. I hope you find it useful and informative.

Based where you are you've got some wonderful landscape around you, and you've been taking advantage of that

Probably the best established landscape photographer in Scotland is Colin Prior. He sells from a very well set up website, tourist and gift shops. He's everywhere, and worked very hard to establish his business over many years. Have a look at both his work and his business set up and see what you can learn from them. You need to decide what and where your market is.

Bear in mind that any punter with a digital camera of 8MP can get a decent A3 print of their favourite shot for as little as £4.00 these days. And that won't be inkjet. When I started with digital, I printed on Inkjet. For the last 10 years I've had all my sales prints done by Loxley in Cumbernauld. Upload, get them posted out to me. Leaves a lot of time which I can spend creating more business.

Good wishes for your career.
 
I'm interested to see how soon the OP comes back to discuss his project with the various kind souls who have taken time to try to help him.

Tony
 
Okay james, Im not trying to be a **** but.. That Post processing you have done on that Jeep wheel, You need to take that plug-in/filter/PP style and bury it in a deep hole and never go back to it. Sorry, just telling it how I see it.. :-/
 
OK how much is the printer? how much are the inks? How much is the paper? How many prints will you get from the inks/printer before the inks are no longer available or the printer breaks or is superseded?

Would your money and time be better off spent getting a pro lab to do it?

Technology changes fast, why buy equipment that will sit doing nothing most of it's life? If you get orders farm out the prints, even to someone like bonusprint.co.uk, yes it will cost you £5 a print, but how many are you realistically going to sell enough to pay for the prints/ink/your time/computer/cameras?

My advice, FWIW, get your images in a photolibrary and see if they sell, also sort out the thumbnails on your website. They a so soft I almost didn't click on them. Also don't sell A3 prints, do you know how hard it is finding a nice frame that is A3? 16x12 yes,

Think about how people will find you. People do just think "I want a picture of a scottish landscape on my wall, I'll google one" People holiday in the area, get a feel for the place stop in a coffee shop, bar or restaurant, eat drink and be merry and think I quite like that print on the wall.

But you still won't make enough to buy and run your printer.

So you need to invest in prints and frames not printers just yet. Even if the prints in Cafe's don't sell you get to keep them for your own wall, and if you don't want to be sat sitting at them you have to go out and sell them.

Also don't work for free, it undermines the value of your work and the value of photography and the profession.

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Jamesmurrayphotography wrote:

Hi My names James im 19 and have just completed a Hnc Course in Photography and Im thinking of setting my own wee home picture selling Business up

i am thinking of Selling some A3 high quality photo prints using A3 Satin Photo paper Pearl Premium 280g and a Canon Pixma ix6550 a3+ colour Photo Printer , How much would be acceptable to charge? i know my photos are what someone would want on their wall but i Don't want to charge too little or too much example of some of the photos id be printing my website
Without looking at your photos I think you're misjudging the competition. Take a survey of local and internet print shops for similar quality A3 prints. Then decide if you can at least match those prices. Chances are that you will find your material cost (ink and paper) will exceed what they are charging. And that is without adding in your time, the printer cost and upkeep, etc. etc. Remember to calculate in test prints unless you have a foolproof color matching system already worked out. The companies you will likely be competing with buy paper and ink in cheap bulk quantities. Also they run robust printers that can output thousands of photos without clogging or missfeeding expensive paper.

A suggestion is to print your images and find a cafe or shop willing to allow you to exhibit them. If you print other peoples photos and get them mounted you may get some inquiries. People pick photos to display on their walls that are either personal (family or travel) or match their decor. Safest to print black and white since these prints go with just about any interior color scheme and furniture.
 
PenguinPhotoCo wrote:

You want to start and run a business - and size does not matter - you need to learn BUSINESS.

WHAT the business does is maybe 20% of of the business. It could be photography, hamburgers, wedding dresses, etc.

Step one when starting from scratch is to determine the current market for what you want to sell - Is there anyone wanting to buy it? How many want to buy it? What price are they willing to pay?

Go into a ghetto and open a Rolls Royce dealership and the business will fail. No customers for that product in that area at that price.

You can do this by looking at who else is selling what you want to sell - what are they selling, their price, how big/busy they are (10 employees, main street location or one guy working from home with a day job to pay the bills?

If you determine there is a market for what you wish to sell now you have to determine your costs. Your camera, education, lights, computer, software all cost money. Sure you got them before you went into business but the business needs them - so there is a 'cost' to their use. If I wanted to use your camera and computer to go make money you'd not just give them to me - you'd want paid for my using them. To consider otherwise is lying to yourself and a good first step to failure.

You have marketing costs - how do people know you exist and have stuff for sale? Website, biz cards, etc.

What is your time worth? It can take 100 hours to get setup and going - name, logo, finding the best web provider, etc. If you asked someone else to do it they'd want paid, per hour, to do it. Why should you work for free? You shouldn't of course. Yes, one day you may make money so for now your efforts are 'sweat equity' - but just as if you asked a friend to spend 100 hours 'and i'll pay you later when the business is a success' you need to be sure the business WILL be a success - hence the research in the beginning.

Now you need among many things, a REASON for the business to exist. Just because YOU want to make money means nothing. Unless it's a growing market (and nothing in photography is these days) the only way for you to get customers is to STEAL THEM from other businesses - so you have to have a really good reason for customers to choose you over them - where they're used to going, businesses that have WOM and a reputation.

What to Charge? Well, you have your costs from above. Your time up front to get the biz going, the time to keep it going (10 hours a week?) plus the actual cost of the product (picture taking, edit, print, packaging, delivery).

If you work out you need $50k a year and can sell 100 of them then you need to get $500 each. If you think you can 1000 then you only need $50 each. Of if you find everyone else is asking $25 a picture you know you'll need to sell 2000 pictures a year, or 80 a week.

Can you sell 8i0 a week? How will you do that? If you needed to sell 80 prints next week how would you do it? what will that cost in time and money?
Now you have some idea of what it's going to take to be successful.

Sound like work? Yep, it IS work. But it can of course be done - it won't be as easy as 'i want 10 quid for my pictures' and have people que up to hand it over.

But doing this 'business plan' will save you from wasting your time, money and increases your chance of success.

As to selling prints..I've gotten from $9 to $120 for an a3 print - it all depends on who the customer is, what type of photography it is, time of the year, if they're buying one copy or 100.
 
-- Thank you everyone, you have been really helpfull, i have made another site now as well

J.Murray http://jamesmurrayphotographys.weebly.com/ yes they may be over processed but i like bright vibrant images and a couple of villagers like them too
 
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Not very much at all. A3+ isn't that big or impressive for a wall and your images are pretty average at best. I'd say you'd be looking at sub £10 at a max for the print plus extra for the frame/mounting, etc.

I don't mean to be harsh here fella, but you're one of a million people who can operate a camera to a sufficient degree to get a "nice" photo and can afford an A3 printer. But there's nothing special or unique that will make them sell over the millions of other prints you can buy on the internet.

I know a few people who have tried this business in the UK with websites and images with similar quality if not a little better than yours and the ink in their printers dried up between orders.

Like I said, the truth can be unpleasant, but it is the truth.
 
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