I was hoping for more from the 14n. Just handeled it today!

[Erika]

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted). The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the N80. The build is like the F100 but maybe not as refined. The 2 blow ups really didn't do anything for me. Remember I am a loyal Nikon user. i went to the Canon stand and saw Monte Zuker giving a live demo with the D1s . The prints were being printed on Canon Bubble jets as he worked. They were great 11 x 14 prints. Sharp and really nice. The camera is really well built and out does the Kodak in all respects that I could "see'. Like builld, auto focus , Lay out etc. It is also more esthetically pleasing. Interestingly enough Canon kept denying that there is a set price and wouldn't even give out an estimate on the price . They just told me that they know it will have to be competitive. By the way i spoke to one of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about the use of this N80's autofocus and he did not dey my complaints. he just replied that they have to cut corners in order to keep the price down somewhere and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it might be inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon when it comes to resolution and exposure. We need someone like Phil to test it out bec. the prints i saw wouldn't impress anyone.
--
Erika Lemberger

 

[Jay Kelbley]

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i
picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted).

We had a bunch of cameras (and cards at the show..)
BOTH of the cameras hanging off of my shoulders, have/had cards in them..

(I was the big, fat guy with the beard, in the black sports coat, with the two 14n cameras hanging on him.. Near the other 10 Kodak reps, with 14n cameras attached to their arms..)
What is your question/issue with cards?

The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the N80.

The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise here is...

By the way i spoke to one of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about
the use of this N80's autofocus and he did not dey my complaints.

he just replied that they have to cut corners in order to keep the price > down somewhere and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it > might be inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon
when it comes to resolution and exposure.

???????

I'm assuming that you talked to me.... (or one of the several other competent Kodak folk at the stand.....)
When you build a camera (or a car, or anything else) you can make trade offs..

In the case of the 14n, we put our effort, investment, etc. into the sensor, electronics, image quality... etc... and did NOT invest in the highest frame rate, flash sync. etc..

The result is a camera that yields the HIGHEST RESOLUTION and SHARPEST IMAGES of any digital SLR on the market..

If you 8FPS, then this is not the camera for you...

If you need HIGH RESOLUTION and GREAT IMAGE QUALITY, then this is the best option...

-Jay

--
Jay Kelbley
-Eastman Kodak Company
[email protected]

 

[Erika]

Jay i didn't speak to you I spoke to another tall heavy set man. I was handed a camera sans card and the issue is that I like to see the images 9however a poor judge of anything that may be) on any digital camera while "I" am taking the picture's. Those 2 picture's on the wall could have been taken with my D1x theyt were not breath taking. Look at the picture's at the Canon stand. Look at the picture's Monte took on the fly! Why couldn't you demo your camera like that? I own a D1x and i once owned the Canon (as well as Contax and Minolta, Rollei, Olympus systems) All the camera's i owned were top of the line models. I am very unbiased towards companies. But i am very fickle and terribly choosy when it comes to camera's. All I have today is the Nikon's (as far as 35mm is concerned and digital). I know Nikon VERY well. I HATED the Auto focus on the N80. Yes I know there has to be some trade-offs bec. of price consideration but i also know as a working pro who works under the stress and fast paced nature of event photography (not sports, by the way) that Auto focus does count and it does so very much!!!I have sold plenty of camera's i purchased precisely bec. of that issue. For the most part i use my camera's on Manual so it exposure in camera isn't a first critera. Listen Jay I appreciate and actually cherish the fact that you give us all so much attention here and that you care to inform us and stand behind your product, but please give me a little leaway here. i am not gripiing about weather proofing of a built in flash's strength. I got the feeling at the show today after talking to allot of Brooklyn Wedding Port. photographer's that people left feeling more confused then elated at the current state of digital affairs. it's almost like we are all standing at a cross road! Not only do we have to dish out lots of money every year for new pro camera's but we are not even sure who to pledge alligence too!!!! Nikon give's us a knockout firs the D1, then camera goes an inch further. Plenty of people jumped the fence but by now they are getting a bit flustered!. Why can't we just have a nice little F5 like camera with that kind of auto focus and really nice latitude in exposure and resolution? How come Hassy bursts out 2 years too late with their H1 (yes, I know it is "digital ready" but with the resolution all you guys are giving us who needs to lug around a Bazooka) and is not all that sqeemish about setting a sky high price? Look at canon , the initial annocements were that it is going to cost $8000. They sure were feeling confident! But in truth with all the lay out Pro's had to put out within the past 3 year's for Computer's camera's and related sotware, i think we were looking for a breather camera (meaning let us have something that we can use for 2-3 year's without the cost dire need to reinvest.) Believe me i am not trying to knock your product or kodak's efforts it's just that this could have been a bit more promising

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i
picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted).

We had a bunch of cameras (and cards at the show..)
BOTH of the cameras hanging off of my shoulders, have/had cards in
them..
(I was the big, fat guy with the beard, in the black sports coat,
with the two 14n cameras hanging on him.. Near the other 10 Kodak
reps, with 14n cameras attached to their arms..)
What is your question/issue with cards?

The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the N80.

The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also
shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise
here is...

By the way i spoke to one of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about
the use of this N80's autofocus and he did not dey my complaints.

he just replied that they have to cut corners in order to keep the price > down somewhere and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it > might be inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon
when it comes to resolution and exposure.

???????
I'm assuming that you talked to me.... (or one of the several other
competent Kodak folk at the stand.....)
When you build a camera (or a car, or anything else) you can make
trade offs..
In the case of the 14n, we put our effort, investment, etc. into
the sensor, electronics, image quality... etc... and did NOT invest
in the highest frame rate, flash sync. etc..

The result is a camera that yields the HIGHEST RESOLUTION and
SHARPEST IMAGES of any digital SLR on the market..

If you 8FPS, then this is not the camera for you...
If you need HIGH RESOLUTION and GREAT IMAGE QUALITY, then this is
the best option...

-Jay

--
Jay Kelbley
-Eastman Kodak Company
[email protected]

--
Erika Lemberger

 

[Erika]

I reread my thread and besides all the spelling mistakes it's probably prudent to correct one line. The line about Nikon giving us a knockout D1 (which was a first in price/quality) to be followed immediatly by Canon's efforts (not camera like I wrote). But I guess everyone more or less get's the gist of what i am saying.

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i
picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted).

We had a bunch of cameras (and cards at the show..)
BOTH of the cameras hanging off of my shoulders, have/had cards in
them..
(I was the big, fat guy with the beard, in the black sports coat,
with the two 14n cameras hanging on him.. Near the other 10 Kodak
reps, with 14n cameras attached to their arms..)
What is your question/issue with cards?

The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the N80.

The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also
shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise
here is...

By the way i spoke to one of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about
the use of this N80's autofocus and he did not dey my complaints.

he just replied that they have to cut corners in order to keep the price > down somewhere and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it > might be inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon
when it comes to resolution and exposure.

???????
I'm assuming that you talked to me.... (or one of the several other
competent Kodak folk at the stand.....)
When you build a camera (or a car, or anything else) you can make
trade offs..
In the case of the 14n, we put our effort, investment, etc. into
the sensor, electronics, image quality... etc... and did NOT invest
in the highest frame rate, flash sync. etc..

The result is a camera that yields the HIGHEST RESOLUTION and
SHARPEST IMAGES of any digital SLR on the market..

If you 8FPS, then this is not the camera for you...
If you need HIGH RESOLUTION and GREAT IMAGE QUALITY, then this is
the best option...

-Jay

--
Jay Kelbley
-Eastman Kodak Company
[email protected]

--
Erika Lemberger

--
Erika Lemberger

 

[Erika]

Jay not everything is in the number's. Wait till Phil and other independents test both camera's and we will all be able to see real world results. You know that the number's are not the deciding factor it's the end results of the "organic whole". You can have a 3 million pixel camera and a 5 million and somehow the 3 just give's you better real world results. It's the "whole equaling the sum of it's parts". If i have the time (and strength) I just might drag myself back to the show tomorrow. Wish you all lots of success!

 

[ajs2107922]

Well I guess it's never good to take your preduces along with you when tring to be subjective. Go looking for a problem and you will find it.

The real question is why no samples have be released. I would hope that if it being released in Dec. That there should be a number of Pro's testing it?

The price change has taken the edge off the camera, I guess thats the ONLY way Kodak could upstage Canon at the Photokina show i.e. Cheap tricks.

Hope the camera is very good. Which I for one will not be ordering unless the reviews are very good. I would suggest the same to all other expectant users.
Alex

 

[Erika]

That's precisely why I mentioned all the brands of camera's that I owned in the past. Because i wanted to point out that i give/gave all Camera companies equal opportunity to prove themselves. I am not married to any of them. I just happen to know Nikoin well enough to have bells go off in my head when I am told the body of the 14n is based on the N80. Since i also read that many of the components were Kodak's I was HOPING that maybe they used someone else's autofocus when I walked into the hall yesterday. But the minute I put the camera to the eye I saw it was not the case. So I don't think I was overely biased.

The real question is why no samples have be released. I would hope
that if it being released in Dec. That there should be a number of
Pro's testing it?

The price change has taken the edge off the camera, I guess thats
the ONLY way Kodak could upstage Canon at the Photokina show i.e.
Cheap tricks.

Hope the camera is very good. Which I for one will not be ordering
unless the reviews are very good. I would suggest the same to all
other expectant users.
Alex

--
Erika Lemberger

 

[Paul F Caldwell]

Jay, you wrote:

"The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise here is..."

I didn't think that the N80 and F100 had the same auto focus systems, that instead the F100 had the CAm 1300 and the N80 the Cam 900 or something like that. Many people have written to this issue. I don't know enough about the insides of the N80 to know. HOwever after using the S2 now for 4 months, I do know that when I don't use a AFS lens, its quite slow and loud, the AF motor. Just may be my particular body.

Comment,

If the Canon rep was printing inside the show, was he or she taking image right there in the show then printing them? If so, I can tell you that a 6mp or ever 4 mp camera would do. I don't feel thats a very good resolution test. The test for the 14n IMO is outdoors, in my turf, where I can attempt to focus on as many small details as I can then print it.

The 14n as I recall has no AA filter, the Canon does and in fact so far from what I have seen, produces a rather soft image before sharpening just like the D60. I have still high hopes that the 14n will have very sharp images right off the chip as no AA filter, thus blurring has been introduced.

PS Jay, I should be no1 on the list at National Graphics Supply. Sure hope these rumors on the higher pricing aren't true.
Paul Caldwell
[email protected]

 

[George Richardson]

Jay i didn't speak to you I spoke to another tall heavy set man. I
was handed a camera sans card and the issue is that I like to see
the images 9however a poor judge of anything that may be) on any
digital camera while "I" am taking the picture's. Those 2 picture's
on the wall could have been taken with my D1x theyt were not breath
taking. Look at the picture's at the Canon stand. Look at the
picture's Monte took on the fly! Why couldn't you demo your camera
like that? I own a D1x and i once owned the Canon (as well as
Contax and Minolta, Rollei, Olympus systems) All the camera's i
owned were top of the line models. I am very unbiased towards
companies. But i am very fickle and terribly choosy when it comes
to camera's. All I have today is the Nikon's (as far as 35mm is
concerned and digital). I know Nikon VERY well. I HATED the Auto
focus on the N80. Yes I know there has to be some trade-offs bec.
of price consideration but i also know as a working pro who works
under the stress and fast paced nature of event photography (not
sports, by the way) that Auto focus does count and it does so very
much!!!I have sold plenty of camera's i purchased precisely bec. of
that issue. For the most part i use my camera's on Manual so it
exposure in camera isn't a first critera. Listen Jay I appreciate
and actually cherish the fact that you give us all so much
attention here and that you care to inform us and stand behind your
product, but please give me a little leaway here. i am not gripiing
about weather proofing of a built in flash's strength. I got the
feeling at the show today after talking to allot of Brooklyn
Wedding Port. photographer's that people left feeling more confused
then elated at the current state of digital affairs. it's almost
like we are all standing at a cross road! Not only do we have to
dish out lots of money every year for new pro camera's but we are
not even sure who to pledge alligence too!!!! Nikon give's us a
knockout firs the D1, then camera goes an inch further. Plenty of
people jumped the fence but by now they are getting a bit
flustered!. Why can't we just have a nice little F5 like camera
with that kind of auto focus and really nice latitude in exposure
and resolution? How come Hassy bursts out 2 years too late with
their H1 (yes, I know it is "digital ready" but with the resolution
all you guys are giving us who needs to lug around a Bazooka) and
is not all that sqeemish about setting a sky high price? Look at
canon , the initial annocements were that it is going to cost
$8000. They sure were feeling confident! But in truth with all the
lay out Pro's had to put out within the past 3 year's for
Computer's camera's and related sotware, i think we were looking
for a breather camera (meaning let us have something that we can
use for 2-3 year's without the cost dire need to reinvest.) Believe
me i am not trying to knock your product or kodak's efforts it's
just that this could have been a bit more promising

---------------

Excelent letter Erika

As regards the speed of the autofocus,it dependa on the lenses.
Canon Ultrasonic and AF-S make all the difference.

But I agree with what you say.

If I bought the Kodak n14 it would be my 4th digital camera.
so it better not cost more than $3500.

Regards

George R

http://www.pbase.com/dickhead/tabloidgirls

--------------

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i
picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted).

We had a bunch of cameras (and cards at the show..)
BOTH of the cameras hanging off of my shoulders, have/had cards in
them..
(I was the big, fat guy with the beard, in the black sports coat,
with the two 14n cameras hanging on him.. Near the other 10 Kodak
reps, with 14n cameras attached to their arms..)
What is your question/issue with cards?

The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the N80.

The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also
shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise
here is...

By the way i spoke to one of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about
the use of this N80's autofocus and he did not dey my complaints.

he just replied that they have to cut corners in order to keep the price > down somewhere and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it > might be inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon
when it comes to resolution and exposure.

???????
I'm assuming that you talked to me.... (or one of the several other
competent Kodak folk at the stand.....)
When you build a camera (or a car, or anything else) you can make
trade offs..
In the case of the 14n, we put our effort, investment, etc. into
the sensor, electronics, image quality... etc... and did NOT invest
in the highest frame rate, flash sync. etc..

The result is a camera that yields the HIGHEST RESOLUTION and
SHARPEST IMAGES of any digital SLR on the market..

If you 8FPS, then this is not the camera for you...
If you need HIGH RESOLUTION and GREAT IMAGE QUALITY, then this is
the best option...

-Jay

--
Jay Kelbley
-Eastman Kodak Company
[email protected]

--
Erika Lemberger

 

[Filipe]

Jay, you wrote:

"The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also
shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise
here is..."

I didn't think that the N80 and F100 had the same auto focus
systems, that instead the F100 had the CAm 1300 and the N80 the Cam
900 or something like that. Many people have written to this
issue. I don't know enough about the insides of the N80 to know.
HOwever after using the S2 now for 4 months, I do know that when I
don't use a AFS lens, its quite slow and loud, the AF motor. Just
may be my particular body.

Note that D100 is not the same as F100. Unlike the F100, the D100 does use use the cam900.

 

[Paul F Caldwell]

Thanks Filipe, I wasn't paying attention and read that comment from Jay as the F100 went he did write D100.

Paul

Jay, you wrote:

"The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also
shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise
here is..."

I didn't think that the N80 and F100 had the same auto focus
systems, that instead the F100 had the CAm 1300 and the N80 the Cam
900 or something like that. Many people have written to this
issue. I don't know enough about the insides of the N80 to know.
HOwever after using the S2 now for 4 months, I do know that when I
don't use a AFS lens, its quite slow and loud, the AF motor. Just
may be my particular body.

Note that D100 is not the same as F100. Unlike the F100, the D100
does use use the cam900.

 

[ajs2]

When Nikon introduced the F/N80 the hype machine went into gear. They told us the F/N80 had parts from the F100 & F5. We now know thats not true. The are down tuned versions of those cameras not even common compenents. So it's easy to get confused.
Alex

Paul

Jay, you wrote:

"The autofocus system (and metering system) in the 14n is also
shared with the D100 and F/N80.... I'm not sure what the surprise
here is..."

I didn't think that the N80 and F100 had the same auto focus
systems, that instead the F100 had the CAm 1300 and the N80 the Cam
900 or something like that. Many people have written to this
issue. I don't know enough about the insides of the N80 to know.
HOwever after using the S2 now for 4 months, I do know that when I
don't use a AFS lens, its quite slow and loud, the AF motor. Just
may be my particular body.

Note that D100 is not the same as F100. Unlike the F100, the D100
does use use the cam900.

--

 

[b52 s]

Just returned fron the NY show after handling the Kodak, Contax, and the D1s. The Kodak handles and feels very familiar like my D100. The unit I held had problems focusing with a Tamron 18-??, but worked fine with a Nikon lens that the rep swapped in. The Kodak is definitely a cousin of the D100 in terms of weight and size. Not so with the Contax -- its a great looking unit but alas, a liitle too late to be in the running. The Contax just did not feel confortable like the others.

The D1s looks like a champ -- the booth was mobbed and I saw a S9000 print of a portrait taken right there that blew my socks off.

Will I get a Kodak? No -- not for the 2x I paid for the D100. I'll probably wait and see if Nikon is going to match the D1s. I can't afford to dump all my Nikon glass and get Canon glass.

b52 s

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i
picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted).
The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the
N80. The build is like the F100 but maybe not as refined. The 2
blow ups really didn't do anything for me. Remember I am a loyal
Nikon user. i went to the Canon stand and saw Monte Zuker giving a
live demo with the D1s . The prints were being printed on Canon
Bubble jets as he worked. They were great 11 x 14 prints. Sharp and
really nice. The camera is really well built and out does the Kodak
in all respects that I could "see'. Like builld, auto focus , Lay
out etc. It is also more esthetically pleasing. Interestingly
enough Canon kept denying that there is a set price and wouldn't
even give out an estimate on the price . They just told me that
they know it will have to be competitive. By the way i spoke to one
of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about the use of this N80's
autofocus and he did not dey my complaints. he just replied that
they have to cut corners in order to keep the price down somewhere
and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it might be
inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon when
it comes to resolution and exposure. We need someone like Phil to
test it out bec. the prints i saw wouldn't impress anyone.
--
Erika Lemberger

 

[BJN]

If you invest in AF-S lenses, the N80 autofocus will perform very closely with the higher end bodies. It does only have one cross type sensor, but that's really not much of a limitation until you get into very low contrast situations. The AF drive motor is weaker than that used on the D1 series. For that reason, I don't use my 80-400 VR with my N80. With other lenses (even short non AF-S zooms) the AF on the N80 performs very well.

There are so many variables to go into making an impressive print, I wouldn't want to judge a camera based on the skill of image choice, sweetening, output device and settings. I think it's silly to walk into a tradeshow booth, handle a camera, look at a couple of display images and try to draw any conclusions. I'll wait for reviewers like Phil to form some thoughtful opinions based on actual use and detailed study of image files. These "drive by" impressions by booth visitors impress me not.

--
BJN

 

[Peter Gregg]

Jay i didn't speak to you I spoke to another tall heavy set man. I
was handed a camera sans card and the issue is that I like to see
the images 9however a poor judge of anything that may be) on any
digital camera while "I" am taking the picture's. Those 2 picture's
on the wall could have been taken with my D1x theyt were not breath
taking. Look at the picture's at the Canon stand. Look at the
picture's Monte took on the fly! Why couldn't you demo your camera
like that? I own a D1x and i once owned the Canon (as well as
Contax and Minolta, Rollei, Olympus systems) All the camera's i
owned were top of the line models. I am very unbiased towards
companies. But i am very fickle and terribly choosy when it comes
to camera's. All I have today is the Nikon's (as far as 35mm is
concerned and digital). I know Nikon VERY well. I HATED the Auto
focus on the N80. Yes I know there has to be some trade-offs bec.
of price consideration but i also know as a working pro who works
under the stress and fast paced nature of event photography (not
sports, by the way) that Auto focus does count and it does so very
much!!!I have sold plenty of camera's i purchased precisely bec. of
that issue. For the most part i use my camera's on Manual so it
exposure in camera isn't a first critera. Listen Jay I appreciate
and actually cherish the fact that you give us all so much
attention here and that you care to inform us and stand behind your
product, but please give me a little leaway here. i am not gripiing
about weather proofing of a built in flash's strength. I got the
feeling at the show today after talking to allot of Brooklyn
Wedding Port. photographer's that people left feeling more confused
then elated at the current state of digital affairs. it's almost
like we are all standing at a cross road! Not only do we have to
dish out lots of money every year for new pro camera's but we are
not even sure who to pledge alligence too!!!! Nikon give's us a
knockout firs the D1, then camera goes an inch further. Plenty of
people jumped the fence but by now they are getting a bit
flustered!. Why can't we just have a nice little F5 like camera
with that kind of auto focus and really nice latitude in exposure
and resolution? How come Hassy bursts out 2 years too late with
their H1 (yes, I know it is "digital ready" but with the resolution
all you guys are giving us who needs to lug around a Bazooka) and
is not all that sqeemish about setting a sky high price? Look at
canon , the initial annocements were that it is going to cost
$8000. They sure were feeling confident! But in truth with all the
lay out Pro's had to put out within the past 3 year's for
Computer's camera's and related sotware, i think we were looking
for a breather camera (meaning let us have something that we can
use for 2-3 year's without the cost dire need to reinvest.) Believe
me i am not trying to knock your product or kodak's efforts it's
just that this could have been a bit more promising

 

[Ken Phillips]

Will I get a Kodak? No -- not for the 2x I paid for the D100. I'll
probably wait and see if Nikon is going to match the D1s. I can't
afford to dump all my Nikon glass and get Canon glass.

b52 s

I was at the show in Ny and went straight for the Kodak stand. i
picked up the camera and aimed away (there was no card inserted).
The autofocus was as bad as i knew it had to be if based on the
N80. The build is like the F100 but maybe not as refined. The 2
blow ups really didn't do anything for me. Remember I am a loyal
Nikon user. i went to the Canon stand and saw Monte Zuker giving a
live demo with the D1s . The prints were being printed on Canon
Bubble jets as he worked. They were great 11 x 14 prints. Sharp and
really nice. The camera is really well built and out does the Kodak
in all respects that I could "see'. Like builld, auto focus , Lay
out etc. It is also more esthetically pleasing. Interestingly
enough Canon kept denying that there is a set price and wouldn't
even give out an estimate on the price . They just told me that
they know it will have to be competitive. By the way i spoke to one
of the head guys at Kodak. i complained about the use of this N80's
autofocus and he did not dey my complaints. he just replied that
they have to cut corners in order to keep the price down somewhere
and this keeps it $2000 less. He said that whereas it might be
inferior to the Canon in that respect it blows away the canon when
it comes to resolution and exposure. We need someone like Phil to
test it out bec. the prints i saw wouldn't impress anyone.
--
Erika Lemberger

--

No 1D, very few lenses, no camera bag or teleconverters thanks to some thief. Also, NO Canon 1200mm f/5.6.

 

[Z (is real)]

There are so many variables to go into making an impressive print,
I wouldn't want to judge a camera based on the skill of image
choice, sweetening, output device and settings. I think it's silly
to walk into a tradeshow booth, handle a camera, look at a couple
of display images and try to draw any conclusions.

One would expect Kodak to produce the best display prints they could... If not, then yeah, she has a point in dissing the prints.

-Z-

 

[bill sullivan]

"the prints i saw wouldn't impress anyone"

I live in NYC and went to the Expo today for the second time. I looked at nearly every picture there printed out - both hand outs and blow-ups by all of the differant makers both analog and digital - twice. I looked at small, medium and large format . And the 2 samples I saw from Kodak blew all the digital away - by a mile - I thought they were easily better han any of the 1Ds samples. I am not sure Erika if you actually went behind the booth , went up close and actually examined the prints - there were 2 - both lambda prints printed a little over 20X30". The hair had no aliasing and the image was nice and sharp without any hint of sharpening - in vivid contrast to similarly printed large S2 images. It is a medium format capable camera.

If you want that level of image quality it is the one - if you want a movie camera get the Canon.

 

[Z (is real)]

If you want that level of image quality it is the one - if you want
a movie camera get the Canon.

Huh?

-Z-

 

[Ger Bee]