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hey there!




new to the forums n'all, tried the search-function.. so please bear with me!




first off, i dont know too much about photography, but always wanted a DSLR. i know the D7 isnt a particular beginners-camera, but, i like it.




i have a bit of experience with sport-videos where i use a sony cx-110 with multiple fisheyes for my skydiving and other jumping-activities.




just not sure about what lens-kit to buy with the 7D. i dont want to take it into freefall just yet, rather learn the camera and a bit more about photography in general. so i'm thinking "decent" lens-kit to begin before i drop another 1-2k$ for a fisheye of the L-series.




i'm sort of interested in the 40mm STM (lightweight, small build), the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or the EF-S 18-135mm IS, the last one giving me the most options to start out with and is good in poor light-conditions, or so i think.




any tips, hints, advice you got for some lost noob!?
 
CrazySwiss wrote:

hey there!

new to the forums n'all, tried the search-function.. so please bear with me!

first off, i dont know too much about photography, but always wanted a DSLR. i know the D7 isnt a particular beginners-camera, but, i like it.

i have a bit of experience with sport-videos where i use a sony cx-110 with multiple fisheyes for my skydiving and other jumping-activities.

just not sure about what lens-kit to buy with the 7D. i dont want to take it into freefall just yet, rather learn the camera and a bit more about photography in general. so i'm thinking "decent" lens-kit to begin before i drop another 1-2k$ for a fisheye of the L-series.

i'm sort of interested in the 40mm STM (lightweight, small build), the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or the EF-S 18-135mm IS, the last one giving me the most options to start out with and is good in poor light-conditions, or so i think.

any tips, hints, advice you got for some lost noob!?
Being a CrazySwiss noob (welcome :) ) lemme ask you a question.

What are you shooting and do you have any understanding of the relation between iso, shutterspeed and aperture?
 
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Limburger wrote:
CrazySwiss wrote:

hey there!

new to the forums n'all, tried the search-function.. so please bear with me!

first off, i dont know too much about photography, but always wanted a DSLR. i know the D7 isnt a particular beginners-camera, but, i like it.

i have a bit of experience with sport-videos where i use a sony cx-110 with multiple fisheyes for my skydiving and other jumping-activities.

just not sure about what lens-kit to buy with the 7D. i dont want to take it into freefall just yet, rather learn the camera and a bit more about photography in general. so i'm thinking "decent" lens-kit to begin before i drop another 1-2k$ for a fisheye of the L-series.

i'm sort of interested in the 40mm STM (lightweight, small build), the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or the EF-S 18-135mm IS, the last one giving me the most options to start out with and is good in poor light-conditions, or so i think.

any tips, hints, advice you got for some lost noob!?
Being a CrazySwiss noob (welcome :) ) lemme ask you a question.

What are you shooting and do you have any understanding of the relation between iso, shutterspeed and aperture?
 
oh, and for now, i'm thinking landscape, still photography, portraits..
 
CrazySwiss wrote:

oh, and for now, i'm thinking landscape, still photography, portraits..
With your current knowledge, yes :)

You need to have serious effort for 7D (or any dslr) otherwise you might be better of with a big sensor point and shoot.
 
Limburger wrote:
CrazySwiss wrote:

oh, and for now, i'm thinking landscape, still photography, portraits..
With your current knowledge, yes :)

You need to have serious effort for 7D (or any dslr) otherwise you might be better of with a big sensor point and shoot.
 
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I suggest spending the least amount of money on a lens, until you know what you're doing and what you actually need. If you know that you will need the fisheye, then that's what you should buy, and learn how to use it along with a wide-angle zoom lens.
 
CrazySwiss wrote:
Limburger wrote:
CrazySwiss wrote:

hey there!

new to the forums n'all, tried the search-function.. so please bear with me!

first off, i dont know too much about photography, but always wanted a DSLR. i know the D7 isnt a particular beginners-camera, but, i like it.

i have a bit of experience with sport-videos where i use a sony cx-110 with multiple fisheyes for my skydiving and other jumping-activities.

just not sure about what lens-kit to buy with the 7D. i dont want to take it into freefall just yet, rather learn the camera and a bit more about photography in general. so i'm thinking "decent" lens-kit to begin before i drop another 1-2k$ for a fisheye of the L-series.

i'm sort of interested in the 40mm STM (lightweight, small build), the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or the EF-S 18-135mm IS, the last one giving me the most options to start out with and is good in poor light-conditions, or so i think.

any tips, hints, advice you got for some lost noob!?
Being a CrazySwiss noob (welcome :) ) lemme ask you a question.

What are you shooting and do you have any understanding of the relation between iso, shutterspeed and aperture?
 
Keith Z Leonard wrote:
CrazySwiss wrote:
Limburger wrote:
CrazySwiss wrote:

hey there!

new to the forums n'all, tried the search-function.. so please bear with me!

first off, i dont know too much about photography, but always wanted a DSLR. i know the D7 isnt a particular beginners-camera, but, i like it.

i have a bit of experience with sport-videos where i use a sony cx-110 with multiple fisheyes for my skydiving and other jumping-activities.

just not sure about what lens-kit to buy with the 7D. i dont want to take it into freefall just yet, rather learn the camera and a bit more about photography in general. so i'm thinking "decent" lens-kit to begin before i drop another 1-2k$ for a fisheye of the L-series.

i'm sort of interested in the 40mm STM (lightweight, small build), the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or the EF-S 18-135mm IS, the last one giving me the most options to start out with and is good in poor light-conditions, or so i think.

any tips, hints, advice you got for some lost noob!?
Being a CrazySwiss noob (welcome :) ) lemme ask you a question.

What are you shooting and do you have any understanding of the relation between iso, shutterspeed and aperture?
 
I have the 7D as well, and also the lenses you've asked about.

The 40mm is nice but it's sort of a "novelty". The image quality is very good, but no better than some of my other lenses.

I also have the 15-85 and its a great general purpose zoom. It's my go-to lens if I'm outdoors or in good indoor lighting and don't want to haul a bag of gear.

The 18-135, while a good lens with good range is nowhere near as good as the 15-85 and while there is a bit more reach, the loss of 3mm on the wide end is very noticeable.

If I were in your shoes, and wanted to invest in good basic lenses, keep it simple and keep it to two lenses, I would buy the 15-85 and a faster prime like a 28 f/1.8 (I have that one as well). You can get both for around $900 used and for around $1200 new.

B&H photo has the ever-popular Sigma 30mm f/1.4 on sale right now for $289.

I hope this helps.
 
GregoryAllan wrote:

I have the 7D as well, and also the lenses you've asked about.

The 40mm is nice but it's sort of a "novelty". The image quality is very good, but no better than some of my other lenses.

I also have the 15-85 and its a great general purpose zoom. It's my go-to lens if I'm outdoors or in good indoor lighting and don't want to haul a bag of gear.

The 18-135, while a good lens with good range is nowhere near as good as the 15-85 and while there is a bit more reach, the loss of 3mm on the wide end is very noticeable.

If I were in your shoes, and wanted to invest in good basic lenses, keep it simple and keep it to two lenses, I would buy the 15-85 and a faster prime like a 28 f/1.8 (I have that one as well). You can get both for around $900 used and for around $1200 new.

B&H photo has the ever-popular Sigma 30mm f/1.4 on sale right now for $289.

I hope this helps.
 
the more i dive into it, the more confused i get..

there's about three versions in more or less the same range: the EF-S 15-85mm 3.5-5.6 IS which is the most expensive, then comes the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM which is notably cheaper, then the 18-55mm IS which is the cheapest.

the price-difference is about 500$ - so it's quite a leap; can someone enlighten me on those lenses?

i dont mind spending the extra cash, and it probably wont be that much noticeable for an amateur. but i do like having fancy stuff..
 
CrazySwiss wrote:

the more i dive into it, the more confused i get..

there's about three versions in more or less the same range: the EF-S 15-85mm 3.5-5.6 IS which is the most expensive, then comes the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM which is notably cheaper, then the 18-55mm IS which is the cheapest.

the price-difference is about 500$ - so it's quite a leap; can someone enlighten me on those lenses?

i dont mind spending the extra cash, and it probably wont be that much noticeable for an amateur. but i do like having fancy stuff..
The Canon 15-85mm lens is a step up from the older 17-85mm model. It is more expensive, wider, considered to be sharper and with slightly less distortion. The 18-55mm is less so in all areas and not quite as useful as a stand alone lens. It is considerable less expensive and is often sold as part of a starters kit with Canon APS-C cameras. I would go high end or low end but not choose the 17-85mm anymore although I enjoyed mine until it met an untimely end in the hands of a three year old.
 

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