Capture One RAW to OOC Jpeg (hopefully LR soon) comparisons

[sgoldswo]

I put together a blog post to take some of the comparisons I did the other day here (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50664200) and record them together with some conclusions. At the minute it's just OOC jpeg to C1, but I'll add LR when time allows. I'll also add some further examples as time allows.

http://wp.me/p2wMAg-ly

 

[sgoldswo]

Which are quite good (the colour bleeding is very minor) except for the DPR test scene...

 

[djpearlman]

nice job, thanks. I hope adobe fixes act, because i love the interface, but for now c1 is clearly better. takes a fairly large print to see the difference of course.

 

[sgoldswo]

djpearlman wrote:

nice job, thanks. I hope adobe fixes act, because i love the interface, but for now c1 is clearly better. takes a fairly large print to see the difference of course.

Cheers! Whether you notice the issues in LR really depends on the scene - I almost never notice the issues (except for a bit of red colour bleeding) when I shoot in the city, but as soon as I take photos in the countryside it becomes much starker. That said, there is something very aesthetically pleasing about the OOC jpegs that generally isn't there in the LR conversions, but is replicated in capture one.

 

[JimG121563]

I have a question for you regarding conversions (not trying to argue just asking):

DPR has it's reference image for testing cameras and when they did the conversion of that image in C1 for their review of C1 and X-Trans, the really fine detail of the engraved woman's face at the end of the article was full of a jagged pattern (moire artifacts?). Was that due to an issue with processing X-Trans RAW files or was it due to user error with the settings?

If it is just the way it is, that begs the question, how often can that happen since landscape work is full of minute details?

I'm interested in the camera and primarily prefer working with RAW images so I am concerned when there is so much controversy over RAW conversions.

Jim

 

[sgoldswo]

JimG wrote:

I have a question for you regarding conversions (not trying to argue just asking):

DPR has it's reference image for testing cameras and when they did the conversion of that image in C1 for their review of C1 and X-Trans, the really fine detail of the engraved woman's face at the end of the article was full of a jagged pattern (moire artifacts?). Was that due to an issue with processing X-Trans RAW files or was it due to user error with the settings?

If it is just the way it is, that begs the question, how often can that happen since landscape work is full of minute details?

I'm interested in the camera and primarily prefer working with RAW images so I am concerned when there is so much controversy over RAW conversions.

Jim

Jim,

Absolutely agree that on the default settings you saw moire on the test scene. The engraving from a banknote is designed to pick up moire. Having said that I have yet to find it in the wild with the X-Pro1 at all, whereas I have found Moire a problem with both the X100 and Olympus E-M5 (which show better responses in the test scene, but have thin AA filters so are prone to moire). I guess that's why not every test is perfect. You won't have any moire issues with landscape photography, it's more of a problem for fashion, architecture and wedding photographers.

That said, I found I could remove the moire in post by using a mask in capture 1. However, I didn't really see the point in posting a jpeg of a test scene in those circumstances! However, I know enough now that I'm not concerned at all about RAW processing in capture one.

As to the controversy, I wouldn't worry a bit. There is absolutely a grain of truth behind the issues with Lightroom RAW conversions, but people who either have an axe to grind or are employed professionally to sow dissent and such forth will post endlessly about this and that issue on forums like this. I've seen people target Sony, Panasonic, and Olympus cameras in additon to Fujifilm. A lot of the time it's total bunk, but such individuals cause controversy to frighten people to X brand or another.

Cheers,

Simon

 

[sgoldswo]

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