How serious is the slow focus of X-Pro1 affecting purchase decision?

I hated having to modify my lenses with my 5d2 to get accurate focusing with micro adjusting and even when it was right, it was still a challenge shooting wide open.

For some reason, the xp1 and 35mm at 1.4 is so damn accurate. I just got the 18mm last night and am finding it to be just as accurate and sharp.

I'll never go back to large cameras and humongous glass again.

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Yep, we're in agreement. I also think 18mm isn't that wide and that my 10-22 isn't wide enough. There's a sigma 8-16 that I'm dying to try. I've used 15 and 12mm on film and love that uwa view. I'll have the xpro by the time the 14mm comes out and will be all over that. If you've ever seen the voigtlander 15 and 12mm lenses, you'll see how freakin tiny they can get. Slow though, at 4.5 and 5.6 respectively. I'll probably skip the 18mm in preparation for the 144 and I like the 50mm for a city/street type lens so will start with that.

You're also probably right about the size of something longer. The canon 85/1.8 is very reasonably sized though (as far as Canon lenses go). I haven't seen the fuji 60 in real life yet, only the 35 and 18. Both are a nice portable size and feel light (in a good way). I hope the rest follow suit. I'm excited to get the xpro before my next big trip and can't wait to travel with it.
I think we're not far off from each other. I much prefer wide, and use the 18 at the expense of the 35 IQ, and this is still not wide enough for me (coming from the 12, the 18 feels limiting, as funny as that sounds). If they'd gotten the 18 as right as they did the 35, I would get rid of that one. But design of UWA's is much more constrained than say a 35 or 50, much more to take into account and to "get right", so I understand.

I am, too, pro smaller size/big aperture. But I find the 60, as is, pushing it as far as being able to claim "compact" size with a straight face. And 85 - with f/1.8 say - is going to be bigger. A zoom, at f/4, might be bigger than say an 85, but maybe not. The mounts are diff, etc. My point being, anything longer than the 60 will likely be as big or bigger than the 60. So if your move is toward smallness, desiring an 85 at and even bigger aperture will prob not get you there. The tradeoff is going to be size for FL, no matter how you look at it. Still, that 85 or that 70-200 will very likely be MUCH smaller than these zooms we've been mentioning. That 12-24 was relatively enormous and was "only" f/4. The Tamron 70-300 (about the same size as the 70-200 i believe) was again even more enormous. If they keep the size to even twice as long as the 60, I'd be satisfied they did what they could.

I look at it as squeezing the most versatility out of the system as a whole. When I want just compactness, the 18 does perfectly well. I rather like it, a lot. The 35 is not far off. Not quite as pocketable but for pure IQ, man, can't beat it. Still very portable. When I absolutely must have reach - say on vacay, sports etc - then I'll have the option of the (likely larger) UWA + Tele-Zoom. It's good to have options!
It's funny - I have the 10-22 for my 7D and love it (as well as the 70-200f4). I'm not anti-zoom at all. But I'm pro smaller size and larger aperture. It seems like a longer/faster prime is a glaring hole in the road map. It will be interesting to see how big the Fuji 70-200 turns out to be. If it's as big as the Canon, I wouldn't get it (and it's not even that big compared to Canon's other zooms). I'll be getting the fuji mostly for travel and walk around, so I want the kit to be smaller. FWIW, I'm strongly considering getting rid of most of my Canon stuff except my birding lenses, which the fuji will never be able to do adequately.

In terms of usage, personally I usually shoot on the wide end (except for birds), but it'd be nice to have a longer option than 60mm. To me that seems like an odd focal length. On my 7D I use the 85 for portraits, but that space between 85 and say 50-55, I don't seem to ever want it. I also use rangefinders (epson r-d1 and others) so I'm used to primes.
You may be right. Personally, I wouldn't use a slightly longer/faster prime. I would still likely just use it for portrait/macro work. I haven't found that FL particularly useful for anything but. I'd be more interesting in a 200+ prime with reasonable speed. I have NO problem with the 2.4 on the 60, nor it's IQ. It's at least fantastic if not better (I also think this of the 35). I'm also one of those who has no issue with a good zoom. Think Nikkor (and really, Tokina and Tamron FOR Nikon). I, personally, don't see a lot of quality diff btwn the Tokina 12-24 i used w/my D7000 and the 18 on the Fuji, other than (of course, most importantly) character. Color mostly. The 12 was sharp at 12 and beyond. It suffered about the same (maybe slightly more?) with CA in high contrast. I felt the 12-24 was extremely useful and a great lens, but it suffered in that system b/c the D7000 wasn't as good at high ISO, where the Fuji should shine. Same with the long tele-zooms. I'd find a 70-300 IS at a reasonable f-stop MUCH more useful than a middling-length 85, even at f/1.whatever. I could make up a lot of the diff w/the 35, even with cropping, but I could never make up for subjects at + - 300 (450 FF) with say, an 85 and cropping. The 70-200 Fuji has planned should be quite useful (if done well like with nikon), even if a bit shorter than i'd prefer.
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Wow, that is wide! A bit too wide for me, as it's very hard to control distortion, and not a big fan of fisheyes at this point (thanks to the meme gods for oversaturating us with them!). I tried the 11-16 and it was lovely as well. I think I could live with a GOOD 12, but if they manage to make something relatively flat at a wider FL, id be very interested. Esp if they could get down to f/2.something. I bet the 14 will be quite lovely and prob a very nice walk around length for me.

I have used the 15 CV II on both film (Minolta CLE) and digi (XP1 + Kipon adapter) and I preferred it much more on film. I generally wasn't that impressed though. I expected a more unique color characteristic and better edge distortion/CA. On the XP1, at least with the Kipon, it was not very good at all. Esp at infinity and far subjects. Up close, it could be pretty sharp, bur CA and flaring were awful with the XP1, and edge sharpness was inconsistent-to-bad. All of this, IMO. The consensus is that it had the same UWA issues on the XP1 that similar lenses do on the NEX-7, and thus probably sensor/mount related and not easily or impossible to correct in software. Again, that my have been the adapter, but those issues are with the NEX-7 regardless of adapter, so i presume the same will be with the XP1. Some who've used longer FL's with the Kipon have had much much better results. But they are lovely and tiny, and a pleasure to use. Just like with those Pentax Limited lenses.

Starting with the 35 is good. It just performs so well, and is fairly versatile. The 18 really is great, but I understand about it not being the right FL, and if you're just gonna get the 14 anyway, why bother. If the 85 is as good (or better) than the 60, i'd have gotten it no question. As fantastic as the 60 is for portrait/macro, I think you'd do well to skip it and wait for a longer FL.
Yep, we're in agreement. I also think 18mm isn't that wide and that my 10-22 isn't wide enough. There's a sigma 8-16 that I'm dying to try. I've used 15 and 12mm on film and love that uwa view. I'll have the xpro by the time the 14mm comes out and will be all over that. If you've ever seen the voigtlander 15 and 12mm lenses, you'll see how freakin tiny they can get. Slow though, at 4.5 and 5.6 respectively. I'll probably skip the 18mm in preparation for the 144 and I like the 50mm for a city/street type lens so will start with that.

You're also probably right about the size of something longer. The canon 85/1.8 is very reasonably sized though (as far as Canon lenses go). I haven't seen the fuji 60 in real life yet, only the 35 and 18. Both are a nice portable size and feel light (in a good way). I hope the rest follow suit. I'm excited to get the xpro before my next big trip and can't wait to travel with it.
 
It is good to hear feedback like this. I really need to get my hands on an XP1 and take it out to one of the rock clubs around here and try shooting live music with it. I'm used to shooting these with my D700 and 50 1.4D. When the XP1 was announced, the smaller size and low noise got me thinking it might be great in that environment (the D700 is big and draws a lot of attention). Reading Arias and others got me second guessing that. There are lots of other things I'd use it for, too, but that was a big draw. And if it has trouble focusing in low light, then the ISO performance doesn't really matter, may as well get a cheaper m43 system.

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