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It is a 800x600 with 1.04X magnification.
A Sequential LCD Display is the technology used for it.



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Is this similar technology to the 1.44 mdot display used int he Olympus EVF's? Like the OMD and VF2?

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is it 800x600 x3 colors or just 800x600 spread out over the three colors?
800*600*3 = 1.44 million dot display.

So 3 dots or colors for each pixel, I think it is just marketing to have a larger number, or maybe to imply that they are in fact having a dot for each color for each pixel.

Eric
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Is this similar technology to the 1.44 mdot display used int he Olympus EVF's? Like the OMD and VF2?

Eric
No; I notice Alexramos says it is sequential technology, in which case it's like the Panasonic G and GH series EVFs, or the Sony ones before the OLED EVF (i.e. Alpha 33, 55, 35). These are the types that for some people can produce a rainbow flicker effect on items such as white superimposed lettering and numerals if you blink, move your eye quickly, or pan the camera quickly - but others may hardly notice it.

The Olympus VF2 and OM-D EVF are not sequential, using Epson's Ultimicron display instead, which is very smooth.
 
it disappoint me, camera cost like NEX 7 and has a wors VF

to be truth i think that its one of the most important things i look in a mirrorless

also the alpha A65 has same NEX 7 EVF and cost much less then NX20...
 
it disappoint me, camera cost like NEX 7 and has a wors VF

to be truth i think that its one of the most important things i look in a mirrorless

also the alpha A65 has same NEX 7 EVF and cost much less then NX20...
Other cameras cost similar to the NEX 7 and have worse EVF's. That isn't the only measure to use to compare the cameras.

Eric
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Which is the display, sequential (480k dots) or 1.44 M dots?

Thanks Helen and Alexramos, I went and looked up sequential finders and found that these are conflicting specs (i.e. where did the 1.44 M dot number come from, it shows up in the hands on, maybe just a mistake?)

As you say, sequential cycles through the pixels and flashes red/green/blue rapidly where the 1.44 M dot display would display them all at once.

I.e. it can't be both. Which one is it? DPR mentions 1.44 M dot, but the specs don't specify. It sounds like it is the sequential display?

Eric
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now I know for sure I won't be buying a NX20, even at a discounted price!!!!

That kind of display is the one that produces rainbow effect and I'm VERY subject to rainbow effect.

In the Sony A55 I was not able to use the EVF for this reason...I really, REALLY hated that EVF. Samsung could have done a better job, but I'm the one that can't use DLP projectors 'cause RE, so NX20 is definitely NOT for me.

Total disappointment...Samsung waited over 1 year to present the NX20 and now it turns that it used an aging technology for its EVF, which was one of the selling points for it. I think that the waiting was just for WiFi, which is the technology that does not interest me at all...

I'm a bit worried, since I invested on Samsung lenses (60mm, 30mm, 50-200mm and 20mm), plus Samyang 85mm with NX mount. I see no future for NX system if no OLED EVF with higher res is introduced in a higher specced camera in few months from now. My 2 cents.
 
I used the Minolta A2 with an EVF that has less resolution for years and found it quite good. I think that 1.4Mpx in the NX20 viewfinder should be fine.

One feature that the A2 has is a quick jump to 100% magnification for focusing. It is almost instantaneous. I'd be interested to know how the NX20 supports this focusing need.
 
now I know for sure I won't be buying a NX20, even at a discounted price!!!!

That kind of display is the one that produces rainbow effect and I'm VERY subject to rainbow effect.

In the Sony A55 I was not able to use the EVF for this reason...I really, REALLY hated that EVF. Samsung could have done a better job, but I'm the one that can't use DLP projectors 'cause RE, so NX20 is definitely NOT for me.

Total disappointment...Samsung waited over 1 year to present the NX20 and now it turns that it used an aging technology for its EVF, which was one of the selling points for it. I think that the waiting was just for WiFi, which is the technology that does not interest me at all...

I'm a bit worried, since I invested on Samsung lenses (60mm, 30mm, 50-200mm and 20mm), plus Samyang 85mm with NX mount. I see no future for NX system if no OLED EVF with higher res is introduced in a higher specced camera in few months from now. My 2 cents.
Here is the thing, they update cameras in 1 year or so cycles. Manufacturers trickle out technology to the consumers so they always have something for you to upgrade to. I wouldn't expect anything in 1 or 2 months. Next year? Maybe. Unless they announce a higher end camera soon.

I would have expected a better EVF as well, but will wait until I use it. Panasonic also uses these sequential EVFs in their camera that costs the same (GH2), and Sony seems to use it in a lot of cameras too. It can't be that bad.

If you really have to have a viewfinder now and it really can't be sequential, it is clearly the wrong system. I always buy based on what a system currently offers and not what they might offer.

Eric

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beautiful. - John Constable (quote)

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A Sequential LCD Display is the technology used for it.
If it is not a confidential source, would you mind telling us where you got that information? (or a link perhaps.)
Agreed, I have seen nothing firm from Samsung (press releases don't say anything). I wouldn't be surprised since it seems most Sony and Panasonic cameras seem to use that sequential technology (besides the A65, A77, and NEX 7 and maybe a few others). I notice they don't clearly specify, and when they do that it means it is probably the lesser spec'ed version, but it would be nice if they said straight up what it is (unless it isn't finalized yet, but it seems late to be changing that).

Eric
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Hmm well Im too fussy about EVf...however!

I am slightly dissappointed, purely for the fact that it is rumoured that they delayed the release of the NX20 becuase of the EVf once they saw Sony's OLED. IF and only IF that is true, then I would have expected them to perhaps come up with more.

But ahh well can't have it all.
 
I think I started that rumour. I simply mentioned on this forum the need for an evf upgrade to compete with Sony. I put it forward as a possible reason for the NX20 delay. Within a couple of days, the rumour sites were all stating it as a fact.
 
well just have to wait and see how good the viewfinder is before we make any judgement. on the otherhand,I'm pretty much accustomed to the AMOLED display screen. so I'm not that much worried about the viewfinder. although it is not as good as that of OVF in bigger sensor DSLRs, these are better than the smaller OVFs.
 
well just have to wait and see how good the viewfinder is before we make any judgement. on the otherhand,I'm pretty much accustomed to the AMOLED display screen. so I'm not that much worried about the viewfinder. although it is not as good as that of OVF in bigger sensor DSLRs, these are better than the smaller OVFs.
My experience to try NX20 and NEX-7 EVF.. both of them are nice and much better compare to the previous EVF..

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LOL.

Does anyone remember the old rumor that Samsung was making EVF for Sony? I said back then it was highly unlikely, given Sony specifically was calling it their own technology

http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol66/pdf/ecx331_332a.pdf

I am sure Samsung (or anyone else for that matter) .. could have just bought the EVF from Sony, given Sony sells everything they make to competitors (sensors, lcds, etc).
 
LOL.

Does anyone remember the old rumor that Samsung was making EVF for Sony? I said back then it was highly unlikely, given Sony specifically was calling it their own technology

http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol66/pdf/ecx331_332a.pdf

I am sure Samsung (or anyone else for that matter) .. could have just bought the EVF from Sony, given Sony sells everything they make to competitors (sensors, lcds, etc).
does it include general electronics? because what I'm seeing right now is that Sony is getting eaten by Samsung alive and is losing ground of it's foothold as an electronics giant. I don't see the point of Sony selling it's materials to it's potential competitor unless they wanted to be out of the business. it's more like arming your enemy. besides, this is not the first time for Samsung to create or recreate their own sensors. it's not like Sony has the only capability.

just think about it, would you think that Sony benefit more from this if they decide to sell their technology to Samsung?
 

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