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epsilon sigma taph said:
Compare it to the fashion images of women in the 50s and you'd know where l'm coming from. I'm sick of seeing tall skinny women passed off as the ideal look in this industry. Time we went back to a multifarious real world representation of women.
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My guess is that you want to see Marilyn Monroe lookalikes in the fashion industry.

Well, guess what? Marilyn Monroe was skinny. As in 22" waist skinny. As in, when her famous white movie dress went up for auction last summer, they had to use a size 2 mannequin, carve down the waist, and the zipper still would not completely close. That's how skinny she was.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/hollywood-auction-ends-myth-of-zaftig-marilyn-virginia-postrel.html

In fact, that movie dress auction from last summer completely destroys the myth that actresses were less thin back in the day. Because the auction allowed people to measure the actual sizes of movie stars at the time of their filming. And it showed that movie stars from the 1920s to the 1960s were all very skinny.

If you were to cross reference the waist sizes of the movie dresses that were auctioned off to the sizes of jeans from the Gap, you'd find that the vast majority of the movie starlets would have worn size 0 or smaller Gap jeans.
 
Benjamin Kanarek said:
These girls may be naturally like that and more power to them but the quotes 'real women/men' the way you quote it are calling naturally big people overweight. You are in fact calling bigger people fat..... the same name calling you are telling us not to do with the slimmer folks.
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Apologies if you thought I was name calling..

I wasn't I was trying to point out the double standard that it seems to be socially acceptable nowadays to call someone a skinny zombie..
But if you were to call someone fat you would be crucified!

As you have said BMI is not a reliable way to measure everybody.. But are you seriously trying to say that on average people aren't fatter than the were say 30yrs ago???
 
Turbo Hampster said:
Real women come in all shapes and sizes not just a predetermined height and body fat ratio. If you look at fashion magazines these days you'd be hard pressed to find anything sexy in there. Most of the imagery is of models looking like zombies
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Are models not real people?

As is obvious I don't really agree with people who are saying models aren't real women/men.

Surely you mean they aren't representative of what the average cross section of society look like.
Which would be a true a completely valid argument.

Just because you don't find these women attractive doesn't mean nobody else does.

I would love to see any of these models walk up to average guys on the street and see how many turn them down!

But the fact of the matter is these models are used because they sell clothes which they do very well..

Quite a few of these model for Victorias Secret.. which has been hugely successful with its use of models to sell its product

Disclaimer - This is my opinion and not meant to offend anyone. Neither do I deny your right to disagree with me!
 
I agree that people are generally fatter because of fast food. We have become lazier as a society, as machines do everything for us now. kids dont know how to walk anymore as they are driven everywhere etc.

I will still maintain that we need to be careful with the estimates though as I am sure the people who do make the estimates may use info like the BMI charts to make a determination.
 
hqphoto said:
I agree that people are generally fatter because of fast food. We have become lazier as a society, as machines do everything for us now. kids dont know how to walk anymore as they are driven everywhere etc.
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I don't think you understand how bad the fat problem is in the USA, compared to other parts of the world.

Back in 1980, when the CDC started collecting data on the problem, about 70% of the population was of normal weight, 10% were obese, and the rest (20%) were merely overweight.

In 2010, the latest CDC report shows that only 30% of the population is of normal weight, with 35% obese, and the remainder (35%) merely overweight.

In 30 years, we went from 70% of the population being normal weight to only 30% being normal weight.

Traveling overseas, you really notice the difference, right away, especially for countries that do not speak English natively. It's like turning back the clock 20 years, where at least 60% of the population is of normal weight.
 
tyhsu said:
Traveling overseas, you really notice the difference, right away, especially for countries that do not speak English natively. It's like turning back the clock 20 years, where at least 60% of the population is of normal weight.
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I would agree 100% Im an Airline pilot so travel the world ALOT!

I can see the difference when I compare the average population between say Houston & Bangkok woah!

Yes I know Asians are on average smaller than their western counterparts, but they are undoubtedly in better shape on average... Do to diet, exercise etc

Just to make it clear Im not bashing the US we have major problems in the UK now also with obesity and how much the related health problems are going to cost the National Health Service.

In fact its not just in the West.. Also in the Middle East now the local populations are having a bit of an obesity crisis, with all the problems associated with it..
 
Turbo Hampster said:
Turbo Hampster said:
Traveling overseas, you really notice the difference, right away, especially for countries that do not speak English natively. It's like turning back the clock 20 years, where at least 60% of the population is of normal weight.
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I would agree 100% Im an Airline pilot so travel the world ALOT!

I can see the difference when I compare the average population between say Houston & Bangkok woah!

Yes I know Asians are on average smaller than their western counterparts, but they are undoubtedly in better shape on average... Do to diet, exercise etc

Just to make it clear Im not bashing the US we have major problems in the UK now also with obesity and how much the related health problems are going to cost the National Health Service.

In fact its not just in the West.. Also in the Middle East now the local populations are having a bit of an obesity crisis, with all the problems associated with it.
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For Turbo Hampster:

Side question, since you are a pilot and travel: "Which country do you think has the most attractive women?"

I've often though the Czech Republic, maybe Romania, and Japan have the most attractive women personally.

Another side observation I've noticed is that some Czech/Romanian women have much deeper voices which is sort of alarming if one is not used to it compared to a USA counterpart which is often more high-pitched and shrill ( ugh! ). A slight-of-build girl with a deep voice stands out in a group conversation. We had a exchange program at a youth camp here and they were easy to spot as foreign due to their deeper voices alone. Oddly, the American women listened to them more too in their counseling exchanges. The nearby waitresses at the restaurant near the camp even noticed it and said, "You aren't from around here are you?"

It is sort of sad the USA has gone to wide-bodies now with no end in sight - or too much end in sight. Food is extremely fatty and sugar keeps going into more and more foods by the shovelfuls. There are women who do work out and jog constantly that I see, but they have more muscle definition in their legs and arms so they do not appear anorexically skinny nor have hollow cheeks. They are very rare though.

It could be cultural too. Some American Indian tribes prefer their women fatter too as I did a shoot at one tribal beauty contest once and was shocked at what came out on stage until I was made aware of it. Bigger equals more maternal or something. The bigger they were the more the Indian men hollered. They seemed to shun the thinner ones.

Oddly, the dietician in most hospitals is the most overweight person on the floor too.

I dunno...

Mack
 
Well all I can say in answer to your question Gmack

Is the more you travel the more you see there are extremely attractive women everywhere (except Scotland.... Joking)
 
Turbo Hampster said:
Well all I can say in answer to your question Gmack

Is the more you travel the more you see there are extremely attractive women everywhere (except Scotland.... Joking)
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Somehow, I don't think you are joking about Scotland.

Notice the 'mac' in my name? There's a reason we drink Johnnie Walker Scottish Whiskey --- and mighty heavily too. ;)



Mack
 
Here's something relevant to this thread l just found on Yahoo news.

Israel says no to skinny models
March 21, 2012, 11:42 am
Israel has passed legislation banning the use of underweight models.

Under new laws models working in Israel will be required to submit a current medical report stating that they are not underweight according to standards established by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

If someone has a Body Mass Index (BMI), which is calculated by dividing weight by height in metres squared, less than 18.5 they are considered malnourished by WHO standards.

The Israeli law also requires the disclosure of digital retouching in advertisements in local publications.

The new law is being touted as an example to fashion industries in other countries of how government can play a role in reducing the prevalence of eating disorders and other health issues associated with low weight among models.

“We want to break the illusion that the model we see is real,” Liad Gil-Har, assistant to law sponsor Dr. Rachel Adato, told media.

The new regulation comes days after the release of a Models Alliance survey which found that most models begin working in the industry between the impressionable ages of 13 and 16.

Alarmingly, 64 per cent of models surveyed had been asked to lose weight for work, while 68 per cent said they experienced anxiety or depression.

In 2006 Brazilian model Ana Carolina Reston, 21, died from anorexia nervosa. Reston had a BMI of just 13.4 when she died.

Critics of the legislation however argue that decisions about a model’s fitness to work should be based on health, rather than weight.

They say that the law discriminates against models who are naturally thin, like supermodel Naomi Campbell whose BMI is less than 18.5.
 
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