$800 for a point and shoot Why?

[tkbslc]

If this camera cost $2000 it is still a p&s. How long have you been a photographer? How many DSLR's have you shot with?

Can you change the optical lens, No. You are not looking through the lens like an DSLR. It is a self contained fancy point and shoot camera is all it is. If you expect to shoot commercially with this good luck you need to learn more is what it sounds like.

So I guess the Leica M9 and the X100 are just point and shoots, too?

 

[backayonder]

I just paid $499 Aud for an Olympus XZ1 and $250 for the viewinder so this new Canon sounds like a bargain. Now if only it had a built in EVF.
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[Rockchan]

If we buy a zoom lens on m43 (e.g. x 14-42), we also don't need additional lens.

The EVF for m43 should be much better than the OVF on G series. The EVF is expensive but we can use it on future model when we upgrade.

Just wait inside two years this will be discontinued I am sure.

Two years is a long time in this business. However, everyone is entitled to an opinion and mine is that (barring some big flaw) this camera will sell almost as well as the G series and be around for a while.

One reason is that no additional lenses are needed; another is the OVF. The $800 MSR price will likely drop.

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Don
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[Rockchan]

It is even bigger than DMC-GX1 fitted with its tiny X 14-42mm.

Unless they have something new coming soon. I guess they are satisfied with their DSLR lines that don't have much competition.

I've been looking at the mirrorless offerings for quite some time. I really dont see any point in them. They aren't pocketable and not upto the quality level of DSLRs.

If you need to take "serious" pictures, then weight differece is immaterial, so take a DSLR. If on vacation and for occasional shots - P&S like this G1X is the best fit.

The trouble with other point and shoots, is that once you're used to DSLR quality level, its hard to accept their rubbish output.

 

[ChristianHass]

If we buy a zoom lens on m43 (e.g. x 14-42), we also don't need additional lens.

The m43 kit zoom lenses are slow. They're actually slower at the wide end than the Canon G1X lens and just a bit faster at the long end which the Canon makes up for with the larger sensor.

The EVF for m43 should be much better than the OVF on G series. The EVF is expensive but we can use it on future model when we upgrade.

Maybe, if you had bought the original EVF for Panasonic and you wanted to use it on the newest Pana GX1 (why do all companies have to use the same letters in the camera names? ) body then you'd be out of luck.
But I completely agree that the OVF on the G1X looks underwhelming.

It is even bigger than DMC-GX1 fitted with its tiny X 14-42mm.

If Canon had put a larger sensor with a faster lens in a smaller body I'd be really impressed. The G1X looks to be smaller than the Olympus E-PL3 with kit lens though.

But of course lens quality is a big joker here, no telling just yet if the Canon lens is any good.
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Shooting for fun and memories.

 

[manthasfamily]

+1
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Karen

If it pleases you then to hell what everyone else thinks!

 

[zoooming]

Here in Oz we have been used to paying "overs" on the price of camera gear for many years and it's only recently that things have adjusted in our favour with the strength of our dollar so a couple of hundred dollars either way is not going to bother me as long as the unit I'm after has the features I want.

However I still think too many posters want or expect over the top features for a bare minimum of price and when I read "ROTFL comments" about cameras that aren't even out yet it makes me wonder about some people.
But like you - that's only me.

Zoooming

Oh so you've been watching the telly have you? I might be willing to pay $500 for it, but $800? I'd rather carry a heavy brick with lenses then a brick with no expansion whatsoever. Then again that's just me.

Zoooming

At $800

ROTFL.
No way!

Karen

If it pleases you then to hell what everyone else thinks!

 

[jimr]

Just wait inside two years this will be discontinued I am sure.

Two years is a long time in this business. However, everyone is entitled to an opinion and mine is that (barring some big flaw) this camera will sell almost as well as the G series and be around for a while.

One reason is that no additional lenses are needed; another is the OVF. The $800 MSR price will likely drop.

"no additional lens needed" should read no additional lens is possible...

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Don
http://www.pbase.com/dond

 

[HB 101]

No way: $200 more than a Sony NEX5N with the kit lens?

Canon, are you kidding me?

The price should be around $500.

 

[Rehabdoc]

No way: $200 more than a Sony NEX5N with the kit lens?

Canon, are you kidding me?

The price should be around $500.

The price should he what the public is willing to pay for it, given there are plenty of other companies in a competitive industry. I'd be happy to lay a wager that this camera will sell very well at $800US even in this down economy. If its really overpriced, let's see how long it takes for Canon to have to drop the price.

 

[RedFox88]

If this camera cost $2000 it is still a p&s. How long have you been a photographer? How many DSLR's have you shot with?

Can you change the optical lens, No. You are not looking through the lens like an DSLR. It is a self contained fancy point and shoot camera is all it is. If you expect to shoot commercially with this good luck you need to learn more is what it sounds like.

Canon knows what they are doing. The vast majority of entry level dSLR and EVIL buyers stick with the kit lens and it never comes off the camera. So why make the lens removable? The DPR preview showed how a 4/3 EVIL camera comes generally with a 14-42 or 28-82mm lens that is f3.5-5.6 so The G1 X is faster and has more focal length.

For the same money an entry level DSLR or even a MFT's would still be better, but I am not counting your money. Price is way too high for what you are getting. I never said it is a bad camera keep that in mind.

You are coming off rather trollish. The G1 X sensor is 16% larger than 4:3 so it'll have better IQ. I just read about someone buying an entry level dSLR who wanted good photos in low light but didn't want a camera that was complex. This G1 X sounds ideal for that person and where there is one person there are lots more just like him or her. There are a lot of people who want good photos but don't want to bother with additional lenses. This G1 X might finally replace my a620 though I might wait until it comes down to $700 or so.

 

[ennemkay]

at $800 you can buy a m43 body and three lenses.

This is one I have to reserve final judgement until its reviewed and or field tested by someone here. At $800 you can buy a DSLR, a micro four thirds system. Does this mean Nikon has to answer with a a higher end p&s. $800 point and shoot cameras are so 10 years ago. By the time you buy the extras it will push $1,000 easy.

Just wait inside two years this will be discontinued I am sure. Maybe Canon is gearing up to buy Olympus with all of their issues maybe Canon needs cash on hand fast???

 

[ennemkay]

Canon knows what they are doing. The vast majority of entry level dSLR and EVIL buyers stick with the kit lens and it never comes off the camera.

not that i can verify one way or the other, but i would imagine this is merely a guess and you are not attempting to state a fact.

 

[photo perzon]

So Canon threw in a large sensor, excellent lens with zoom for half the price. It will sell like hotcakes.

This is one I have to reserve final judgement until its reviewed and or field tested by someone here. At $800 you can buy a DSLR, a micro four thirds system. Does this mean Nikon has to answer with a a higher end p&s. $800 point and shoot cameras are so 10 years ago. By the time you buy the extras it will push $1,000 easy.

Just wait inside two years this will be discontinued I am sure. Maybe Canon is gearing up to buy Olympus with all of their issues maybe Canon needs cash on hand fast???

 

[Extract0r]

Pansonic GF2 body for about $200.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004J2LMJ8/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1326262613&sr=8-3&condition=used

Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 lens for $305

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002IKLJVE/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326262742&sr=1-1&condition=used

Olympus 45mm f/1.8 lens for $307

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OLYMPUS-M-ZUIKO-Digital-ED-45mm-F1-8-MicroSingle-PEN-Lens-100-Genuine-/200684226418?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item2eb9b64772#ht_3849wt_1260

Total $812...
Canon G1X for $800 is a bit too much...

 

[IchiroCameraGuy]

Pansonic GF2 body for about $200.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004J2LMJ8/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1326262613&sr=8-3&condition=used

Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 lens for $305

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002IKLJVE/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326262742&sr=1-1&condition=used

Olympus 45mm f/1.8 lens for $307

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OLYMPUS-M-ZUIKO-Digital-ED-45mm-F1-8-MicroSingle-PEN-Lens-100-Genuine-/200684226418?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item2eb9b64772#ht_3849wt_1260

Total $812...
Canon G1X for $800 is a bit too much...

GF2 is not very good and also now you would need another pocket for the second lens and still no wide angle coverage

 

[Hamdan Abdullah]

I paid more than that for my Canon G1 (a 3.3Mp cam) more than 10 years ago and a bit more for the Pro1 (8Mp but no IS) a few years later. And I am happy with my G10. I think I will take a look at the G1X. If it is good, I will buy one.

Cheers,
Hamdan Abdullah
Canon G10, Canon 40D and Canon 600D/T3i

 

[gadgets]

at $800 you can buy a m43 body and three lenses.

Or you can buy eight $100 point and shoots.

But for my needs they are both equally useless, as the G1X still fits my needs better than an outdated m43 body and multiple single purpose lenses which I don't want in the first place. Hence the appeal of the G1X

 

[gadgets]

Pansonic GF2 body for about $200.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004J2LMJ8/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1326262613&sr=8-3&condition=used

Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 lens for $305

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002IKLJVE/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326262742&sr=1-1&condition=used

Olympus 45mm f/1.8 lens for $307

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OLYMPUS-M-ZUIKO-Digital-ED-45mm-F1-8-MicroSingle-PEN-Lens-100-Genuine-/200684226418?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item2eb9b64772#ht_3849wt_1260

Total $812...
Canon G1X for $800 is a bit too much...

Hello, those are USED items. And the people that buy the G1X don't want extra specialty purpose lenses to begin with..

These comparisons are missing the point, it's the features in the individual camera that matter, and what the compromises are, which of course will meet each person's needs differently.

 

[gadgets]

No way: $200 more than a Sony NEX5N with the kit lens?

Canon, are you kidding me?

The price should be around $500.

I really like the 5N but I just can't deal with the size of the 18-55 kit lens. I would rather just buy a Nikon D5100 instead. Or, if I buy only the Sony 16mm f2.8 then I have a nice tiny 24mm equiv camera to carry around but it is not stabilized and it is not a good general purpose lens.

A lot of posters are bashing the price and recommending other good solutions however they don't necessarily meet the needs of the buyers who will be attracted to the G1X.