Panasonic twin lens 3D camera

[Charlie Le Denn]

Acc. to Panasonic Netherlands a new camera will be available this winter.
Source (dutch): http://panasonic.nl/html/nl_NL/238859/No%20value%20assigned.html

4 x opt.zoom, 3D video AVCHD side by side, optical stabilizer, lens with folded opt. elements.
Any further news on this camera?
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Best regards, Herman
Twitter username: hermandijkhuis

 

[Mr.NoFlash]

i mean approximately which distance between the left lens and right lens ?

not exact, but roughly:

More about the eye distance (6cm ^=^ 2.5" ) or on the "look its a 3D toy" distance ( 1-2.5 cm ^=^ 0.3-1.0" ) ?

cheers

Mr.NoFlash

 

[Knallberto]

 

[3dreal]

If the flash is the same like in FX77/78, base must be 34mm. ideal for near-objects.
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from stereoforum.org-german only

http://www.stereoforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=3794&p=33319&hilit=panasonic#p33319

Ich tippe auf 34mm basis. Angenommen der blitz ist derselbe wie in der FX77/78.

body-Gehäuse: 66x117mm

 

[Knallberto]

May be ... but base isn't sooooo important.

 

[steve ohlhaber]

Base is extremely important. Its not just about having two lenses at any random spacing. Unless you want macro, you should not have a base smaller than normal human eye spacing.

 

[Knallberto]

Did you ever see 3D panorama pictures? Some people make them with TWO cameras with 2m - 3m base. For 7cm (man's eyes) 3D ends with 5m-10m distance. More is life experience.

THERE base is important!

There are animals, for them 3D seeing is 1000x more important (for their life) than for men - with base smaller than 1mm!

 

[Charlie Le Denn]

I miss the lens specs!
4 x opt zoom, okay
Fx-Fy?
x groups, y aspercal element(s)
x - y mm (equivalent 35mm)

Is the touch screen 2D or is 3D supported?
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Best regards, Herman
Twitter username: hermandijkhuis

 

[Robert Anderson]

Lenses are 25-100mm equivalent focal length.
More info here:

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/News/Latest+News/The+Panasonic+LUMIX+3D1+Camera/8308423/index.html#anker_8308425

 

[Robert Anderson]

Stereo base appears to be 30.2mm (about 1.19")

 

[Charlie Le Denn]

Thanks Robert for the link.
What's the F-range of lens? Or did I miss something.
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Best regards, Herman
Twitter username: hermandijkhuis

 

[Robert Anderson]

f/3.9-5.7
see the front of the camera here:

 

[3dreal]

Stereo base appears to be 30.2mm (about 1.19")

since i didnt know the body-dimensions i couldnt calculate it correctly:
i calculated now 76x108/278= 29.5mm



base/lensdistance image=bodysize/bodysize image

Its the ideal cam for near objects.

For every subject the right camera is needed.

Thats why i will couple three cams on a zbar where i can further change stereobase between second and third cam.

 

[3dreal]

http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/3D-in-Foto-Film-Lumix-3D1

It has no autostereo-screen!

 

[Robert Anderson]

According to Imaging resource:

"Full-res 35mm-equivalent focal lengths of the Panasonic 3D1 are 25-100mm for 2D mode, 30-120mm for 3D still imaging, and 27-108mm for 3D video capture, which is at 1080i (1,920 x 1,080 pixel) resolution."
Also they specifically say that the display is not 3D.

 

[3dreal]

According to Imaging resource:

"Full-res 35mm-equivalent focal lengths of the Panasonic 3D1 are 25-100mm for 2D mode, 30-120mm for 3D still imaging, and 27-108mm for 3D video capture, which is at 1080i (1,920 x 1,080 pixel) resolution."
Also they specifically say that the display is not 3D.

Check the photoscala-report.

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/compact/3d1/specifications.html

f = 4.5 - 18.0 mm (2D: 25 - 100 mm,
3D (16:9): 33 - 132 mm,
3D (4:3): 30 - 120 mm in 35mm

Cropping the 12mp 2d-images will result in resolution: 8mp

27-108mm for 3d-videos is impressive.

I like 30mm stereobase.

I am now waiting fuji to fill the gap to my 80mm-sdm-twins or their 77mm.
Can only get smaller-55mm- base using my a590is-twins vertically. very annoying.

 

[Charlie Le Denn]

I'm not sure yet. Maybe I will. Depends on price and availability.

What are the pro's/contra's of this camera in comparision to Fuji 3D W3 which is currently available in Holland at 180 euro. (in stock)
What's best choice, tell us, thanks.
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Best regards, Herman
Twitter username: hermandijkhuis

 

[Knallberto]

 

[Knallberto]

There are no advantages (to Pana 3D ... perhaps in future ... 2012? 2013? 2014?)

Fuji W3

3x zoom
great 3.5" lenticular (no glasses) display with > 1.220.000 pixels
2x 1280x720 video (no side-by-side!)
unbeatable price! € 169 ! - including 20% VAT !
2x 10 mpixels
base = 7cm

http://geizhals.at/eu/562577

 

[Robert Anderson]

I like 30mm stereobase.

I am now waiting fuji to fill the gap to my 80mm-sdm-twins or their 77mm.
Can only get smaller-55mm- base using my a590is-twins vertically. very annoying.

30mm will be fine for close subjects. I have 125mm or 75mm with my G7 rig. My 3D phone is about 25mm. My GoPro hero rig is somewhere in between. My Sony camcorder has small interaxial but does not shoot stills.

I think this will be a great pocketable camera to shoot video and stills with good zoom range and high frame rate. I have already pre-ordered one.